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    Quote Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
    I do have a couple and I've read a few more from the library in the past. He was (is?) certainly a gifted story teller but some of his sources can be a bit elusive in my experience.
    I'm sorry, you can say anybody is a bit elusive but Whittington Egan!
    This man is responsible for so many people's passion for Liverpool local history.

    I have corresponded with him and he comes from a well documented (and well to do) family, with connections in the Philharmonic orchestra, Maybrick's, and had many first hand meetings with alot of the legends that make Liverpool history so great.
    He even has his own little Black Museum! (wow!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
    I do have a couple and I've read a few more from the library in the past. He was (is?) certainly a gifted story teller but some of his sources can be a bit elusive in my experience.
    Hello researchwriter

    I am pleased to tell you that Richard Whittington-Egan is still alive and living in Worcestershire with his wife, Molly, also a writer. Richard Whittington-Egan's The Quest for Jack the Ripper was first announced to be imminent in 1998 but has yet to appear from Rupert Books. I understand the book has grown to immense proportions and if and when it finally appears it should be a compendium that Ripperologists will wish to own as a definitive book on the topic.

    All the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChains View Post
    I'm sorry, you can say anybody is a bit elusive but Whittington Egan!
    This man is responsible for so many people's passion for Liverpool local history.

    I have corresponded with him and he comes from a well documented (and well to do) family, with connections in the Philharmonic orchestra, Maybrick's, and had many first hand meetings with alot of the legends that make Liverpool history so great.
    He even has his own little Black Museum! (wow!)
    Here is the Wikipedia entry on RWE:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Whittington-Egan
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    Hello Ged and DaisyChains

    I don't know what is happening here but I was trying to merge to threads labeled RWE and it ended up merging the posts as well.

    Daisy Chains, you said:

    Chris, thanks for starting this thread.

    As a lot of you already know, he is a massive hero of mine!

    And Ged you stated:

    I have his 'Liverpool Characters & Eccentrics' (only Chippie is missing?)

    'Tales of Liverpool - Murder, Mayhem and Mystery'

    Liverpool Ghosts and Ghouls.

    All forming part of his Liverpool dossier series.

    Haven't read them for years though till I dug the cylinder story out today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    I have his 'Liverpool Characters & Eccentrics' (only Chippie is missing?)

    'Tales of Liverpool - Murder, Mayhem and Mystery'

    Liverpool Ghosts and Ghouls.

    All forming part of his Liverpool dossier series.

    Haven't read them for years though till I dug the cylinder story out today.
    I have collected first editions of all of his Liverpool books.

    Also Riddle of Birdhurst Rise (Croydon Poisonings)

    and The Ordeal of Philip Yale Drew.

    I have most of the rest of his books, except the Richard Galliene one.

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    This is a really bad quality pic I took of the pic at the back of one of his books (Liverpool Soundings I think!)


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    If it wasn't for him, most people interested in the Williamson's Tunnels would have never known they existed.

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    Does anybody have the radio shows he broadcasted years ago?

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    His Great British Torso Mystery book was released by Bluecoat.

    http://archive.thisisworcestershire....22/238317.html

    Book clearance have a few copies still left for 1.99
    It is Accomplished

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    Anyone who takes 'The Mole' which is the newsletter from the Friends of Williamson's Tunnels will see the article about R-WE alive and well and looking grand for his age!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    Anyone who takes 'The Mole' which is the newsletter from the Friends of Williamson's Tunnels will see the article about R-WE alive and well and looking grand for his age!
    Oohh would like to see that if I could!

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    I, or rather my father, have "Liverpool Roundabout" about a variety of subjects.



    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello Ged and DaisyChains

    I don't know what is happening here but I was trying to merge to threads labeled RWE and it ended up merging the posts as well.

    Daisy Chains, you said:

    Chris, thanks for starting this thread.

    As a lot of you already know, he is a massive hero of mine!

    And Ged you stated:

    I have his 'Liverpool Characters & Eccentrics' (only Chippie is missing?)

