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    Stan Zabecki sent me today’s photograph. A lovely photograph, it was taken by Frank Dugan, the American GI whose work has appeared here before. It is not an image I can remember from the portfolio Frank showed me back in the early 1990s. My first reaction was that it was taken at Princes Park Gates [...]
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    Great photo again Colin.

    I'd be very surprised if that was Princes Park gates - the roads look too narrow and the right angle of the pavement looks out of place.

    If I had to guess, I would say it was around the Park Way/Selboorne st. area because of the yellow bricked houses. There also used to be a public toilet up that way which may account for the wrought-iron work.


    I decided to read the text below the photo and now see you have already discounted Princes Park, sorry Colin.

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    In my fumbling around I found this, which may be of interest...

    http://www.francisfrith.com/wallasey...n=google.co.uk

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    Hi Colin, another gem.

    Initialy I though it was by the Arkles / around Anfield but then noticed those are 3 storey Terraced Houses !
    Someone must know, come on, where are or where were 3 story terraced houses ?

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    Not Newsham Park.

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    Looks like Belvedere Road / Devonshire Road, Im sure there is another gate to Princes park along there.

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    Could it be Worcestor rd, Bootle ? Derby park perhaps ?
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    Since Park gates don't usually close in day time, could it be an entrance to a yard or factory - rather than park gates?

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    This is Newsham Park,though what part I ain't got a clue? Judges Drive area maybe? most of the gates are lost on newsham Park but the house are similair to those in the pic.

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    I agree with Davec, they could be wrought iron around the underground Toilets that used to be around the city
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    I agree with Davec, they could be wrought iron around the underground Toilets that used to be around the city
    The gates look a bit too fancy for public bogs. They look ecclesiastical or religious, with those gothic motifs. Could they be the back gates to the Princes Road Synagogue or to that chapter house (octagonal?) looking building (church???) to the east of the synagogue?
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    I think the lad is standing in the dog-leg of Selbourne St. with the no longer existing block of houses behind.
    I'll go along with that Dave,and as Mart said a good find.

    I'm thinking those cast iron gates? where the entrence to the church opposite the houses?,but Im not too sure whether what is front now has been there since the photo was taken?

    Below is the front view of those house I think? and the second view is whats facing those houses across the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    I'll go along with that Dave,and as Mart said a good find.

    I'm thinking those cast iron gates? where the entrence to the church opposite the houses?,but Im not too sure whether what is front now has been there since the photo was taken?

    Below is the front view of those house I think? and the second view is whats facing those houses across the road.

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    GP, I think the first photo is looking at corner of Northbrook and Parkway.and the church in the second photo, that's the old Welsh Presbyterian church at the top of Upper Hill Street,and the tramway ran across the view from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    Here is the chuch that got demolished in Colins pic and a new church erected in its place which is still standing.
    Sadly it doesn't show the side of the gates.

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    GP,Can't find a record of demolition and rebuilding , when did it happen?

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    The wide street running from the top in this LRO aerial shot is Selbourne St, and the street that runs across it just before if 'dog-legs' is Parkway.
    Of the 3 rows of houses in Parkway only the right hand 2 rows remain.
    I think the lad is standing in the dog-leg of Selbourne St. with the no longer existing block of houses behind.
    A no-entry sign is still used in the street.

    http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dser...ge=9078_75.jpg

    A shot from Google street view which would be to the right of young lad.
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    I studied that google view earlier Dave and agree with you
    AND very well done for finding it


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