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    Default Help with a Liverpool ghosts and hauntings book

    Hi all,
    As some of you might already have read in this thread, I'm currently working on some sample chapters for a book about Liverpool's ghosts and hauntings (not in any way connected to Tom Slemen's work).

    I'd love to hear from anyone who has any ghostly accounts of their own to share or some haunted places they'd like to recommend for inclusion.

    I'm aiming to make the book as factual as possible, including as much of the documented history of the buildings/areas/people as I can find and interviewing witnesses personally if possible.

    Obviously, I can't give too much away about what I'm working on but, if you're interested in seeing a sample of my work, you can read my article about The Childe Of Hale on the Fortean Times website HERE

    Thanks in advance for your help.


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    hiya
    I am sorry to be vague, but I know one of the houses on Princes Avenue/Road were haunted.
    I am sure it's near Princes Park gates somewhere

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    I found mention of a poltergeist in Madryn Street (one of the Welsh Streets) during the 90's online but, other than that, the only haunted Toxteth stuff I've turned up thus far is some of Tom Slemen's work (which I definitely don't want to use as a source).

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    Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits wahtever you want,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFaragher View Post
    Tell tom what you want to hear and he'll make sure the story fits whatever you want.
    Yeah well, I certainly have no intention of questioning the validity of Mr. Slemen's work publically - he's written a lot of books and articles and people are obviously interested in what he has to say. However, many of the stories he writes (especially those related to hauntings and anomalies) are very difficult to find other evidence for (such as newspaper articles, etc). Also, all of his work is copywrited so, even if I did want to use him as a source, I couldn't.

    At the moment I'm specifically interested in any hauntings or ghostly encounters in north and east Liverpool. Haunted pubs anyone? Some of you must know a landlord or two surely?

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    A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
    I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
    I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    A lot of people have a deep-seated need to believe in the fantastic (and unbelievable).
    I don't understand this need, but it prevents them from attempting to listen to any sort of logical explanation for their outrageous claims.
    I suppose it's best not to try to enter into a "discussion" with them.
    Not quite sure what promoted that Phil as no one's actually made any fantastic claims here (more's the pity). I've got no particular beliefs of my own concerning ghosts and the supernatural but I think that strange or unexplained phenomena can often be very interesting. I'm all for investigating such cases, I don't think things should just be blindly believed. However, if someone genuinely believes they have had a supernatural experience then it's a reality to them and I'm definitely not in favor of trying to talk people out of their beliefs, however much I might disagree.

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    The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.
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    Funny this thread has come up while I've been watching a DVD with Richard Felix and his UK Ghost Tour.

    For what it's worth, I have seen a ghost - or something that would explain it as a ghost and it scared the crap out of me, but at the same time, gave me comfort that there is something in the afterlife. I can recall the story like it was yesterday and am a rational person who just wasnt expecting what I saw.

    Believing in ghosts has nothing to do with religion at all or the need for something fantastic. But I also believe that some people don't have the (if this is the right word), 'ability' to ever see a ghost.

    If you think ghosts don't exist (and people are welcome to believe what they see until they are proved othewise), take a dog in to a well known haunted location and see how they react. They'll normally chew through their own leg to get out of there.

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    Tell us more Jona (if you wanna)

    I'm a sceptic but open minded all the same (mainly because my missus said she's seen one and when she enquired about it to her parents/grandparents when they were all living together - it was hushed up) besides, she'd kill me if I called her a liar.

    She's been told at a reading that she is 'spiritual/open to these things' without her mentioning it. (though don't get me started on mediums or psychics either ha ha)

    The thing is, I don't necessarily believe that these ghosts or people who have passed on have the choice or not whether they make a re-show. My dad told me he'd show back up if possible, he was very philisophical about his impending death (even arranging his own wake, funeral and thank you verse) , - he hasn't shown so far and it's been 19 years, perhaps a ghost is in turmoil?
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    Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

    By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

    I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

    The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

    To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.

    Interesting story, Cadfael. Thanks so much for sharing it. I would be inclined to think that you really did experience something.

    In regard to your post, Ged, similarly when I toured part of Battlecrease House, the former Maybrick mansion on Riversdale Road, Aigburth, at the time of the 2003 Ripper convention at the Adelphi, the tenant told us that he had experienced something when he drank Stella Artois! A facetious reply, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    The Punch Bowl in Thornton, Sefton is supposed to be one of the most haunted pubs in Britain but the only spirits I've ever seen in there were behind the bar on a shelf. Perhaps only certain susceptible people are privy to seeing them, of which i'm not one.
    Cheers Ged, I'll look into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    Happened around the time of my nan's death. I was taking a drink in the kitchen in our house. We live in a small semi so the downstairs rooms are the lounge and the kitchen/diner is another room.

