I hope it's a case of when because the South are trying to take that market away from us.The place hardly coped with current traffic, never mind when post Panamaxes come.
I hope it's a case of when because the South are trying to take that market away from us.The place hardly coped with current traffic, never mind when post Panamaxes come.
The local transport plan says:
New Stations
B10 Maghull North
B11 Town Meadow
B12 Car Mill
B13 Vauxhall (Stanley Dock)
B14 Parliament Street (Chinatown)
B15 Otterspool
B16 Skelmersdale
B17 Woodchurch
B18 Deeside Industrial Park
B19 Beechwood
B20 Wavertree
B21 Greenbank Park (Penny Lane)
B22 Ditton
B23 Chapelford (for Omega)
So a new station at Penny Lane (not on the junction though). Wavertee, maybe Welington Rd. Parliament St (the station is there) and one at Stanley Dock.
We are waiting for stations at the ends of the Waterloo and Wapping Tunnels - and few staion cut into these tunnels too.
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A NEW £7.6m scheme to open up the booming Port of Liverpool to extra freight trains was given a big boost yesterday when the Government said it had "strong potential". more
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Port rail link plans submitted
The rail link would take freight off the roads, supporters claim
A £7.6m plan to reopen a rail link between the Port of Liverpool and the West Coast Mainline is a step closer, according to travel chiefs.
The stretch of line known as the Olive Mount Chord links the route to Bootle with the London to Manchester line.
Although out of use for 20 years, Merseytravel believes the line could boost freight traffic to the port and reduce congestion on the roads.
A planning application has been submitted to Liverpool City Council.
The company which runs the region's public transport came up with the plans in partnership with Mersey Docks and Harbour Company, Network Rail and Northern Way.
Councillor Mark Dowd, member for Bootle and Chair of Merseytravel, said: "Improved rail access to the Port of Liverpool is a high priority for us, but it will also bring direct benefits to people living in Bootle and around the docks.
"The cargo trucks may bring massive economic benefits to hauliers and others, but to the people of Bootle and along the dock route they can bring misery."
A display of the scheme is on show at Wavertree Library until the end of July.
If approved, Merseytravel hopes to begin work later in 2007 with completion expected by the end of 2008.
Try this map ref:
http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.40653,-2.9227|17|4&loc=GB:53.40371:-2.8706:14|wavertree|Wavertree,%20Hyton,%20L16%202
(near Wavertree Technology Park Station, chord runs under Rathbone Rd, just South of Edge Lane. Certainly route looks pretty intact. Was it a daft decision to close it in the first place? Can be replaced with new track now, and cost of maintenance in the interim avoided. Old track probably in use at some preserved railway somewhere in the country.)
this picture reference suggests some slightly different location, but I think it's wrong...
http://www.bevanprice.freeuk.com/livpool.htm
My only note of caution is to make sure that alternative diversionary routes also exist. A fine way to get shippers annoyed is to attract a lot of freight on to rail, and then for complete chaos to ensue if/when there's some sort of blockage. DIVERSIONARY ROUTES are vital in these schemes. Let's find out what's proposed. (Much is made of the Felixstowe-Nuneaton scheme round where I live. It's currently CLOSED following the derailment of a freight train south of Ely on a river bridge, and may be closed for several months. How's that for service? Hopeless. Where's the diversionary route?
Stephen, Cambridge
I posted a LIVERPOOL & DISTRICT 1928 MAP a few weeks ago on Liverpool Past. This shows many of the railway lines and stations that were about in Liverpool at the time if you are interested in looking.
regards
Rob
Originally Posted by Paul D
Port rail link plans submitted
The rail link would take freight off the roads, supporters claim
A £7.6m plan to reopen a rail link between the Port of Liverpool and the West Coast Mainline is a step closer, according to travel chiefs.
The stretch of line known as the Olive Mount Chord links the route to Bootle with the London to Manchester line.
Although out of use for 20 years, Merseytravel believes the line could boost freight traffic to the port and reduce congestion on the roads.
A planning application has been submitted to Liverpool City Council.
The company which runs the region's public transport came up with the plans in partnership with Mersey Docks and Harbour Company, Network Rail and Northern Way.
Councillor Mark Dowd, member for Bootle and Chair of Merseytravel, said: "Improved rail access to the Port of Liverpool is a high priority for us, but it will also bring direct benefits to people living in Bootle and around the docks.
"The cargo trucks may bring massive economic benefits to hauliers and others, but to the people of Bootle and along the dock route they can bring misery."
A display of the scheme is on show at Wavertree Library until the end of July.
If approved, Merseytravel hopes to begin work later in 2007 with completion expected by the end of 2008.
I think the journalist means the Liverpool to Manchester (Victoria) railway (not forgetting Wigan, Preston & Blackpool etc).
