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    Went along Regent rd. today,and noticed the sidewalks were being re-built. (much of it being pretty non-existant,now!)So,I wondered if the proposed Stanley dock development by Peel Holdings,was imminent? In these cash-strapped times,any investment by the council(?)in what seems unecccessary renewal of the infrastructure in that area.( it's hardly pedestrianised!)Has anyone heard anything? (in the dock itself,what looks like a new ferry structure of some sort?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Went along Regent rd. today,and noticed the sidewalks were being re-built. (much of it being pretty non-existant,now!)So,I wondered if the proposed Stanley dock development by Peel Holdings,was imminent? In these cash-strapped times,any investment in by the council(?)in what seems unecccessary renewal of the infrastructure in that area.( it's hardly pedestrianised!)Has anyone heard anything? (in the dock itself,what looks like a new ferry structure of some sort?)
    I think you mean Regent St....

    Could it be the new cruise liner terminal/pier?

    The existing one is quite a disgrace.

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    Regent Road is correct methinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Regent Road is correct methinks
    That had me guessing! Have you heard anything,Ged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Regent Road is correct methinks
    Google map error? It puts Regent Rd, Liverpool in Great Crosby....

    It puts Regent St. just behind Trafalgar dock.

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    Apparently, a company called Harcourt developments,is behind a plan to spend 50 million on the Stanley dock area! So,I wonder what happened to the Peel plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Apparently, a company called Harcourt developments,is behind a plan to spend 50k on the Stanley dock area! So,I wonder what happened to the Peel plan?
    50k? Is that all?!

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    It looks like a cycle path being laid to me or is it part of the new coastal path which has being talked about recently. I don`t suppose Mr Peel would like us walking along his dock walls which would make it a true coastal path.

    Regent Road runs from Crosby Rd South to Cotton St where it becomes Waterloo Rd
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    It looks like a cycle path being laid to me or is it part of the new coastal path which has being talked about recently. I don`t suppose Mr Peel would like us walking along his dock walls which would make it a true coastal path.

    Regent Road runs from Crosby Rd South to Cotton St where it becomes Waterloo Rd
    We need more cycle paths. I said Cycle not psycho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    50k? Is that all?!

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    That's million,I should have said!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    50k? Is that all?!

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    Talks have been going on for months Kev involving my friend Kate who runs the Heritage Market and the Council..


    The Sunday Market will be moving over the road into another old warehouse..
    I'll be taking the photos for Kate when she moves....
    lots going on down that way...all to be revealed.
    meanwhile I'm busy down there making vids around the place and getting as many photos
    as I can before the re-development....
    I'm down there this weekend again, wandering around for hours on my own..
    I've a band photo shoot next week....
    I might just take them into a few places around the Stanley Warehouses for a few 'Industrial' like shots... I always like pics of bands in dockland scenes, we'll see.. !!



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    I know you tend to do these photo escapades alone Gerard, but one of these days I really must hide in your camera bag and follow you in to some of these places!

    Ive heard that some 25m has been made available, thus unlocking the major funds (about 140m in total) for the Stanley Dock area.

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...00252-29695961

    Isnt the third photo the new Ferry Terminal? Its due to be put in place any day.
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    Where are they going to put my mobile cafe that stands outside the Tobacco warehouse,where I get my tea and mars bar on my walkabouts ?
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    liverpool market by exacta2a, on Flickr

    An aisle in the Stanley Heritage market


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    An old sign in the Heritage market


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    Another warehouse across the Stanley dock where the market could possibly move to. The scaffolding has been there for a long time now possibly a failed attempt to develope it
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    liverpool market by exacta2a, on Flickr

    An old sign in the Heritage market
    Surprisingly it's not so old as Chip Shop 2000 only closed their shop on Slater street 2 or 3 years ago.

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    Wayne and his heritage lobby views have been given enough publicity of late. It is time for those who support Liverpool Waters to air their support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    .Another warehouse across the Stanley dock where the market could possibly move to....