    By the sink there is a window and the blind was pulled down. The only light that was on was in the lounge and all blinds downstairs were pulled.

    I was the only chap in the house and was getting a drink when going up to bed when I noticed a figure (shadow of a person) move across the window. At first I thought that there was someone outside and they were going to break in (good luck to em!) but then the shadow then moved to the inside wall next to the window - so it would be impossible to be cast from outside directly. There was no one in the house and there was no one walking past outside as the blinds were pulled. I started to go very cold at this point - not because of what I had seen, but the room got cold - I sensed I had seen something strange and naffed off to bed quick time!

    The next night, I set up the blinds like it was the previous night and noticed that I could recreate the shadow when I walked in the lounge but could only cast part of the shadow on the inner wall - whatever it was had clearly either gone through the kitchen or was walking in the lounge casting the shadow.

    To this day I've no idea what it was, but I can tell you that it was the figure of someone's shadow going past me.
    Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?

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    By the way, my proposal was accepted so I'm definitely writing the book now. All help greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
    Thanks for sharing that Cadfael. It's funny just how many people seem to have had these smaller, urban experiences. I think it's stuff that gets written off very often but there must be a reason why people remember these experiences years later. Whereabouts were you living at the time by the way?
    Living in the family home. My nan always wanted to be cremated in our back garden so we scattered the ashes in a dark corner.

    The only other experience that my family have had is that both my grandad and my aunty have seen my late father on two occasions after he passed away in 1983. They were both level and would have not concocted any story to upset us kids if it wasn't true.

    Although ghosts are not to do with religion, I believe in the afterlife purely because I know (or at least want to know) that I'll meet up with my family members again someday.

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    Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe??

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    Quote Originally Posted by verdi View Post
    Have not had any encounters as such myself. But was told about the Madryn street one by the man who it happened to !! It is a interesting and funny story, concerning a wardrobe??
    Really? Is there any chance you could pout me in touch with the man in question or that you could recount his story to me? I've not been able to find much out on that one at all. You can send me a message on here or my email is haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com.

    Cheers.

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    I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

    I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.

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    Ha ha, If the whole story had been changed, then it clearly wasn't your one.

    Unless....... da ra daaaar.

    We now have first hand evidence of ghoulie tinkering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Al View Post
    I don't know if you have written the book or what? I saw a ghost in my old house years ago. It wasn't until some years later that my brother said he saw it all the time. He had never said anything about it until then.

    I did tell a certain Mr Slemen this story but when I read his version, I had changed into a female (ouch) and the whole story had been changed. I don't know the copyright laws but the true story has not been told.
    Did you describe you as some woman out of a fairy tale with gorgeous red hair and a little freckle?
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    Oh dear not put my case very well have I? I meant it was my story but he had tinkered with it no doubt so that I couldn't claim copyright or any credit. As if I would but it is annoying.

    Just the names and locations have been changed to protect ..... well it isn't the innocent put it that way.

    You are Tom S and I claim my five bob!!

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    There is a thread on T.S. read it and his books and determine if any real credibility is to be given.
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    Alright Al, currently putting the finishing touches to the book. Not much room left (especially for stuff that's outside of Liverpool and just in Merseyside generally) but I'd love to hear your story. You can email me at haunted_liverpool@btinternet.com or PM me on here.

    Cheers

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    Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

    Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

    I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.

    Thanks again

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
    Right, I have finished the book; the manuscript and images are winging their way towards the publisher as I type.

    Thanks to everyone here who has helped with Haunted Liverpool, I genuinely could not have written it without your assistance.

    I've set up a blog at www.hauntedliverpool.blogspot.com which has an abridged piece from the book up already. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I hope to get it a bit more sorted quite soon so do keep checking.



    Cheers.
    good stuff.
    Please let us know when it's out!
    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChains View Post
    good stuff.
    Please let us know when it's out!
    Thanks again
    Will do.

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    I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

    Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

    Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).



    Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

    Cheers.

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    I'm also trying to get a launch sorted for late June in the city center. I'd be made up if some you would be interested in coming; the people on this forum have been an enormous help in writing the book and I'm very grateful to all of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by researchwriter View Post
    I am very pleased to report that I am now taking pre-orders for the the special edition of 800 Years of Haunted Liverpool (limited to 26 lettered and 24 numbered copies) featuring an exclusive bookplate by artist Mo Ali and signed by myself.

    Also included is a special bonus article “The Underground Empire of Joseph Williamson” in the form of a handmade booklet signed by myself and its illustrator Leah Moore.

    Each volume costs £9.99 (plus postage and packing).



    Click on the banner above to reserve your copy (books will ship in early July 2008).

    Cheers.
    Be interesting to read your Williamson book seeing as the last one was utter tripe. Did you get your sources from the usual places, Richard WE, Charles Hand, James Stonehouse?

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