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    Not a school as such but it was an educational establishment.


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    Royal Liverpool Seamen's Orphan Institution

    A group of leading shipowners, concerned about the lack of provision for orphaned children of seamen, invited members of the Liverpool public to attend a meeting at the Mercantile Marine Services Association Rooms on 16 December 1868.

    In August 1869 the Liverpool Seamen's Orphan Institution opened in temporary accommodation in Duke Street. By the end of 1869 sixty children were already in residence.

    In 1870 Liverpool Town Council approved a resolution to give land at Newsham Park to the committee to construct a permanent building for the Institution and in January 1874 the children were transferred from the Duke Street premises to Newsham Park with an additional forty-six newcomers. The Institution also looked after children on an outdoor relief basis. In the Annual Report of 1899 it is recorded that 321 children attended the orphanage and 508 received outdoor relief.

    The Institution was formally opened on the 30 September 1874 by the Duke of Edinburgh - the "Sailor Prince" - fourth son of Queen Victoria, and in May 1886 Queen Victoria herself visited the Orphanage, adding her name to the list of patrons. At the outbreak of the Second World War, the Orphanage was evacuated to Hill Bank, Wirral. After the War preparations were made for the return to Newsham Park, but the Committee members were becoming concerned over the possible effects of the great expansion of the country's social services. These services lead to gradual decline of children living at the Orphanage. In addition new legislation prevented children under 11 years old from being educated at the same school as older children and made it illegal for young children to live at a school of an institutional nature. Although the Orphanage was therefore closed on the 27 July 1949 it continued to provide for the relief and education of orphaned children and in 1969 celebrated its centenary.

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    Minute books and indexes, 1869 - 1969.
    Annual Reports, 1869 - 1997.
    Registers of Children, 1768 - 1948.*
    Bound volumes: account books, letter books, visitor's book (Royal Visit), school register,
    1869 - 1974.
    Letters and papers, re Orphanage Committee and staff, 1873 - 1916.
    Personal Case Paper, c.1870 - 1949.*

    D/SO 1869 - 1988 102 Boxes

    Written permission is required from the Royal Liverpool Seamen's Orphan Institution to view any material, re the Registers of Children and Personal Case Papers. Write to:

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    3a Ground Floor
    Tower Building
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    Liverpool
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    The Maritime Archives & Library holds further material related to the Royal Liverpool Seamen's Orphan Institution in miscellaneous collections. Please see Guide to the Records of the Merseyside Maritime Museum, Vol. 2, pp. 87-88, for relevant reference.
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    Here's a couple of Seamen's Orphan Institution pics from 1895:
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    Myrtle Street Boys Orphan Asylum. Discussion is welcome, I don't have the foggiest about these establishments:
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    Wow thanks for those Kev, allways wondered what it looked like inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone_pilot View Post
    Wow thanks for those Kev, allways wondered what it looked like inside.
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    There's a street called Orphan Street near the one in L7 by that was developed around the beginning of the 20th century. The asylums were for children with learning disabilities in Victorian times, I doubt they were given much of a chance to develop in life.

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    Here is a picture (from Mike Roydens website) of the old workhouse that is now a private residence in Cronton. It is called Bears Paw Cottage.
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    Here's another Seamen's Orphan Institution pic:
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    Sefton General and Fazakerley Hospitals:
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    Princes Road Deaf and Dumb Institute:
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    great pics kev, i like the one where they are all out on the front porch

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    Was told that Cardinal Heenan used to be a workhouse and having been inside the older clasrooms which had washrooms with sinks and toilets at the end of each classroom. Apparently they were dormatories. Shame the school is getting demolished because if it was a workhouse, it must be one of the last of its kind, defo afround here anyway.

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    St Cathrines Hospital in Tranmere was a former workhouse...the iconic building, very much a part of the Tranmere skyline, also included the Birkenhead Institution which was for those with mental disabilities.

    Now, St Cathrines in its present form faces an uncertain future with plans by Wirral NHS to demolish the building and replace it with a "super hospital". Locals are wondering why considering Arrowe Park (nr Woodchurch) handles the bulk of all medical needs in Wirral.
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    Oh how lovely.... do you recognise me in the Sefton General picture

    Love that one and the ones of Fazakerley....as I have worked at both places

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    Personal Health Services

    During the 18th century it became noticeable that provision of care for the sick was inadequate. Several hospitals were opened as a result, including a public infirmary, opened on Shaws Brow in 1746. Over the years this infirmary expanded until a new infirmary was built in 1792. Other hospitals were established to meet the needs of the rapidly growing city. During the 19th century three general hospitals, four dispensaries, and about twenty other hospitals for special diseases had been established. By the end of the century the Corporation had opened six city hospitals.