The London to Manchester railway is the other side of the M6.
What's going on in the local media? Presumably pieces are proof read? I know I'm over reacting but it's in response to a pattern of lazy inaccuracies that I have noticed in the local papers.
Green light for revived rail link to Mersey docks
Oct 30 2007 Rob Merrick Liverpool Daily Post
Seaforth Docks will be linked to the rail network by reopening the Olive Mount Chord
A VITAL £7.6m project to provide a direct rail link between Liverpool docks and the UK’s main rail network is to go-ahead.
The Department for Transport (DfT) yesterday announced a £1.7m grant to help restore the track at Olive Mount Chord and enhance the gauge on two key rail routes.
The money plugs the missing link in a complicated funding package also involving Merseytravel, port owner Peel Holdings, Network Rail and the regional development agency.
And it means Merseytravel can press ahead with plans to begin work later this year and complete the scheme by the end of 2008.
The project is crucial to prevent freight trains having to reverse across passenger lines at Edge Hill to enter or leave the docks, a procedure that takes 40 minutes.
Bringing Olive Mount Chord back into use will raise the strict 21-a-day limit on trains in and out of Seaforth, a limit the port is within about one year of hitting.
At the moment, rail traffic from the Port of Liverpool heads along the Seaforth dock line to Edge Hill, where trains have to head back towards Liverpool and into a siding before reversing back onto the main line.
By restoring the Olive Mount Chord close to Wavertree Technology Park station, trains will reach the main line directly.
Cllr Mark Dowd, Merseytravel’s chairman, said: “This is excellent news, which will enable us to invest in gauge enhancements on in all routes into the docks.
“The ports are key economic engines for Merseyside and Olive Mount Chord will be a vital artery to the ports.
“It will allow us to shift huge amounts of freight from road to rail, while supporting the continued economic success of the sub- region.”
Last night, the DfT announced that Rosie Winterton, a transport minister, will see for herself the need for the scheme when she visits the Port of Liverpool today. (Tues)
Ms Winterton said: “This funding underlines the Government’s commitment to improving the rail freight network across the country, as well as supporting the growth of the Port of Liverpool.
“Importantly, passenger services will also benefit as these infrastructure improvements are expected to improve reliability.”
Olive Mount Chord, which is just 300 metres long, was closed in the 1970s, when the Port of Liverpool – and rail travel – were both in sharp decline.
Last year, the Daily Post revealed that Network Rail, Merseytravel and the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company (MDHC) were all increasingly alarmed by delays.
The Port of Liverpool package has been put together by Network Rail (£3.82m) the regional development agencies (£3.6m), Merseytravel (£2m) and Peel Holdings (£0.75m)
The DfT’s £1.7m grant is a small slice of £132m for rail improvements into ports announced by the department yesterday.
Much bigger grants will go to Felixstowe, in Suffolk, (£80m), Southampton (£43m) and the Humber (£8m)
In total, the schemes will take around 300,000 lorry journeys off British roads every year, the DfT said.
The green light has been given for work on a new multi-million pound
Freight link between the Port of Liverpool and the West Coast Main Line.
Merseytravel's Olive Mount Chord project involves reopening a disused stretch
of railway, linking Bootle with London and Manchester.
The line, about a quarter of a mile long, has been closed for 20 years.
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‘Vital’ rail link could help ease road congestion
Jan 21 2008
by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post
WORK is to start on a “vital” new rail freight link between the Port of Liverpool and the West Coast Main Line.
The £7.9m Olive Mount Chord project will bring back into use a stretch of track which has been closed for 20 years.
The scheme, expected to start within weeks and finish before the end of the year, is key to moving freight in and out of the docks more quickly and easing road congestion.
It is hoped it will also unlock investment in the port.
The work involves a disused quarter-mile stretch linking Bootle with London and Manchester.
Merseytravel has approved its £2.1m contribution to the project, which is supported by Network Rail, the Northwest Regional Development Agency, Merseyside’s district councils and the European Regional Development Fund.
It will remove the need for freight trains to reverse at Edge Hill, slashing rail times by cutting the need to cross lines into and out of Lime Street.
Cllr Mark Dowd, chairman of Merseytravel, said the scheme could help reduce the number of lorries passing through Bootle from the motorway via Switch Island.
Source: Liverpool Daily Post
switch island could be made easier with a big flyover and re-engineering of the lights system, however what are the real links direct to liverpool / london ,? flight direct is still not the best, this train route seems to be a bit of an answer and the rest is road / also i don't know what percentage needs to go to london, exports can go direct to certain european / british cities via flight / rail , are we sitting in a cul de sac ,
Last edited by shoney; 01-21-2008 at 11:12 AM.
Is this still going ahead? Has there been any confirmation of the stations being built?
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