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    Default The extent of water space removal

    The Liverpool Waters scheme, showing the extent of the waterspace filling. It is extensive and done gradually so most don't notice. The lost water acreage is highly significant. The latest land by stealth move is to hide the filling of West Waterloo Dock in a grand pie-in-the-sky scheme. There is an abundance of land on the other side of the Dock Rd which can merge with any grand proposal. The land contains small ramshackle companies - an area that should have been cleared decades ago.

    Few of those glass block renders will be built in the Liverpool Waters scheme and the final result will not resemble that over-exaggerated proposal in any way. We will find that few will live around the quays and most given up to corporates to make money from - with the odd char-banc park on an in-filed historic dock. Don't be fooled

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    Below, the Liverpool Waters proposal:
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    This is one I took in 1966 when it was used for the Irish & IoM boats,cargo
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    Crackin' pic again GD.

    Here's one from NancyO's flickr set, taken in 1984.

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    We even had the Winston Churchill visiting us in 1966
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    Gregs Dad, what dock is that?
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    I presume it`s part of the Princes as the picture was taken the same time as the Irish boats pic, failing that I`d go for East or West Waterloo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    And looking the other way
    A part of the UNESCO World Heritage Site agreement was the protection of unique dock marine life.

    The essential and unique marine life pumped from bilge tanks from all over the world, has been deliberately killed at West Waterloo, Princes and Princes Half-Tide Docks. This marine life keeps the water clean.
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    Next thing you know they will want to fill the Mersey in

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco View Post
    Next thing you know they will want to fill the Mersey in
    Actually, filling the Great Burbo Bank to create a new port would not be a half bad idea. They would first have to change the Crosby Channel Revetment into sea-walls, that would not be unduly difficult.

    Unlike filling historic docks which is a terrible idea.

    The powers that be should say
    "We love your plan - Liverpool Waters!
    Now please go away and redraught it in a way that preserves the area and depth and quaysides of the Historic Docks so we can give it official approval".

    Ticky-tacky houseboats in Prince's Dock, grrrr. It should be restricted to vessels that are either seaworthy or historic (50+ years old).

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    The Princes Dock canal link work yesterday,Sunday,hence no work going on.
    I`m sure the people overlooking the area would rather have a full dock of
    water to look at than a narrow ribbon of water like a canal
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    The Princes Dock canal link work yesterday,Sunday,hence no work going on.
    I`m sure the people overlooking the area would rather have a full dock of
    water to look at than a narrow ribbon of water like a canal
    It supposed to be all filled with water.
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    Old capstan on the quayside of the PRINCES half tide dock. I wander how many sailing ships this has hauled through the dock
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    Gregs dad is is Princes Dock and Princes Half-Tide Dock - not Queens
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    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
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    how it once was?


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    Is there anyway we can get them to not fill in the docks and actally redevelop the area instead of destrying the city's heritage. I'm not against tall buildings, i'm not against getting rid of shanty town industrail estates. I am against a world heritage site being destroyed.


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