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    Thumbs up Old Swan and surrounding area's

    Hi all, does anyone have any "OLD" Old Swan photo's / Video footage from bygone days. I have some video from the 50's from a Tram Video, which by the way shows other areas too, Broadway, Dovecote, Page Moss, Everton etc ... I have the link for a part of the video on Youtube, which goes from Fairfield to Dovecote ( Prescot Road )...
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    Hey i like those

    Amazing how much still looks the same

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    Thanks for that trip back in time.I often went on the No 10 tram,I left the Swan in 1961 when we had the Regent and the Curzon to go to,passing through now it just seems smaller than I remember it.
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    I liked watching that, anyone remember the old tram shed that stood on the site of the Netto at the corner of Green Lane and Prescot Roads. There was an old tram in there till the mid to late 80s that could be seen from the top deck of a bus.

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    You get a brief glimpse of it on the left hand side of the road, 8 seconds into the video. Martin

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    Here's an old pic of Old Swan taxi's

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    Great pic John, where is it in Old Swan, I'm intrigued

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    Mart. Don't know if you've ever tried this LRO on line catalogue facility but if you click on next record, more come up and so on. Type whatever you're looking for into the search box, if it's not there, try a new search etc...

    http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dser...39;)&dsqPos=26



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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    Great pic John, where is it in Old Swan, I'm intrigued
    Cheers Mart
    The address does not appear in directories until 1909 & then as Lewis & Co "drysalters"
    It is first shown as a garage as a garage in 1912
    The address is 389 Prescot.
    It was listed as the "Premier Garage"

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    http://www.pearsonsofliverpool.co.uk...war/4532001060

    PIcture outside Knotty Ash Brewery top left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    Great pic John, where is it in Old Swan, I'm intrigued
    If you came out of Green Lane and turned right towards town, Premier Garage was on the first block on the right, just before the cinema. When I was a kid in Tuebrook, my Aunt had no electricity, she took her radio accumulator (battery) there to be charged every week.
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    The premier cinema becoming the premier pub in the 80s/90s. Lots of premiers about on that block
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    Two from Liverpool Record Office? site.

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    Hoult's Corner, Old Swan.


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    Prescot Road, towards Knotty Ash.
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    I have a book by Colin Gould called 'A Pictorial History Of Old Swan and Tuebrook',published by Orge Books 120 Picton Rd.Don't know if you can still buy it but it's very good.

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    Cadfael, great pic, thanks.
    The other pics are very interesting too,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    I have a book by Colin Gould called 'A Pictorial History Of Old Swan and Tuebrook',published by Orge Books 120 Picton Rd.Don't know if you can still buy it but it's very good.
    Got that too Gnasher.
    also got St Oswalds - 150 years of a Parish ( 1992 ), mainly about the church and school history and West Derby, Old Swan and Wavertree by James Hoult, which is a great history book of the area's from 1913.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Mart. Don't know if you've ever tried this LRO on line catalogue facility but if you click on next record, more come up and so on. Type whatever you're looking for into the search box, if it's not there, try a new search etc...

    http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dser...39;)&dsqPos=26

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    Anonymouse, thanks for those, haven't seen the second one before.

    Am I right in thinking the second one was taken somewhere near where Sainsbury's is now, looking towards Dovecote ?
    But then the road doeasn't look that wide, unless they "moved" the fencing on Springfield Park, over to the left more ! to create another side of the central reservation..... It just doesn't seem right !

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    Mart, those are the houses just past the Wheatsheaf looking down to the Knotty Ash Tandoori. The old East Prescot Road used to follow this route

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    Spot on Mart, this was Prescot Road before it became a dual carriageway and was renamed East Prescot Road. The other half went the other side of the 'Turk's Head' (where Wynsors is now) and the Village Hall.
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    Thanks for this info, Mart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    If you came out of Green Lane and turned right towards town, Premier Garage was on the first block on the right, just before the cinema. When I was a kid in Tuebrook, my Aunt had no electricity, she took her radio accumulator (battery) there to be charged every week.
    Is it where I have circled on this pic ?

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    My memories are from 65 years ago and I can't be sure. I would say that it was before the cinema which in the 40's was a different building to the one in the pic. It was known as the New Premier, last time I was in Liverpool about 3 years ago the building was still there and you could see where the name had been painted on it.
    The Premier Garage was a narrow alley entrance that widened out at the back of the building.
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    My mother is from Old Swan. Baden Road. I was christened at St. Oswald's. I suppose my mother's family's local church although I was born and grew up in Micawber Street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    Got that too Gnasher.
    also got St Oswalds - 150 years of a Parish ( 1992 ), mainly about the church and school history and West Derby, Old Swan and Wavertree by James Hoult, which is a great history book of the area's from 1913.
    Have you got the 1906 map from Alan Godfrey Maps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNASHER View Post
    Have you got the 1906 map from Alan Godfrey Maps?
    Wouldn't be seen without it

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    Finally went to the LRO yesterday morning, looking for Old Swan and surrounding areas, pics for a website I am doing
    Anyway, got 25 to add to the site but a few have me a bit puzzled. The photo's I got copies of have very basic info on them e.g. Prescot Rd Knotty Ash 1921.
    I can't seem to recognise where they may be so thought I'd put a few on here, to see if any of the people on here can recognise anything....
    Anyway, here we go:
    First one said Prescot Rd - Knotty Ash Terminus 1921.... can't work out which way this is looking on Prescot Rd. I know it was widened early in the 1900's. Mart
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    Prescot Rd - Oct 11th 1922....
    Well this could be anywhere !
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    Prescot Rd "Bridge" - 1921

    It could be Stanley Station on the right ...
    or could it be Knotty Ash Station on the right ?
    ( opposite Sainsbury's now )
    If not, where are the other bridges it could be ?
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    A Pic from the LRO of the Water Tower.
    According to Colin Gould "A Pictorial History of Old Swan", he says the Water Tower is by Green Lane Bus Depot.
    Looking at this pic, I suspect it was behind Hoult's Corner ( where Tesco is now )
    The left hand side of the pic looks like Barclays Bank ( top of Derby Lane ), in the second pic, Barclays Bank is to the right in the background AND in the third pic, is that the tower / Chimney behind Hoults corner ? I think so
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