Are the Irish getting remembered?

[Waterways]

waterways i am a scouser i live in north wales but i have never heard that one before.

I was in the Valleys and that is what they referred to the north as.

[pasha]

maybe they mean rhyl? that way. saying that the north think the south is more english

[Mark R]

I know some of the area along the coast (towyn etc) is referred to as 'Little Liverpool'

[Waterways]

maybe they mean rhyl? that way. saying that the north think the south is more english

Or Welsh Cockneys.

[Libertarian]

The Irish is a minor part in fact, after others. The famine and city's role in it should be remembered, however an Irish festival? Nah. I know of no strong Irishness in our culture. I have never been the Irish Centre and the only lasting influence from Ireland we don't really need - the Orange and the Green, which is dying and has always been confined to working class areas anyway.

If we should celebrate a tenuous Irish connection, then we should also have one for the Welsh, Scandinavian, blacks and Orientals too.

In short, celebrate being Liverpudlians, the port for America, and a real melting pot that resisted strong external cultural influences, developing its own.

There is a festival for 'orientals' the chinese new year, The Black community has the Carribean carnival and the Scandinavians have LFC! Ha ha

But seriously why shouldn't there be an Irish festival? No one is saying that the Irish are the predominant ethnic background of all Scousers but there is every reason to celebrate Irish culture and remember the tragic elelments of it. Afterall there is a slavery museum at the Albert Dock, I would like to see a museum on Scotland road about Irish history.

[Gnomie]

[QUOTE=Waterways;107120]T I have never been the Irish Centre and the only lasting influence from Ireland we don't really need - the Orange and the Green, which is dying and has always been confined to working class areas anyway.

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Confined to the working class areas. many of us are working class not snobs.

[Libertarian]

[QUOTE=Gnomie;107148]

T I have never been the Irish Centre and the only lasting influence from Ireland we don't really need - the Orange and the Green, which is dying and has always been confined to working class areas anyway.

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Confined to the working class areas. many of us are working class not snobs.

I agree. You can also be Irish middle class and successful Waterways...as many people over there and here are. Furthermore a celebration of Irishness means celebrating the best of Ireland not the terrorists,extremists or sectarians.

[Libertarian]

Wouldn't it be brilliant if there was a museum of Irish history on the site where the best way is. Imagine a stunning piece of architecture there as you drove into the city with a park.

[Steven]

Libertarian has made statements which are to be applauded

[Libertarian]

Libertarian has made statements which are to be applauded

Thank you Steven I really do hope we can now call a truce! I respect your posts and you seem like a nice person, I am not a nasty person just opionated.

[molly]

The Irish is a minor part in fact, after others. The famine and city's role in it should be remembered, however an Irish festival? Nah. I know of no strong Irishness in our culture. I have never been the Irish Centre and the only lasting influence from Ireland we don't really need - the Orange and the Green, which is dying and has always been confined to working class areas anyway.

If we should celebrate a tenuous Irish connection, then we should also have one for the Welsh, Scandinavian, blacks and Orientals too.

In short, celebrate being Liverpudlians, the port for America, and a real melting pot that resisted strong external cultural influences, developing its own.

As and Irish person The Orange and the Green will never go away but they can learn to live in peace.

As for it being confined to Working Class Areas thats just rubbish. I find that very offensive.

[Libertarian]

of course any museum of Irish culture should not merely be confined to irish catholics although we did play a major part in developing the national consciousness. Irish Protestants played a massive role in Liverpool and America, and still do. The dissenting tradition is a massive force for good in Liverpool and any mueum could recognise and hope to heal the sectarianism in the past in this city and its links to the troubles in the recent past in ireland.

[kevin]

I reckom we're all just mongrels.
Having always known that my family, on my father's side, where from Greystones (just outside Bray) I consider my heritage to be Irish. I was shocked to learn, a few years ago, that my family moved from Yorkshire to Ireland in the 1700's (no idea why). I've always thought of myself as a Lancashire lad, as that is where Liverpool was when I was born.
I now know I'm originally a Yorkie - oh the shame of it!

[Squirrel]

There is a festival for 'orientals' the chinese new year, The Black community has the Carribean carnival and the Scandinavians have LFC! Ha ha

But seriously why shouldn't there be an Irish festival? No one is saying that the Irish are the predominant ethnic background of all Scousers but there is every reason to celebrate Irish culture and remember the tragic elelments of it. Afterall there is a slavery museum at the Albert Dock, I would like to see a museum on Scotland road about Irish history.

There is an Irish festival, and it happens every year, not just 2008.

http://www.liverpoolirishfestival.com/

[Howie]

And the Institute of Irish Studies at the University of Liverpool.