Picture of The Day August 2011

[Ged]

It's the much maligned black granite Mann Island buildings Norm. There is currently a photographic exhibition on in there. You are looking out onto one of the old red brick dock buildings near the new museum. The other side looks out onto Mann Island.

[lindylou]

20th Aug.

In the new museum. The model of what would have been the beautiful Lutyens Cathedral.

[az_gila]

That would have kept unemployment down in Liverpool if it was built...

Do you think there was a bit of "My cathederal is bigger than yours" going on?

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi AZ

The proposed Lutyens cathedral was due to be built on the grand scale very much like the Westminster Cathedral in London, which itself was based on ancient models as the website for that important London R.C. church shows. I do think there is a case to be made that the feeling was something should be built to rival the scale of the Anglican Cathedral, especially since Liverpool had such a large Catholic population, it only made sense to do so.

In the end, I am glad that a more modern and sleek building was built instead of the city having two behomeths that in a way would have only bolstered the sectarian rivalry that existed in Liverpool back when both cathedrals, the interrupted Lutyens one and the Gilbert Scott Anglican one, were begun. Liverpool, thank goodness, has never experienced the sectarian violence of, say, Belfast but an in-your-face challenge of mine is bigger than yours would not have helped. Good point, AZ.

All the best

Chris

[Norm NZ]

"Thanks a lot" Ged, your reply is much appreciated.

[lindylou]

21st Aug.
Wavertree lock up.

[Oudeis]

This does not look quite like the Toffee's one and with regard to the other posts above. Does Liverpool need two of everything?

[grekko]

Early morning snack.

Click to enlarge

[lindylou]

St John's Tower/ St John's Beacon, Radio City tower - - whatever you choose call it

[az_gila]

Hi AZ

The proposed Lutyens cathedral was due to be built on the grand scale very much like the Westminster Cathedral in London, which itself was based on ancient models as the website for that important London R.C. church shows. I do think there is a case to be made that the feeling was something should be built to rival the scale of the Anglican Cathedral, especially since Liverpool had such a large Catholic population, it only made sense to do so.

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Chris

I think the intent was more than to "rival the scale" the Anglican cathedral. It would have been ginourmous...

The cathedral, seat of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Liverpool, would have been a massive 530 ft long, larger than any other cathedral in England. The ceiling of the nave would reach 138 ft from the floor, while a great dome, 168 ft in diameter and 300 ft high would crown the church. Aside from the high altar, which would be twelve feet above the floor of the nave, fifty-three side altars would be located down the nave, along the aisles, and in the transepts and apse. The cathedral’s dome would have been larger than St. Peter’s. The entrance arch on the west portal would have been able to contain the tower of Liverpool University. At 520 ft, the cathedral’s height would overpower the nearby Anglican cathedral, itself 330 ft tall. Somewhat ironically, the design of Liverpool’s Catholic cathedral was by Lutyens, an Anglican, while the modern gothic of the city’s contemporary Anglican cathedral, was designed by Gilbert Scott, a Catholic.

Look at the heights mentioned and consider the "visual mass" of both cathederals. Talk about overwhelming.

from here -

http://www.andrewcusack.com/2007/01/...g-never-built/

I scaled two pictures so you can see the "visual mass" of the buildings...

[ChrisGeorge]

I think the intent was more than to "rival the scale" the Anglican cathedral. It would have been ginourmous...

Hey AZ mate

You were the one that said, "Do you think there was a bit of 'My cathederal is bigger than yours' going on?"

I do think to some extent there was something of that going on, in that the Catholic hierarchy could have had the idea of not letting Anglicans be seen as having such a dominating cathedral in a city that they regarded as being "theirs."

Cheers

Chris

[lindylou]

Salt House Tapas, corner of Paradise & Hanover Street, L1

[lindylou]

Liver bird inside the new museum.

[lindylou]

The Nook pub, Nelson st, China town.

[ChrisGeorge]

Nice picture, Lindy!