    The Corporation became involved in the provision of personal health services with the appointment of two health visitors in 1897. The Notification of Births Act in 1907 ensured that the Medical Officer of Health was notified of all births. A School Medical Service was set up under the Education Act of the same year. The Corporation became more and more involved in personal health services throughout Liverpool becoming responsible for municipal hospitals, maternity and child welfare and programmes of inoculation and vaccination.

    In 1930 the Health Committee set up a large number of general and specialist hospitals and institutions. Money was spent on modernising and improving the various hospitals and institutions until the establishment of the National Health Service in 1948. Hospital management was provided by the Liverpool Regional Hospital Board. Local authorities were now providing other services including health centres, specialist care for young mothers and children, midwifery, health visitors, home nursing, vaccination and immunisation programmes and the ambulance service.

    Source: LRO

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    1) Blind School Hardman Street Hope Street 1929

    2) Childrens Infirmary Mulberry Street 1906

    3) Childrens Infirmary Myrtle Street 1907

    4) David Lewis Northern Hospital Great Howard Street 1906

    5) Eye Ear Infirmary Myrtle Road 1906

    6) Kirkdale Nursing Home Westminster Road 1929

    7) Royal Southern Hospital 1906

    8) Sailors Home Canning Place 1906

    9) Sailors Home Canning Place 1948

    10) Seamans Orphanage 1906
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    Great pics

    Does anyone know if any photos or info are about concerning the Childrens hospital that once stood in Heswall? I was there as a child.
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    spent many hours in the Childrens Infirmary Myrtle Street as a kid...Miss accident prone. would love to see some old pics of the inside, not sure if the LRO have pics of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Personal Health Services

    During the 18th century it became noticeable that provision of care for the sick was inadequate. Several hospitals were opened as a result, including a public infirmary, opened on Shaws Brow in 1746. Over the years this infirmary expanded until a new infirmary was built in 1792. Other hospitals were established to meet the needs of the rapidly growing city. During the 19th century three general hospitals, four dispensaries, and about twenty other hospitals for special diseases had been established. By the end of the century the Corporation had opened six city hospitals.

    The Corporation became involved in the provision of personal health services with the appointment of two health visitors in 1897. The Notification of Births Act in 1907 ensured that the Medical Officer of Health was notified of all births. A School Medical Service was set up under the Education Act of the same year. The Corporation became more and more involved in personal health services throughout Liverpool becoming responsible for municipal hospitals, maternity and child welfare and programmes of inoculation and vaccination.

    In 1930 the Health Committee set up a large number of general and specialist hospitals and institutions. Money was spent on modernising and improving the various hospitals and institutions until the establishment of the National Health Service in 1948. Hospital management was provided by the Liverpool Regional Hospital Board. Local authorities were now providing other services including health centres, specialist care for young mothers and children, midwifery, health visitors, home nursing, vaccination and immunisation programmes and the ambulance service.

    Source: LRO

    Images courtesy LRO.

    1) Blind School Hardman Street Hope Street 1929

    2) Childrens Infirmary Mulberry Street 1906

    3) Childrens Infirmary Myrtle Street 1907

    4) David Lewis Northern Hospital Great Howard Street 1906

    5) Eye Ear Infirmary Myrtle Road 1906

    6) Kirkdale Nursing Home Westminster Road 1929

    7) Royal Southern Hospital 1906

    8) Sailors Home Canning Place 1906

    9) Sailors Home Canning Place 1948

    10) Seamans Orphanage 1906
    Hello Kev - that picture of the Kirkdale Homes is the one I've been hoping
    to see! As it dates to 1929 it is as I remember it because a) I lived opposite
    in the road going off it to the left, Rumney Road and b) I worked there in
    1936/7 my first job in the Corpy.Although they called it a Nursing Home it
    really was a Workhouse and it was a rather gruelling experience at times
    for a young lad of 17. I have been shocked to find it no longer exists as well as a lot of property around it, including Hogarth Road, where I was born. When I last visited a few years ago I was just in time to see them knocking
    down Rumney Road! It gave me a bit of a turn to see the upper part of our house completely exposed to the elements!! I would not recognise any of it
    now unless I walked further down till I got to the Rec.
    Thanks again for the photo Stan H

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    Good pics Kev. So sad to see all those kids names on the headstones. So young,so sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Great pics

    Does anyone know if any photos or info are about concerning the Childrens hospital that once stood in Heswall? I was there as a child.
    I did my paediatric nursing rotation there back in '77...I will have a look and see if I have any photo's of the place..it was a grand hospital..we used to wheel the beds out so the little ones could get some air ..most of them were bed bound due to being in plaster castes as a result of having scoliosis.....

