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    Default St. George Church "The Iron Church"

    Hi,

    I'm Gerhard. I'm a stundent of architecture in Nürnberg(Germany).
    I have to write an article about the constructione of the St. George Church in Everton.
    Especially about the ironconstruction on the roof.

    I search over a week at the internet, libary....but I find no realizable informationes.

    Maybe sombody of you can help me....PLEASE

    greetings

    Gerhard


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerimensch View Post
    Hi,

    I'm Gerhard. I'm a stundent of architecture in Nürnberg(Germany).
    I have to write an article about the constructione of the St. George Church in Everton.
    Especially about the ironconstruction on the roof.

    I search over a week at the internet, libary....but I find no realizable informationes.

    Maybe sombody of you can help me....PLEASE

    greetings

    Gerhard
    Here's a link to the church's somewhat out of date web site. It has a good photo of the internal structural ironwork

    http://www.neighbourhoodservices.com/stgeorgeschurch/

    The church has published its own history. You might care to contact the vicar to purchase a copy. It has a lot of information about the building of the church plus several photos.

    Another church built around the same time is St Michael in the Hamlet, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. This has a greater use of cast iron in the structure.
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    Hiya Gerhard
    I have a book "St Georges Church Everton, the Iron Church" by RF Mould

    email me with the information you would like & I'll see if its in the book

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    Hiya Mandy, well done, I,ve been looking for my copy all afternoon. I was going to send it to Gerhard but couldn,t find it at all.

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    Hi together,

    thank you for your fast replies. Your posts help me very well.
    Andy if you have more details and drawings about the for me post it please.

    Thank you very much indeed!

    Gerhard

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    heres some recent photos for you
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    Thanks for them Mandy, I,ve saved the first one. My dad and Auntie Lil had their service from here before they were laid to rest. Mind you, you can hardly say my dad is" laid to rest" floating in the Mersey, can you?

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    Hiya Gerhard

    heres a few scans from the book
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    and here are a few photos I took yesterday

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    lovely Mandy, thank you for those smashin, photos. I correct myself when I said that I had two relatives had their service in St Georges, it was three, dad, Auntie Lil and Uncle Bill. My other uncle was buried in Glasgow, that,s half my dad,s family gone now.

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    Thank you Mandy for this helpful pictures!!
    Now I can start my work.

    greats

    Geri

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    Well done Mandy, great pics. There's just room under those inscriptions for Robbo woz ere 2007.
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    here's some pics of the interior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerimensch View Post
    Thank you Mandy for this helpful pictures!!
    Now I can start my work.

    greats

    Geri
    Look at the Churches

    - St. Michaels in the Hamlet (built by the same man who built St George's)
    - St James' Church

    Both of iron construction.

    Also look at Oriel Chambers in Water St in Liverpool (the world's first iron framed glass curtain walled building (1864) and 16 Cook St, similar, two years later. Most modern buildings are based on the construction methods of these two buildings.

    16 Cook St is my favourite building of any anywhere. A magic little building that even has a cantilevered encased in glass, spiral staircase at the back (out of view for the public).
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    frist: happy new year. :-)

    Now my question: Does somebody of you know why the door of the st. george church is red?
    I have know idea and for me it make no sense. ;-)

    greats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerimensch View Post
    Hi,

    frist: happy new year. :-)

    Now my question: Does somebody of you know why the door of the st. george church is red?
    I have know idea and for me it make no sense. ;-)

    greats

    geri
    It just looks like someone had bad taste.

    Prefabricated iron churches were made in Liverpool - a kit. I believe the odd one or two is still lying around Africa.
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    Lovely photographs, Mandy!

    Following is a poem of mine that I posted on the Liverpool 800 Poems site.

    The Blake Mistake

    Henri took Ginsberg to St. George’s, Everton,
    chill church interior constructed of cast iron:
    iron columns, vaulted ribs, window tracery,
    all transported via horse-drawn dray from
    Cragg’s Forge, Toxteth. As they emerged

    from the iron cathedral, the scribes laughed
    to see “Blake Street,” reminded of William Blake,
    eighteenth century poet, madman, artist: unaware
    the street name derived not from the Tyger man
    who had warned of England’s dark satanic mills,
    but Cromwell's ironsided admiral, Robert Blake.

    Each cherished the talismanic moment in his heart;
    William Blake’s ghost fertilized his muse to the root.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Lovely photographs, Mandy!

    Following is a poem of mine that I posted on the Liverpool 800 Poems site.

    The Blake Mistake

    Henri took Ginsberg to St. George’s, Everton,
    chill church interior constructed of cast iron:
    iron columns, vaulted ribs, window tracery,
    all transported via horse-drawn dray from
    Cragg’s Forge, Toxteth. As they emerged

    Wasn't Cragg's foundry off Dale Street?

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    I've just found this short video of St Georges

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/video...0252-20200867/
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    Ta Mandy.. even though that video clip was very short.. it was informative.. I never new it had a caste iron frame.. and is the highest point in Liverpool.. thanks for that info..

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    here some photos from St Georges tower from today

    the clock
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    Great those Mandy.
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    Some good views there Mandy

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    Good pics there Mandy.Well done

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    thank you Ged,Lindy & Zaps
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    How did you get up there Mandy, you,re not absailing again are you?

    Great views from what has become the family church since St Benedicts was pulled down. Our lot seem to have their services from there now.

    Well done Mandy.

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    This church is one of my most favorites. This is probably because I really adore the way iron steels were erected on the ceiling, better than any other steel commercial buildings that has ever existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredgate View Post
    This church is one of my most favorites. This is probably because I really adore the way iron steels were erected on the ceiling, better than any other steel commercial buildings that has ever existed.
    ^ I totally agree with you. its good to think about how a considerably old church still could attract lots of admirers.
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    Taffy wrote:
    < Frances Morton and Co Ltd was of course based in Garston and was a major steel fabrication company. A particular speciality was prefabricated buildings, churches etc which they exported world wide. The business had its roots in Cable St Liverpool in 1766. Unfortunately like most of the original dockside industry in Garston, it is no more. >

    Please could you tell me more about the history of this Company. I think was founded by two engineers but I couldn't find any information about them.
    Could you tell me what happened with this Co.? Are they still working with another name?
    I am from Buenos Aires and we have very important iron buildings from 1910-1920. The most famous is the Railroad Central Terminal that has cost 2.000.000 pounds of those years.
    Thank you very much for your attention.
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