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    Does anybody know what the oldest photograph of Liverpool is?

    I guess it would be hard to determine, but I was wondering if anybody has any inklings?


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    What a great idea for a thread

    This one of the Florrie is from 1890.
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    That's a brilliant photo.

    I wonder if anybody will be able to find an older photo?

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    i've got this one, it's listed as princes boulevard, don't know whereabouts in liverpool that is but it looks a lot like princes avenue in toxteth, no idea of the age
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    This is from 1858. Georges Dock gate.
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    Old Lime street with the Horse drawn Trams circa 1890s.
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    The 'photograph of Joseph Williamson is considered by some to be a fake when taken in 1840. If it was real, it would probably have been one of the earliest ever pictures taken.

    http://www.williamsontunnels.com/story/port2.htm

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    I don't have anything older than 1890, before that date they are all illustrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris48 View Post
    This is from 1858. Georges Dock gate.
    Thanks, Chris. The dawn of the age of photography was in the 1840's so if there is such an early photograph of a Liverpool city scene, the earliest possible photograph would have to date from then.

    William Henry Fox Talbot (1800-1877) is viewed by many as the "Father of Modern Photography" because of his invention of the positive/negative process in 1840. See the BBC Open University page on "History of Photography."

    My inclination though is to think that the earliest photographs of the city were taken in the 1850's such as the one you have posted, though there were undoubtedly studio photographs of Liverpudlians in the 1840's. The Liverpool Photographic Society was founded in 1853 with well-known professional photographer Francis Frith as one its founding members.

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    http://www.tramway.co.uk/smx/postcar...ords=liverpool

    Some very old photos of liverpool on here
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    Here is another. Lord Street circa 1865. Note the Top hats.
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    The attachment is from 1860 and is supposed to be the earliest image of Liverpool, produced on stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    http://www.tramway.co.uk/smx/postcar...ords=liverpool

    Some very old photos of liverpool on here

    Thanks, gregs dad.

    The earliest pictorial postcards date from around 1890-1900 first with the undivided back postcard, then the divided back postcard, with address to right and area for writing to left as we know it today. So some 40-50 years after the earliest Liverpool photograph we are looking for.

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    Nah too late. Electric trams - after 1898.

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    My archive catalog must have some errors in it.
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    Salthouse Dock 1880:
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    Going down......

    1871, Georges Dock Basin
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    Brilliant detective work guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    The attachment is from 1860 and is supposed to be the earliest image of Liverpool, produced on stone.
    Hi Kev

    This might be the earliest photograph of a downtown city street scene but is not older than the 1858 photograph of St. George's Dock Gate that Chris48 posted, if the date of that is correct. Possibly the earliest Liverpool photographs were of industrial scenes such as the docks or of individual buildings such as St. George's Hall.

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    The world's oldest photo was taken in France in 1825 here...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1885093.stm

    The first streetscape was in Paris:


    Taken in 1838 of a busy street. The traffic in the street was too quick to appear in the photo because of the 10-minute exposure. One man who was standing at the street corner getting his shoes polished and therefore became the first man in the street picture (name unknown).

    Liverpool must have one or two piccies around the 1830s.
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    There's one here of the Old Custom house but I don't know the date of it.
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    I've got The Strangers Guide to Liverpool for 1843.
    No photos in it of course, but there is a mention of photography.
    Funnily enough, with all the books I've got of Liverpool, I've never noticed any really old photographs, and I'll be willing to bet that the 1858 view (assuming the date is correct) is about the earliest of Liverpool.
    I've had a quick look through my books and there's not much before 1890, which was the time when pictorial postcards first became really popular, thus creating a demand for photos.

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    There's a photie dated 1857 on Geds site....Vernon Street

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    Here is an old one complete with date, I don't know where it came from ,maybe an old magazine?
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    I think until anything further, this one has been confirmed as such.

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sho...h-of-Liverpool


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