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    Default Shakespeare theatre in Prescot

    This is the first I've heard of this project, seems interesting

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/7052189.stm


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    This has come up before.
    The claim is that Prescot had the first indoor theatre in the country.
    That's impossible to believe.
    Besides, it calls it the cockpit theatre, so if anything, it was converted from a cockpit.
    Liverpool, along with lots of other places, had cockpits used as theatres in the 16th century.

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    I think there's some misunderstanding here. Although many cockpits were converted to theatres, it's also a term to describe the pit of a theatre. In this case the aim is to recreate an Elizabethan cockpit theatre by trading on Shakespeare's Prescot connections.

    To claim that it's "impossible" to believe Prescot had the first indoor theatre in the country is silly.

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    The pit area of a theatre takes its name from "a sunken area" and certainly not from "cock-pit" (such a claim is silly).
    Cock-pits were made for cock-fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    The pit area of a theatre takes its name from "a sunken area" and certainly not from "cock-pit" (such a claim is silly).
    http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?va=cockpit
    http://sorabji.com/d/dictionary/cockpit/
    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/cockpit
    http://www.yourdictionary.com/cockpit

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    What does "obsolete" mean in this context.

    Going back to the subject of the thread.
    The "theatre" in Prescot.
    Seeing as how scouserdave is (presumably) an authority on early Merseyside theatres, perhaps he can tell us when the theatre in Prescot operated.
    Failing that, perhaps he knows exactly where it was situated, as these people who want so many million pounds, haven't answered these (to me) important questions.

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    "Shakespeare's Prescot Connections".
    Do tell us more, with dates and sources, please.
    Last edited by PhilipG; 10-20-2007 at 11:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Check what "obsolete" means.

    Going back to the subject of the thread.
    The "theatre" in Prescot.
    Seeing as how scouserdave is (presumably) an authority on early Merseyside theatres, perhaps he can tell us when the theatre in Prescot operated.
    Failing that, perhaps he knows exactly where it was situated, as these people who want so many million pounds, haven't answered these (to me) important questions.
    Obsolete means the term is no longer used, out of date. Well the Elizabethan era was a while back Phil!

    Phil what's with the attitude? If I posted in this way, you'd PM Kev in a flash to complain about me. I was only commenting about you using the word "impossible" in a previous post. No need to get your frillys in a twist dear.

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    Dave, ths is all out in the open now.
    Please give us some facts.
    Thar's all I ask.
    Keep it reasonably civil, and there's no reason to complain to Kev.

    BTW, you answered before I'd finished editing my previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Dave, ths is all out in the open now.
    Please give us some facts.
    Thar's all I ask.
    Keep it reasonably civil, and there's no reason to complain to Kev.

    BTW, you answered before I'd finished editing my previous post.
    You're fortunate I'm not as thin skinned as you Phil or I may have complained to Kev about your previous post.

    Facts? Phil I've covered everything I wanted to in my previous posts. I corrected you on the bearpit/theatre reference and I corrected you on using the word "impossible" regarding Prescot possibly having the first indoor theatre in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    You're fortunate I'm not as thin skinned as you Phil or I may have complained to Kev about your previous post.

    Facts? Phil I've covered everything I wanted to in my previous posts. I corrected you on the bearpit/theatre reference and I corrected you on using the word "impossible" regarding Prescot possibly having the first indoor theatre in the country.
    Bearpit?
    Tell us more!

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    Doesnt look like this will happen as lottery funding has been rejected

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-20105698/

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    A pity this got rejected, but no surprise if Knowsley Council tried to convince the lottery Shakespeare spent years in Knowsley Borough rather than the town of Prescot!?.

    Knowsley was only formed in 1974, the Shakespeare connection was with Lord Derby & Prescot (but that would never do would it?)

    The location for the new theatre was going to be the old guides building between the Long Pull car park and Prescot Museum (on High Street). Location was probably right for the original as it's the highest point in Prescot but Knowsley Council have not thought it through (again) - pull down a grade II listed building for lottery funded rebuild based on fantasy thought up by some idiot in KBC hierachy...no wonder it got thrown out.

    It seems the actors really got behind this. If they resubmit for funding again try and get Daniel Craig involved, he'll raise the profile more than a few dodgy councillors and spent his youth in Prescot...

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    This sounds terrific. There's still something about Prescot; around the museum and Church and the Dean's House, something Huyton (the other strong Stanley connection) has probably lost forever. Have you tried writing to Daniel Craig?

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    Just like PhilG.... where the the evidence? Show me a solitary scrap of evidence that Shakespeare was in Prescot and had a covered theatre built.

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    Default Shakespeare in Prescot

    It seems the town believes he was there. See photo below with their evidence.
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    Wow looks great, well, id be there anyway!
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