Unseen Liverpool

[John(Zappa)]

I hope everyone has enjoyed seeing pic's from my collection over the last few weeks. Am sure sirob will keep up the entertainment best wishes

Brilliant they are absolutely brilliant.
Can't wait to see more.
Thanx again for posting such rare pics,they are well appreciated

[merseywail]

Thanks, but i have had to post my last. I never would have thought there would have been that much interest in them.

[Kev]

Thanks, but i have had to post my last. I never would have thought there would have been that much interest in them.

Fab pics merseywail. I would say, 'keep 'em coming', if you can acknowledge the source. If not then just put 'source unknown'.

Kev

[PhilipG]

Fab pics merseywail. I would say, 'keep 'em coming', if you can acknowledge the source. If not then just put 'source unknown'.
Kev

Not a good idea, Kev.
If you know who the photo belongs to, get permission.
If you don't know who to ask, then don't use it.

[Cadfael]

Not a good idea, Kev.
If you know who the photo belongs to, get permission.
If you don't know who to ask, then don't use it.

I disagree Phil. If we all did that, then half of the photo's around the world would never see the light of day. Perhaps adding a 'Source Unknown' and then additional information (or Kev, have something for the whole site).

I have done this on many a photo on various websites and use the following:

"Except where an author or owner is named or an item is in the public domain or its provenance has been impossible to ascertain, this web site and material contained in this web site are copyright of.......

Written permission from ...... must be obtained prior to public use or public redistribution of material from this site or of any material which is copyright.
All rights reserved."

It basically means that if you cannot find the original source of the photo, you are displaying it until the original owner comes along and asks for credit or removal of the picture.

[Kev]

Fair enough Phil, I just want the pics to continue but if its gonna be dodgy then I suppose I could get into trouble

[PhilipG]

I disagree Phil. If we all did that, then half of the photo's around the world would never see the light of day. Perhaps adding a 'Source Unknown' and then additional information (or Kev, have something for the whole site).

I have done this on many a photo on various websites and use the following:

"Except where an author or owner is named or an item is in the public domain or its provenance has been impossible to ascertain, this web site and material contained in this web site are copyright of.......

Written permission from ...... must be obtained prior to public use or public redistribution of material from this site or of any material which is copyright.
All rights reserved."

It basically means that if you cannot find the original source of the photo, you are displaying it until the original owner comes along and asks for credit or removal of the picture.

You're entitled to disagree, but I don't want Kev to get sued.

I repeat.
Ask permission if you know who owns the photo.
If you don't know who owns it, don't use it, because somebody will own the copyright.

Otherwise, it's theft.
I know I've made at least one person not like me by stating this before.
But if something isn't yours you can't give it to somebody else.

Even if it's a fabulous photo.
If it's on the net post a link to it.

[Cadfael]

You're entitled to disagree, but I don't want Kev to get sued.

I repeat.
Ask permission if you know who owns the photo.
If you don't know who owns it, don't use it, because somebody will own the copyright.

Otherwise, it's theft.
I know I've made at least one person not like me by stating this before.
But if something isn't yours you can't give it to somebody else.

Even if it's a fabulous photo.
If it's on the net post a link to it.

Kev isn't going to get sued at all Phil. I cannot imagine anyone bringing a copyright case to a forum owner, if that was the case then all forum's around the world would shut down!

It's a very grey subject of which I have taken legal advice on myself (for the same situation). I have been told that as long as I display a legal notice (see above) then I am asking the copyright holder to either inform me not to show the picture or to ask for credit. It's as simple as that and I will take the word over a paid solicitor over yourself.

[PhilipG]

Fair enough Phil, I just want the pics to continue but if its gonna be dodgy then I suppose I could get into trouble

Yes, I know, Kev.
It's very tempting.
Sirob has given permission, obviously, because they're his photos.
Your site is great for photos, but you don't want to get a bad rep.
I know SD & I had our differences, but he & I agree on this.

[PhilipG]

Kev isn't going to get sued at all Phil. I cannot imagine anyone bringing a copyright case to a forum owner, if that was the case then all forum's around the world would shut down!

It's a very grey subject of which I have taken legal advice on myself (for the same situation). I have been told that as long as I display a legal notice (see above) then I am asking the copyright holder to either inform me not to show the picture or to ask for credit. It's as simple as that and I will take the word over a paid solicitor over yourself.

Jona, let Kev decide what to do.

And don't drag this discussion on any more.
PLEASE!

[Kev]

Eh u 2, cheers for the advice! I'll consider all points raised.

I love this forum!

[John(Zappa)]

Thanks, but i have had to post my last. I never would have thought there would have been that much interest in them.

Why stop???
Just put me as the owner,I don't care.
My thoughts are this..If they're on the net and can be copied then go for it.
The copyright laws I agree with but when its available for copying/showing then there should be no problem.
Plus if you say its from an unknown source then you'll have no problem.
Keep em coming.

[John(Zappa)]

Not a good idea, Kev.
If you know who the photo belongs to, get permission.
If you don't know who to ask, then don't use it.

If we took that attitude Phil then most people would never get to see history in pictures.
Sod that,if you got a picture that is of interest then show it.

[Sirob]

Well, what an eventful day!
Glad that someone remembers the Hall Road tap. Hope that Merseywail is not going, I did not think that some of his pics existed of places!
The copyright issue is interesting, with a very rare exception, I am the copyright holder of what you see.

Some industrial firms had their own railway shunting locomotives, not usually able to be photographed, here are a few;

L. Rifkins scrapyard at Kirkdale, July 1976
Reads at Aintree, September 1976
Cadbury's at Moreton, September 1976
No. 3, Kirkby Trading Estate, January 1973
Monty, Cronton Colliery, Cronton, May 1972

[sheilsy]

I think this discussion has been well covered in the past , particularly between myself and Phil G...... so im saying nuthin although I am pleased sirob retrieved the slides from the bonfire in city road back in the sixties otherwise we would not be viewing some of these fine pics (lets hope the original owners of the slides dont find the pictures and decide to sue for breach of copyright!!... just joking Phil)

No I tell a lie...... please keep your pics coming Sirob, absolutely loving them. , and thanks Merseywall and everyone else who has shared their pics on this fine thread.