    'Tales of Liverpool - Murder, Mayhem and Mystery'

    Liverpool Ghosts and Ghouls.

    All forming part of his Liverpool dossier series.

    Haven't read them for years though till I dug the cylinder story out today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julieoapw View Post
    I, or rather my father, have "Liverpool Roundabout" about a variety of subjects.
    So have I. RWE got it wrong about George Kelly and the Cameo case!

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    Hello,

    Could you tell me how to get in touch with Mr. Whittington-Egan? I would like to be able to tell him how much one of his books has meant to me over the years.

    Many thanks!

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    Hello Eva

    I am sending you a private message in response to your query.

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    Can i ask a question here , it's not off topic and i was wondering , is Richard Whittington a descendent of 'Dick Whittington ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debra View Post
    Can i ask a question here , it's not off topic and i was wondering , is Richard Whittington a descendent of 'Dick Whittington ?
    Hi Debra,just had a quick Wiki' and I couldn't see any connection,but that could be wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Hi Debra,just had a quick Wiki' and I couldn't see any connection,but that could be wrong!
    Okay , thank you Steve .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
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    I am sending you a private message in response to your query.

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    Do me a favour and ask if he intends to ever offer any apologies for his "Little Caesar of Lime Street" comment about George Kelly in "Liverpool Roundabout".

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    Do me a favour and ask if he intends to ever offer any apologies for his "Little Caesar of Lime Street" comment about George Kelly in "Liverpool Roundabout".
    What's that about UW?

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    The Cameo killings Pabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    The Cameo killings Pabs.
    Gathered that UW, but what did he say that was so bad?

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    He referred to him in his book as "The Little caesar of Lime Street" and other callous remarks about him being a killer. He was an innocent man and not a gangster at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    He referred to him in his book as "The Little caesar of Lime Street" and other callous remarks about him being a killer. He was an innocent man and not a gangster at all.
    What were his reasons for this? Were there any grounds for him to suspect this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    He referred to him in his book as "The Little caesar of Lime Street" and other callous remarks about him being a killer. He was an innocent man and not a gangster at all.

    Michael Macilwee makes a few remarks about George Kelly being a gangster in his book 'Tearaways'. There's no excuse since George Skelly's book was available for him to read.

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    Jumping on the bandwagon of there being no smoke without fire when in fact there was, and the smoke was fanned by Herbert Balmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    He referred to him in his book as "The Little caesar of Lime Street" and other callous remarks about him being a killer. He was an innocent man and not a gangster at all.
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    Jumping on the bandwagon of there being no smoke without fire when in fact there was, and the smoke was fanned by Herbert Balmer.
    I think today it's obvious that Balmer "fitted up" the two men, George Kelly and Charles Connolly, as the men responsible for the Cameo murders. That the Crown failed to prove its case, that the convictions were "unsafe" to put it technically, has now been upheld by the high court. But the point is that I don't think that was obvious when Richard Whittington-Egan published his Liverpool Roundabout way back in 1957. I don't believe people were jumping on his case back then for being wrong.

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    Whittington - Egan claimed he knew GK before the Cameo and used a bit of poetic licence in Liverpool Roundabout and how much of an underworld figure GK was....when he wasn't. Whittington - Egan went beyond sticking to the so called facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    I think today it's obvious that Balmer "fitted up" the two men, George Kelly and Charles Connolly, as the men responsible for the Cameo murders. That the Crown failed to prove its case, that the convictions were "unsafe" to put it technically, has now been upheld by the high court. But the point is that I don't think that was obvious when Richard Whittington-Egan published his Liverpool Roundabout way back in 1957. I don't believe people were jumping on his case back then for being wrong.

    Chris
    Then it was up to Whittington Egan back then to do the research that Skelly obviously did in finding them innocent. It's easier to go with the flow of the jury findings on dodgy evidence. I believe W.E. has also changed his stance on the Wallace case since his 'Corpse in the parlour' work was published so in effect that renders anyone reading them now as unaware that he now thinks differently.
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    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carrie1...7613665343934/

    Someones flickr set of the houses Egan supposedly lived in.
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