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    New life for old cinema Dec 13 2006

    By Deborah James, Liverpool Daily Post Staff

    A SEARCH was yesterday launched for a developer to restore one of Liverpool's most cherished art deco landmarks to its former glory.

    "Imaginative" bids are being invited to transform the former ABC cinema on Lime Street.

    Regeneration agencies English Partnerships and Liverpool Vision say they are offering a "blank canvas" to find a new use for the Grade II listed picture-house.

    Early indications from city planners are that it could be suitable for a wide variety of projects including a museum or education space, a concert or dance hall, a sporting venue, or a restaurant or bar.

    It comes 18 months after a plan by Liverpool FC footballer Jamie Carragher and city businessman Paul Flanagan to turn the faded venue into a sports bar met resistance, when city leaders said they were considering it as a venue for 2008 Capital of Culture celebrations.

    Last night the Liverpool Culture Company said it had decided in autumn 2005 not to take up the option, as the building was "not suitable".

    English Partnerships said the problem was that national lottery funding was never secured for a dance company which wanted to use the ABC in 2008.

    It means the doors are now open for any developers to put forward a fresh proposal - including City Life Projects which signed Carragher up to the sports bar idea.

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    This annoys me this,if they had let Jamie Carragher do it "it would have been open by now"

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    QUOTE=Paul D;28950]This annoys me this,if they had let Jamie Carragher do it "it would have been open by now"[/QUOTE]

    Was that the scheme that was turned down because they wanted to put windows in the exterior walls?
    Ironically, the building was Listed because of the interior.
    Naturally, the exterior should be kept as intact as possible, but I'd rather see it used again with a couple of new windows than go the way of the Futurist.





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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Was that the scheme that was turned down because they wanted to put windows in the exterior walls?
    Ironically, the building was Listed because of the interior.
    Naturally, the exterior should be kept as intact as possible, but I'd rather see it used again with a couple of new windows than go the way of the Futurist.
    I think they'd have to add windows but doesn't worry them when they want to do it in the Irish centre so I can't see what the fuss was about?

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    Here's a mad thought....why not use it.....for a Cinema!!!

    Not showing all the new films but have a showing of films gone by, things that you have only seen on a video/dvd fairly recently.

    They should start showing all the Bond movies there for a start

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    Bkollos to the 2008 Capital of Culture celebrations, give it to Jamie.
    Phil, fantastic pics. Thanks

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    Great pics, PhilipG. Thanks!

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    Hi there all,

    I am an interior architect student and am really interested in developing either the Futurist Cinema of the ABC Forum Cinema in Liverpool. I am struggling to get plans for either of these buildings and its crucial that i have plans in order to do anything. I dont suppose anyone knows where i can obtain plans? Any help is much appreciated.

    xx

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    Hi there all,

    Im an interior design student, looking to propose new ideas for either the Futurist Cinema or the ABC Cinema on Lime street. I really need to get copies of plans before i can do anything, i have tried the council but they dont have much?! and its all archived!! Can anyone help?

    thanks xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelle28 View Post
    Hi there all,

    Im an interior design student, looking to propose new ideas for either the Futurist Cinema or the ABC Cinema on Lime street. I really need to get copies of plans before i can do anything, i have tried the council but they dont have much?! and its all archived!! Can anyone help?

    thanks xxx
    PhilG is more up on Cinema's so he may have plans himself - but if this is listed, maybe you should try either English Heritage and Central Library to see what they have to offer?

    If you haven't seen inside, I can source pictures for you.

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    thats great, i have just tried the english partnership but have left a message and waiting for them to get back to me. I know the ABC Forum is listed but the Futurist i dont think is, How do i find PhilG so i can ask him? Sorry i am all new to this.. Pictures would be great too, i want to try and gain acess but sorcing plans of either building seems the biggest hurdle at the moment.

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    PhilG is on the forum, he'll spot your post sooner or later - or perhaps drop him a private message.

    And then drop Snappel a Private Message too. I think he's been in at some point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    PhilG is on the forum, he'll spot your post sooner or later - or perhaps drop him a private message.

    And then drop Snappel a Private Message too. I think he's been in at some point
    Hello,

    I think you may have me mistaken with PhilipG, i'm new to this forum and have no info on the ABC cinema, i would suggest trying the Library for info, they may have some, you never know.

    If it's really important to the project try asking the council to un-archive the plans, ask nicely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    PhilG is on the forum, he'll spot your post sooner or later - or perhaps drop him a private message.

