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    The long awaited opening of the new Museum of Liverpool is upon us with various local media article abound.



    10 OBJECTS TO LOOK OUT FOR

    by Catherine Jones, Liverpool Echo
    Jul 18 2011


    THE new Museum of Liverpool houses many of important pieces of Liverpool history including the last Overhead Railway carriage, the first car to roll off the production line at Halewood, and

    But there are also fascinating, quirky and downright weird objects on show in its galleries too. Here are just 10 (random) attractions to look out for:


    A rowing boat from Sefton Park lake

    ONE for the nostalgics. Look up high above your head in the People’s Republic gallery to see a green-hulled wooden rowing boat.


    The skiff was built around 1930 in Chester and was used on the boating lake in Sefton Park.

    Boating was popular on the lake until the 1970s when the boats were withdrawn for repair but never returned.

    1920s chip range

    THE small (by modern standards) but perfectly-formed range, decorated in Art Deco motifs and covered in blue tiles with a tiled wall behind, came from Openshaw's chippy in Rice Lane, Walton where it fried generations of customers’ chips from 1925 to the early 1980s.

    Coal fires on either side of the range would have heated up its big steel vats.

    It was acquired by National Museums Liverpool in 1981-82 and previously stood in the Museum of Liverpool Life. It has recently been restored.

    Adrian Henri’s gold pants

    ONE of the stranger exhibits in the new museum, a large pair of gold lame pants worn by the late poet and painter Adrian Henri during his ‘happenings’.

    The flamboyant, superhero-style underwear is on show in the Time and Place display on poets in the Wondrous Place gallery.


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    Shankly’s raincoat

    IT was a Shankly trademark, so it’s only fair one of the Scottish footballing legend’s raincoats should find its way into the sporting section of the Wondrous Place gallery.

    The coat, which Shanks often wore to Liverpool games, is on loan to the museum.

    Model of Gerard Gardens

    LONG gone now, Gerard Gardens was a development of (luxurious at the time) tenement blocks built to replace overcrowded slum and court property behind William Brown Street.

    It was demolished in 1987 to make way for road improvements around the Wallasey tunnel.

    This model, made from paper, card, plastic and metal, was created by former resident Ged Fagan and is situated in the People’s Republic gallery.

    Lita Roza’s dress

    OH the glamour! A chartreuse evening dress with pear and sequin decoration, which was designed by Douglas Darnell who also made gowns for Dorothy Squires and Shirley Bassey.

    Lita Roza (1926-2008) was the first British female artist to ever have a UK number one hit, in 1953 with How Much is that Doggie in the Window?

    The dress, with a separate train, on show in the Wondrous Place gallery dates from 1958 and was presented to NML by Lita Roza herself in 2007.

    Professor Codman’s puppet show theatre

    RICHARD Codman first set up a Punch and Judy show in Liverpool in the 1860s, originally in Lime Street and later in Williamson Square.

    The puppet show theatre is now in the Wondrous Place gallery.

    Fleming’s jeans

    WILLIAM Henry Fleming was a Liverpool based importer of cigars and tobacco when he saw potential in the hardwearing denim trousers worn by visiting American sailors.

    In 1881 he started Fleming's Ltd, selling tailored denim clothing which would be a staple for Liverpool people for over 100 years.

    In the 1960s and 1970s, Fleming's jeans were an essential item in any fashionable Liverpool wardrobe.

    The jeans on display are one of two pairs in the museum’s collection, received after a public appeal for people to donate their jeans which led to an avalanche of pairs.

    Bayko model of the Empire State Building

    MECCANO may be more famous, but Liverpool entrepreneurship was also responsible for a toy building material called Bayko.

    The name derived from Bakelite, one of the world’s first commercial plastics.

    Bayko was invented by Charles Plimpton, an early plastics engineer and entrepreneur in Liverpool, and became a worldwide brand between 1934 and 1967.

    The model of the Empire State Building, which features in the Global City gallery, was made at Liverpool’s Plimpton Engineering factory.

    Production of Bayko was taken over by Meccano in 1959.

    Scouse Barbies

    LOCAL people were invited to create an outfit in miniature on a fashion doll to illustrate a ‘Liverpool Look’, with fashion designer Kirsty Doyle commissioned to run open-access design workshops at World Museum to help people create an entry.

    Thirty one of the dolls are on show as part of a display exploring personal identity and the image of the city.



