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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsette View Post
    I do like the scene around Jesse Hartley's clock tower. In another scene there is a peculiar tent/leanto type of building, that looks like it could blow away in a strong nor'wester. Is it some kind of band shell?
    Is that the glass trapizoidal building in the pictures you saw?

    If so, it's many stories high and is a bit more than a bandstand. I think it's competing for an architecture award against the museum building....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsette View Post
    I do like the scene around Jesse Hartley's clock tower. In another scene there is a peculiar tent/leanto type of building, that looks like it could blow away in a strong nor'wester. Is it some kind of band shell?
    The irony of the heritage lobbies Samsette is that they'd rather the historic clock tower remain in moth balls and locked away from the citizens of Liverpool. Peel plan to bring it at least back into view along with other historical places of interest.
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    I am all for that, Ged. I only wish that Peel had bought the Sailors Home.

    Trapizoidal? It flies thru the air
    with the greatest of ease,
    that ***** looking structure,
    when caught in a breeze.

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    Well an e-petition that's been raised in retaliation to the one man band preservation trust who seems to have his lone voice heard more than is merited.

    I've posted this on a number of district facebook groups and it has received a fantastic response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggedboy View Post
    Wayne and his heritage lobby views have been given enough publicity of late. It is time for those who support Liverpool Waters to air their support.

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23842

    buggedboy who posted the e-petition to here makes these indisputable points elsewhere.


    LW has 105 buildings. 60 of them are shorter than the town hall, which by any standard, is pretty small to say the least. Only 11 buildings are taller than the Liver Building. The nearest tall is 500m away, further than West Tower, which itself has had no negative impact on heritage. Shanghai tower is almost 600m away from the Liver Building, similar to the distance between the two cathedrals. They couldn't be more different but they don't clash. How's that for balanced?


    I would also add that if English Heritage, the preservation trust (one man band) and UNESCO existed in the early 1900s, plans for filling a dock in to create a skyscraper we now know and love to be the Royal Liver building wouldn't have happened.
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    "I would also add that if English Heritage, the preservation trust (one man band) and UNESCO existed in the early 1900s, plans for filling a dock in to create a skyscraper we now know and love to be the Royal Liver building wouldn't have happened."

    So true! Of course,they all have a role to play,but not to the detriment of the people who actually live here.....we should make the final decision,not outsiders!


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    Believe it or not, the Liver when built was also the tallest skyscraper this side of the Atlantic, so far seeing we were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Believe it or not, the Liver when built was also the tallest skyscraper this side of the Atlantic, so far seeing we were.
    And amazingly remained the tallest building in the UK for 50 years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Believe it or not, the Liver when built was also the tallest skyscraper this side of the Atlantic, so far seeing we were.
    It's a good job UNESCO weren't around then as it might not have been built.

    I'll get me coat.

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    Liverpool council have passed the 50 million pound plans for development of the tobacco warehouse
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    Great news. Hopefully the first stage of wider development down there.

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    LIVERPOOL CITY CENTRE POPULATION MARK HITS 28,000


    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...name_page.html



    It is great that the city centre is vibrant again which helps sustain newsagents, grocers, pubs, clubs and restaurants to name but some. For too long it was a ghost town of an evening when the last workers and shoppers had caught their respected buses home.

    The increase belies what the scaremongerers tell us about the slow uptake on city centre apartments.
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    With the increased student population, this should continue. Good news.

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    Joe Anderson is making it quite clear, he is looking forward not back in terms of any obstacles put forward by Unesco
    http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...2534-30044826/

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    Good on Joe. If Unesco want to put 5.5b into Liverpool's Central Docks instead, then we'll go with their plans
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    Nice one Joe

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    If World Heritage Status came with a 5.5 Billion prize it would be worth defending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    If World Heritage Status came with a 5.5 Billion prize it would be worth defending.
    True.....but otherwise,I think we'd manage quite well without it! Let the tourists/investors decide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    True.....but otherwise,I think we'd manage quite well without it! Let the tourists/investors decide!
    I dont think I've met a single person from outside the city who has said they came here on the basis they'd heard it was a world heritage site.

    Am I right in thinking though, if the world heritage status is stripped, the scheme will then be called in by the government for a public enquiry?

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    The Government ministers involved have already mooted they would give this scheme the go ahead, I believe it's not compulsory anyway that it would be called in. In this economic climate and especially now since the 30 year freedom if information release about the 'managed decline', I doubt any minister would put the kibosh on 5.5b of private investment into Liverpool.
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    Enlgish Heritage has no powers whatsoever to call a public inquiry. It can only refer the matter to the Secretary of State. Bear in mind that is Eric Pickles, who does what he is told by David Cameron. It was cameron who granted Liverpool Waters enterprise zone status, basically giving it the nod. He won't want to hold it up and should wave it through.

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    There is a good thread here of how Wayne C (He of the appropriate initials) has been rumbled as a one man band and a great pic of what we must preserve at all costs. See what you think .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    There is a good thread here of how Wayne C (He of the appropriate initials) has been rumbled as a one man band and a great pic of what we must preserve at all costs. See what you think .

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...47667&page=129

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    I dont think I've met a single person from outside the city who has said they came here on the basis they'd heard it was a world heritage site.

    Am I right in thinking though, if the world heritage status is stripped, the scheme will then be called in by the government for a public enquiry?
    No. No connection between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    There is a good thread here of how Wayne C (He of the appropriate initials) has been rumbled as a one man band and a great pic of what we must preserve at all costs. See what you think .

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...47667&page=129
    A very silly thread full of tall concrete admiring pots. Wayne has a point. A big point. He is not against modern architecture, just preserving what we have. Modern developments in Liverpool over 75 years have been dire.

    Peel = Harry Hyams (of Centre Point fame, who wanted to fill in the Albert Dock). We will end up with what we have been dished up at the South Docks....



    The above was the wonderful Herculeneum Dock. Look what we got.

    Then look at the Echo Arena, which looks like an IKEA shed. They are planning another shed at Queens Dock. Expect more of the same from Harry Hyams, oh sorry, Peel.

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