    The market Joe is being moved to the Brunswick Dock...
    and heres news for the 'Copy and Pasters'....
    its going to be a Saturday and Sunday market.. with a view to maybe a 4/5 day market..

    Go paste that breaking news.. that should impress and get a few brownie points...

    (Plot sizes in the new Brunswick Market and lot rental fees available via PM...
    now that really will impress......)





    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    ...The scaffolding has been there for a long time now possibly a failed attempt to develope it


    It was used as a high camera point for a movie made at the dock..
    anybody know what movie ?.... a chocolate Father Christmas for the right answer...

    (The scaffolding now supports the dodgy walls and ceilings from collapsing.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by corky100 View Post
    I know you tend to do these photo escapades alone Gerard, but one of these days I really must hide in your camera bag and follow you in to some of these places!...


    I brought Grekko for a little wander around the Stanley Dock a few weeks ago Corky...
    I've more pics to come from new visits soon..
    I'm also taking the pics at an all nighter Rave party soon before it closes....
    I'll also be getting the 1st pics inside the new Brunswick heritage market...



    Cheers mate..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    It was used as a high camera point for a movie made at the dock..
    anybody know what movie ?.... a chocolate Father Christmas for the right answer...
    The Captain America movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az_gila View Post
    The Captain America movie?


    Spot on a_g... I am impressed..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    Spot on a_g... I am impressed..


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    I'll be over in a couple of weeks for my Chocolate Father Christmas....

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    Quote Originally Posted by az_gila View Post
    I'll be over in a couple of weeks for my Chocolate Father Christmas....

    Your'e on... a chocolate Daddy Christmas is waiting for you a-g mate..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    Your'e on... a chocolate Daddy Christmas is waiting for you a-g mate..
    (And a slurp or two if you fancy it.. )


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    Your'e on... a chocolate Daddy Christmas is waiting for you a-g mate..
    (And a slurp or two if you fancy it.. )


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    Great... the only English beer I can get around here on draught is Bass....

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    The Stanley dock iscaffolding in 2007



    pontoons used for filming Captain America in Stanley dock in 2010




    Imitation dock gatepost made for the Captain America car chase at Stanley dock ,if you look close you can see the joins
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    These are the latest images of what Peel propose but what they are being told to scale back.

    The top image changes so keep looking at it.


    http://www.liverpoolwaters.co.uk/content/home.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    These are the latest images of what Peel propose but what they are being told to scale back.

    The top image changes so keep looking at it.


    http://www.liverpoolwaters.co.uk/content/home.php


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    Looks interesting and neat if they can pull it off.

    There are many specific and exclusive benefits deriving from this, some of which are:
    • Potentially 100% business rates discount for five years. This means that each business that qualifies will receive discounts for five years from the start of its occupancy in the Zone, providing it enters the Zone by April 2015 subject to a maximum cap of 275,000. This cap would typically be reached if an occupier took 1,000 square metres (10,000 square feet) of floor space

    Does the above mean that Liverpool would get no tax revenue from it for 5 years, or does London and every UK tax payer take the "no tax" hit?

    The public planning meetings should interesting.... I just sat through a 6 1/2 hour town council meeting/public hearing for our little town of 40,000 - the controversy was changing the Master Plan to allow apartments in two specific areas zoned for commercial.

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    I expect the tax hit deal is underwritten by Peel to encourage uptake as I believe it was in Salford but further clarification of that might be required. Peel benefit of course of occupancy of their development so I suppose it's a bit like a house seller stumping up part or all of the stamp duty to encourage a sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    I expect the tax hit deal is underwritten by Peel to encourage uptake as I believe it was in Salford but further clarification of that might be required. Peel benefit of course of occupancy of their development so I suppose it's a bit like a house seller stumping up part or all of the stamp duty to encourage a sale.
    Ahh... I wasn't sure what a "business rate" discount was. I assumed it was a non-collection of a business tax owed to London, and a loss of income to the country.

    Is that not the case?

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    I do like the scene around Jesse Hartley's clock tower. In another scene there is a peculiar tent/leanto type of building, that looks like it could blow away in a strong nor'wester. Is it some kind of band shell?

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