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    Good one,Ged....saves me a trip down there and be dissapointed at its showing of useless tat for a museum.

    Erm! how much did the Museum cost now??

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    Going by the pics on the housing....they certainly don't know how to get a distressed look of the houses back then,looks like a amatuer prop from a westend stage play

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    George, theres plenty more than the list above, get down there yer miserable auld....
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    From FACT in 2005 to the World Museum at William Brown Street, The Echo office atrium, The St. Georges Hall and now the new Museum - it doesn't seem like a 6 year journey.
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    How does those lyrics go now.....

    If you want a museum we've got one to spare.
    In my Liverpool home.

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    I caught a rerun of 'Flog It' recently from Liverpool. The usual break-off to view points of interest visited the museum just before it was finished. Pride of place was taken by an old railway locomotive used in the film The Titchfield Thunderbolt, it began life as the first train on the Manchester to Liverpool line. There will be much of interest to see, I'm sure....once you get passed that 'triangle-town' model, that is.

    [good on you Ged]

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    Posted my museum pics on another thread never saw this thread,sorry
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    I'll be paying a flying visit..
    to see if they are using things belonging to a friend they shouldn't be..


    Outsiders were being brought in and paid a fee to do a feature in this museum.
    2 companies.. both were being paid a fee...
    My friend from the Cavern Days.. a Liverpool 60's legend in his own right..
    was asked to contribute all his work about Liverpool in the 60's.. FOR FREE..
    and these outsiders.. one, a firm from hundreds of miles away..
    nothing to do with Liverpool...were getting paid to use my friends important
    Liverpool memorabilia.. and my friend got f*** all.

    And these people.. who know nothing about the subject..
    would be doing the commentary..on my friends work.
    the man who was in the middle of it all was snubbed to allow no marks
    to talk about his work.. what an insult..

    Yeahhhhh.. sounds about right this new museum to me..
    ran by a gang of Yuppies who know f*** all about Liverpool..
    and have no respect for real work of historical Liverpool importance..
    Or.. the people behind it..

    I hope they see this...
    (No doubt word will get back to them...
    get in touch via PM... send me a phone number..
    I'd love to hear 1st hand why outsiders were being brought in for a fee
    while Liverpool Legends are being taken for a mug..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    I caught a rerun of 'Flog It' recently from Liverpool. The usual break-off to view points of interest visited the museum just before it was finished. Pride of place was taken by an old railway locomotive used in the film The Titchfield Thunderbolt, it began life as the first train on the Manchester to Liverpool line. There will be much of interest to see, I'm sure....once you get passed that 'triangle-town' model, that is.

    [good on you Ged]

    Yes, that was the Lion locomotive which I have photos of from the large objects museum and was once in the basement transport museum in William Brown Street.
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    I can't wait to go next week. It's obviously on a bigger scale than the Liverpool Life Museum, which was brilliant.

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    Hello Ged!

    On the radio this morning, Ken Pye refered to your model as the Bull Ring!!

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    From FACT in 2005 to the World Museum at William Brown Street, The Echo office atrium, The St. Georges Hall and now the new Museum - it doesn't seem like a 6 year journey.

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    Ha ha - good old Ken. One of the Liverpool Historians we are to look up to. Nice book and dvd by him though,



    Well what a fantastic night it was tonight. Mingling with the stars in a champagne reception including Yoko Ono, John Conteh, Ken Dodd and Alexi Sayle. Over 12,000 people passed its threshold today on the opening of the largest National Museum built anywhere in the UK in the last century.


    The official invitation



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    Film Maker, Author and Musician Paul Sudbury pulls a couple of birds.



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    Mike McCartney enters the fray. We got a photo with him at the very end as we had a heart to let him look around first.



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    You can't help feeling that the atrium and massive spiral staircase might be taking up much needed exhibit room but there is plenty to see in the galleries that are currently open.



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    John Conteh, World Light heavyweight champion from 1974-78. I told him I remembered him being on the open air bus with the Liverpool team that passed under the Byrom Street walkway in 1974 when he was the new champion. He said he remembered me too (I made that last bit up)



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    Ex Lord Mayor Steve Rotherham and former Echo and now Mirror sports writer Brian Reade - two good eggs (even if they are reds)



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    Paul with fellow ex Gerard Crescent resident and Liverpool Historian Franny Carlyle and Billy Butler of Radio Merseyside.