    Lovely picture of the Northern....if I look closely I can even see my room in the nurses home....

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    Very sad those gravestone names.. So young to have a life in a hossie or orphanage.. and not even become a teen before you die.. Very sad indeed..

    Ta for sharing.. Makes one look at how much we have, and appreciate it more..

    I do so thank, whoever kept their names alive on a stone of remembrance. One can only hope , they knew they were loved.. and they would never be forgotten in history...

    And to all the nurses, and doctors.. bless you for your unselfish work..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    I did my paediatric nursing rotation there back in '77...I will have a look and see if I have any photo's of the place..it was a grand hospital..we used to wheel the beds out so the little ones could get some air ..most of them were bed bound due to being in plaster castes as a result of having scoliosis.....

    Lovely picture of the Northern....if I look closely I can even see my room in the nurses home....

    There is a dvd with this on showing the boys and girls in their hospital beds on a balcony in the open air, banging toy drums etc and showing malnutritious kids entering hospital and then them looking fine after care. It's part of a dvd on Liverpool in general and I think it shows the lumiere bros 1800s film at the beginning (on the overhead and at Lime st) and shows the 1907 - 700 year birthday of liverpool celebrations/floats etc.
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    Oh how wonderful..I must try and get a copy of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    I did my paediatric nursing rotation there back in '77...I will have a look and see if I have any photo's of the place..it was a grand hospital..we used to wheel the beds out so the little ones could get some air ..most of them were bed bound due to being in plaster castes as a result of having scoliosis.....

    Lovely picture of the Northern....if I look closely I can even see my room in the nurses home....
    Hi Maggie! I would be interested to know if you worked there at the same time as Matron Olive Howell? who was previously matron of the Liverpool Radium Institute when I was there prior to 1963. I remember visiting Matron Howell at Heswall just before I left for NZ Sept 63. Cheers

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    Hi 18stanley,
    thought you might like to see a couple more pic's of the Kirkdale homes,as you used to work there! I lived in Rumney rd myself,(no'28)and used the homes as a fantastic playground,chased out by a mr.Connolly,occasionally
    (photo's courtesy of L.R.O.)

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    Hello wsteve55 - many thanks for the photos. I walked up and down
    that long drive up to the main entrance many times. B&W doesn't do it justice;
    the borders were full of flowers all the summer and the rest of the grounds
    were always green and well kept.Before going further with my side of the story
    could you tell me when you lived in Rumney Road. My family arrived there in
    1934/5 and eventually movedi after the War to Huyton.We were at number 40,
    not all that far away. We were near the end of the Road and I had the horrible
    experience of going to look at it one day only to see it being knocked down by
    a huge bulldozer! Did they demolish the whole of the Road or only our part of it? The modern map of the area shows wholesale changes - Leven Street seems
    to have disappeared from our end and Medlock Street from the other!!
    I'll leave it there for the moment but would be very pleased to hear
    a bit more of your side of the saga.Thanks again for coming back with those
    photos. All best wishes Stan H

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    Hi 18stanley,
    glad you liked the pic's! I only lived in Rumney rd for a relatively short time from '60 to '65,and was only a kid at the time,but I do remember some names such as the Cleary's, Corness's,Lloyds, Cavadino's, and maybe you remember "Muriel's" corner shop.and also "lily's" just opposite,in Leven st? Rumney rd. as was,is now gone,though the "Medlock" pub is still there, the Kirkdale homes was demolished, and replaced with a smaller home,"Cavendish" house,which I remember being built,but now this is closed,and due for demolition!(If there's one thing that makes you feel old, it's seeing buildings go up,then come down!!!) Leven st. no longer exists, but the "Rec" is still there,as a park,with the original houses alongside,which begs the question, why did they knock the others down,if these are still habitable? Theres a community website for Kirkdale,(just type in Kirkdale,it's easy to find)with not a lot going on,but, with some good photo's of the areas we've mentioned, from the 50's/60's.(I've included a couple of these, so thanks to Kirkdale community centre.)

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