    And then drop Snappel a Private Message too. I think he's been in at some point
    beat me to it, Snappel has some interior pic,s he has a web site
    called level two so may have pic,s on there.
    The Futurist is wrecked inside but a search maybe of cinema treasures
    may turn up info

    http://cinematreasures.org/location/country=180/

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelle28 View Post
    Hi there all,

    Im an interior design student, looking to propose new ideas for either the Futurist Cinema or the ABC Cinema on Lime street. I really need to get copies of plans before i can do anything, i have tried the council but they dont have much?! and its all archived!! Can anyone help?

    thanks xxx
    Hello.
    Try the Council again.
    The Building Surveyor's Department have plans, but I don't know if they're available to the public.
    The ABC (Forum) and Seaforth Palladium are the only Listed cinemas in the Liverpool area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelle28 View Post
    Hi there all,

    I am an interior architect student and am really interested in developing either the Futurist Cinema of the ABC Forum Cinema in Liverpool. I am struggling to get plans for either of these buildings and its crucial that i have plans in order to do anything. I dont suppose anyone knows where i can obtain plans? Any help is much appreciated.

    xx
    Hope you get your plans.
    Nice to see people still interested in these fantastic buildings

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    Unhappy A HARD ROCK CAFE....

    All.... there is a developer interested at the moment according to the powers that be, but I've referred the ABC site onto HRC International as a possible venue for a Liverpool Hard Rock Cafe. Simply because I find it flaming incredible that we haven't actually got one!!!!

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    THE disused ABC cinema on Lime Street is to become a New York-style supper club and boutique hotel, it has been revealed. Read
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    The boutique hotel is going to be on the top floor.
    Presumably it'll have windows.
    Not long after the ABC closed plans were refused because new windows were required.
    I'd love to see the building in use again, but don't want to see it altered too much.

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    THE disused ABC cinema on Lime Street is to become a New York-style supper club and boutique hotel, it has been revealed.

    Regeneration agency English Partnerships has appointed award-winning property developer Urban Splash as preferred developer for the project.

    More herehttp://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-19739146/
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    Here Kat, I posted it yesterday
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    Thank goodness. Another eye-sore renovated. You see pictures of Lime Street in Edwardian England. It was awesome; better than Times Square. Lights, magic; bustling - a world hub of entertainment, life, the watering hole of the world's best. So sad to see its decline. Any old piccies anyone?
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    yes, but i posted it in the news section, if something is current news, which it was on the 5th, then i thought surly it should be "news"?
    if it was old news, like my post to do with st Johns shopping then yes, i can understand that it should go into another folder.
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    besides this is the abc

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    They'd better do up the rest of Lime Street then.Imagine staying at a posh hotel and looking out of your window and seeing all those manky shops.

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    As long as the exterior stays the same and has no extra windows or cheesy signs then it is better than nothing - but such a shame to lose the magic of the interior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    As long as the exterior stays the same and has no extra windows or cheesy signs then it is better than nothing - but such a shame to lose the magic of the interior.

    I can't really see how the development as a whole will work unless there are at least some windows knocked through.

    The club area could work in the darker, artifically lit style, but the hotel rooms on the upper floors would definitely need windows. The only way to retain a lack of windows would be to add a couple of floors using a recessed extension. I'd rather see a few windows than that personally.

    Lime street/London Road/parts of Renshaw Street are reallt the last remaining wastelands of the city centre (apart from hte ned to infil some sites around Tithebarn St) that havent got concrete plans in place or things on site.

    I'm really chuffed with the choice of developer. Urban Splash is as near to a dead cert as you can get when it comes to urban renewal schemes. They have been quietly getting on with the Great George st scheme, made great strides on the Littlewoods building, did a great job at Matchworks I and II and the Matchbox and not to forget the Tea and Vanilla Factories.

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    yes, urban splash are also busy working on the midland hotel in Morecambe an art deco building, so they certainly seem to have a good track record. I have put in another thread a report that suggests in 2009 the whole of st Johns shopping complex is up for re design, same with Clayton square.
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    I'm still waiting to find out what is the meaning of a 'boutique hotel' ... ha,ha, ... I thought a boutique is a shop that sells fashionable clobber

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    It's a pity that this subject is spread over 2 threads.
    Kev put it on another (scroll above) and I made my initial response to it there.
    It just doesn't make sense to dilute the discussion by having it all over the place!
    Ironically, at some point Kev will have to merge the two threads, because it is an important subject, and that's not fair!

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