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    Yoko Ono gives a T.V. interview in the Wonderous Place gallery featuring Beatles memorabilia.



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    The view looking north from one the massive picture windows.



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    And the view south.



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    I didn't quite manage them all.




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    The Lord and Lady Mayor peruse my model.




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    The model's proud dad. Behind me is a massive blown up photo that fantastic 70s Liverpool photographer Ken Roberts took from the newly opened St. Johns Tower in 1971 depicting just how close Gerard Gardens was to the rear of William Brown Street.




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    Paul with Peter Leeson, maker of the film 'Us and them' and author of the book 'Goodbye Scottie Road' who travelled up with his wife from Leicester and it was nice to see him again. Standing guard over them are the original 'Builder' and 'Architect' statues that adorned the walls of Gerard Gardens. Made of portland stone, they were sculptured by famed liverpool craftsman Herbert Tyson Smith from his studio at the rear of Bluecoat Chambers.



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    Hey up cheeky. This trio have been around a bit. Starting life in the Garden festival they were also in the Museum of Liverpool Life before transfering to here after storage - and not looking a day older.



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    Some football regalia



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    The story of the blues.



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    And talking of the story of the blues - a tenuous link if ever there was one. Meet the two Pete's - Wylie from the mighty Wah and Hooton from the Farm.



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    Phil Redmond and the Echo's Peter Grant. Peter exclaimed they both share the same barber. I said nothing



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    Other writers milling around included David Charters, Ken Rogers and opening presenter Roger Phillips. Also there was ex Bill and now Coronation Street actor Andrew Lancel.


    Colin Wilkinson - author of many Liverpool history books, his most recent being the current local best seller 'Streets of Liverpool'.



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    A brilliant string quartet behind the 3 Graces.



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    A pic of J.C. (No, not that one) with his friend Mr A.S.



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    The not quite red carpet but slightly more pink which suited me



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    I mentioned to Ken that Tarby got the knock back from the opening, he said 'Did he' and I said 'No, Doddy'.




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    And by the way, no, he can't say Ken Dodd's dad's dog's dead either.


    Paul has some other pics on his camera too which i'm waiting on.


    And so, turfed out over 3 hours later at 10 with still so much not even seen so it's back down there at the weekend.




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    It's very blue down there - they must have known I was coming.




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    And not forgetting our 100 year old Royal Liver Building who was celebrating her birthday today.




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    Can't waiting to go and see this. Nice to have the building finally open.

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    Hi Ged,
    NOTHING would draw me to that monstrous new joke of a building. Restoring the festival site figures is maybe a premonition-or omen. Looks like Madame Tussades in Blackpool on a rainy day. See Gerard Fleming and GeorgePorge's posts in the thread, look at the council books at the end of the year, " corporate entertainment & expenses". Could go on but I know we differ on many points, so I'll leave on a positive one, I did enjoy your model of Gerard Gardens.
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    Great pics Ged looks like you enjoyed it all, and I look forward to seeing the museum when it's all up a running....

    don't know why but I always feel a bit nauseous when I see some of the 'celebs'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
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    From FACT in 2005 to the World Museum at William Brown Street, The Echo office atrium, The St. Georges Hall and now the new Museum - it doesn't seem like a 6 year journey.
    Ged fagan sat and there he thought
    how well to use the things he'd bought,
    pots of paint and tubes of glue
    bits of plastic, cardboard too
    Dinky cars ,strips of wood
    assembled well he knew they would
    resemble his old neighbourhood.
    So to the task himself he put
    working hard in sockless foot
    to build a model of his time
    a beauty in the cities grime
    where homes of hope,toil and tears
    would show to man in future years
    the mighty edifice now long gone
    Gerard Gardens marches on.

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    Ha ha Brilliant grekko.
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    Thronged to the rafters again today by all the so called people that are supposed to hate it - pull the other one.

    Some more pics of the exhibits.

    Lutyens cathedral. There is a timeline of how the proposal unfolded arriving at what was eventually built, also a skyline of what Liverpool would have looked like with it. In my mind, although the building is fantastic, it looked too big on the horizon, it would have dwarfed the Anglican.



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    There is a small feature on Fazakerly Cottage homes(which probably could have been better).



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    This model of Everton takes us through 4 eras. I'm surprised it's not covered by a case as kids are trying to pull the buildings off it. Anyhow, you can light up certain local landmarks and hear Peter Morris from Morris's shop talk about the area. His dad's first shop there was in the 1910s then they moved to their present location, next doors cellar which he's shown me was made into a reinforced bunker as the guy was Jewish and feared a German invasion.

    A resident from the 4 squares tenement developement also talks of her time living there as well as others you can listen to



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    There is already a little something on display but I know this will interest Spike.




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    Another shot of the mock court, from a different angle. You can press a button on the court lavatory to hear a fella shout out' Go away (fart) can't you see (brrrrrp) (SLOSH) i'm busy.



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    Mike McCartney says of his exhibition that despite having at least 3 world bodies in art asking to displays his photographs, the icing on the cake was when his home town museum honoured with with asking to exhibit his work. Isn't it just Mike.




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    The mass exodus at 5 to 5.



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    The new plaza outside. When the rest of the surrounding work is completed this will be even better. I'm not sure if you can get over to the Albert dock as yet.



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    We were in the 'mass exodus' at 5 to 5! Didn't arrive till 4 so only saw bits....but we will go back.
    I would have thought the first few weeks they would have had extended hours at weekends at least?

    Anyway...I can't say I like the building much, (it might grow on me! but the 'black slabs' along side look awful! )

    Can't wait to see the 'City Soldiers' gallery...

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    Yes the black slabs are dreadful, the Museum was open until 10pm last weekend, well supposed to be until the lecky conked at 8pm on the saturday then on the Sunday they closed it at 6 in case the overload happened again.
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    Still say it should have been Evertons trophy museum....a lot of space full of junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Yes the black slabs are dreadful, the Museum was open until 10pm last weekend, well supposed to be until the lecky conked at 8pm on the saturday then on the Sunday they closed it at 6 in case the overload happened again.
    Looking for a shilling for the meter?!

    The Chinese section is very good, got bit carried away reading all the info....I might need a few more visits!

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    Lizzie, i've been there 3 times now and still haven't spent more than 5 mins in the global city part due to the crowds which naturally draw the chinese and other foreign tourists into it looking at the connections with Liverpool.
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    Went today. Its ok. It will be good when the first floor is done.

    Too crowded for me, but I shoved my way into the WW1 section. Found my two great grandads listed on the roll of honour.

    I will go back when the kids are back in school. some interesting things there I would like to look at in detail.

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    Yes I did ha ha <blurt> go away <brrrp> can't you see <fart> i'm busy!!!!

    I'm not sure if they'll move the WWI stuff into the soldiers gallery when it opens but I agree there is so much to see and not the space or time to see it in just yet. 120,000 visitors up now - just 1M short of my website ha ha but it won't be long before they overtake it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Yes I did ha ha <blurt> go away <brrrp> can't you see <fart> i'm busy!!!!

    I'm not sure if they'll move the WWI stuff into the soldiers gallery when it opens but I agree there is so much to see and not the space or time to see it in just yet. 120,000 visitors up now - just 1M short of my website ha ha but it won't be long before they overtake it
    Don't worry Ged, another 20 years or so and you'll have managed to finish putting up your small collection

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    120,000 visitors up now
    Yes, all the visitors/enthusiasm is now and on its completion of showing other sections,then in 2 years time the visits will diminish to a few here and few there and joe bloggs will lose interest.

    We didn't need to spend more money on summat that we didn't need.

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    Who is we George - do keep up.

    What you're saying is your opinion anyway, can you please provide the link to these imaginary figures of only a few - there will always be new Scouse people coming through, with the help of new developers and new developements seeing the city up and coming, always be new uptakes from previously outside the city. It's also student land with new uptakes there as well as new and re-visiting tourists.

    I'm sorry but your negative outlook cannot make me feel as proud as punch - let's revel in the fact that the younger generations coming through are not so glum.



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    I'm sorry but your negative outlook cannot make me feel as proud as punch - let's revel in the fact that the younger generations coming through are not so glum.
    Without true figures we can only make assumptions and my assumption is as I stated its new and everyone wants a look to see what the fuss is all about,once this building has been on the map for x amount of years the doors will stop creaking as much as they did in its hey day...its a bit like going to the cinema for the new box office buster...12 months on and the film has lost its ratings and goes into the archives of the past.

    I'm allowed to critique this as you are to relevel in its opening maybe you want people to see your model and gain more popularity? but I myself find the building grotesque and out of place.

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