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    Culture Company Incompetence:

    Seems likely that the recent Mathew Street fiasco could be the beginning of the end for the organisation or members within.

    I for one have cancelled (still waiting for my email ) my Ambassador subscription and will probably bin the 08 card for a start.

    However, lets not let this Comedy act ruin our 2007 birthday etc.

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    I think your right Kev. Looking at the daily post today it looks likely that the Culture Company will be scrapped. The matthew street festival, which is thankfully going ahead will be organised by a hand picked selection of people chosen by the council and will involve no-one from the culture company.
    I don't think I will be cancelling my ambassador subscription though. It's still a great thing that helps to promote 08 and keeps people informed about what is going on.

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    And I was just reaching for my hammer and scissors .

    I'll sleep on it (not the hammer - the canceling of the ambassador if the email doesn't arrive )

    Still might cut up my 08 card though.
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    Default in some senses it's good this has happened

    in some senses it's good that this fiasco has blown the gaff on jason Harborrow, if they'd have cancelled the Klimt exhibition or they dont manage to get Pete Postelthwaite, then they would have disappointed a few people this really highlights some of the attitudes and crap which has been happening over the past year. A lot of people who were critical of the CC were being called Parochial and Whinging whne highlighting some of the inadequacies and jiggery pokery which was going on.

    Well this shows you the senseless useless people running this bag o ****e, head by yhe most sensless and useless of them all. JH

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    I think your right Kev. Looking at the daily post today it looks likely that the Culture Company will be scrapped. The matthew street festival, which is thankfully going ahead will be organised by a hand picked selection of people chosen by the council and will involve no-one from the culture company.
    I don't think I will be cancelling my ambassador subscription though. It's still a great thing that helps to promote 08 and keeps people informed about what is going on.
    Hello AK1 and Kev

    This may be a function of the old story that you can't legislate by committee. In other words, what's really needed is some committed people who can get a job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    The matthew street festival, which is thankfully going ahead will be organised by a hand picked selection of people chosen by the council and will involve no-one from the culture company.
    If the festival is going to go ahead fantastic. But let's not fall for this twaddle that the Culture Company was solely to blame and the Council is going to ride to the rescue.

    THE CULTURE COMPANY WAS SET UP BY, IS OVERSEEN BY AND IS A PART OF THE COUNCIL.

    Warren Bradley, Colin Hilton and Mike Storey are just 3 of the senior council figures on the board of the company. Hilton admitted that he'd known about the problems for 'months'.

    As usual when there is a monumental cock-up, it's a mad dash to get out the smoke and mirrors.

    The same people who are pretending to ride to our rescue are the ones who dropped us in it in the first place.

    Asking Hilton - or any senior Council Officer - to mount an 'independent investigation' of the fiasco is like getting Ronnie Biggs to look into the Great train robbery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrydoyle View Post
    If the festival is going to go ahead fantastic. But let's not fall for this twaddle that the Culture Company was solely to blame and the Council is going to ride to the rescue.

    THE CULTURE COMPANY WAS SET UP BY, IS OVERSEEN BY AND IS A PART OF THE COUNCIL.

    Warren Bradley, Colin Hilton and Mike Storey are just 3 of the senior council figures on the board of the company. Hilton admitted that he'd known about the problems for 'months'. . . .
    Yes okay. Sounds like we knew the bridge was unsafe for years. . . and yes there it goes and collapses.

    Once more, there have to be people who can get the job done, not names on a committee who just generate hot air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Yes okay. Sounds like we knew the bridge was unsafe for years. . . and yes there it goes and collapses.

    Once more, there have to be people who can get the job done, not names on a committee who just generate hot air.

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    Couldn't agree more but it has to be different people. To paraphrase the old saying, 'the definition of insanity is doing things the same way with the same people over and over again and expecting a different outcome!

    These clowns make Spiro T Agnew look like a model public servant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrydoyle View Post
    Couldn't agree more but it has to be different people. To paraphrase the old saying, 'the definition of insanity is doing things the same way with the same people over and over again and expecting a different outcome!

    These clowns make Spiro T Agnew look like a model public servant.
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    I don't know where you are located but Spiro Agnew was probably no worse than a lot of Maryland politicians. As you may know, I live and vote in Maryland. The "graft" or backhanders to politicos is rampant here and thus Nixon's Vice President, Spiro Agnew (former Maryland governor), Maryland Governor Marvin Mandel and Baltimore County executive Dale Anderson all went down in the same probe but they were probably no worse than a lot of other Maryland politicians who have not been exposed for their shennanigans. Thus I worry about the bridges here. . . I do think also that Agnew in a lot of ways was a fall guy for Nixon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrydoyle View Post
    If the festival is going to go ahead fantastic. But let's not fall for this twaddle that the Culture Company was solely to blame and the Council is going to ride to the rescue.

    THE CULTURE COMPANY WAS SET UP BY, IS OVERSEEN BY AND IS A PART OF THE COUNCIL.

    Warren Bradley, Colin Hilton and Mike Storey are just 3 of the senior council figures on the board of the company. Hilton admitted that he'd known about the problems for 'months'.

    As usual when there is a monumental cock-up, it's a mad dash to get out the smoke and mirrors.

    The same people who are pretending to ride to our rescue are the ones who dropped us in it in the first place.

    Asking Hilton - or any senior Council Officer - to mount an 'independent investigation' of the fiasco is like getting Ronnie Biggs to look into the Great train robbery!
    Though the main blame appears to lie with the Culture Company I was more than a bit surprised when Warren Bradley said he was unaware of the problem until so recently. Surely as leader of the council he should be on the ball with these things. Sure he's on holiday but (unless it's a REALLY long holiday ) things should have been in place beforehand.

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    These days there's no such thing as 'out of touch'. I called a lady's Southport number last week. It was transferred; I wasn't even aware of it. I chatted with her as she sunbathed on a lounger, on a cruise ship off the coast of Egypt. Pull the other one, Warren. This is 2007. Not 1937.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iain View Post
    Though the main blame appears to lie with the Culture Company I was more than a bit surprised when Warren Bradley said he was unaware of the problem until so recently. Surely as leader of the council he should be on the ball with these things.
    Part of me agrees and wants to agree however, there's something that is telling me that this Culture Company have been on their own agenda for so long throughout this whole thing doing this and that which has resulted in this nonsense. They've probably been shifty in their approach to being a transparent, accountable organisation. Remember from what has been reported, Warren Bradlley and others attended a meeting on the earlier on and nothing was mentioned about cancelling it, then he goes away and voila!
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    I agree Kev. I genuinelly believe that Warren had no idea about the cancellation. It does seem that for some reason he wasn't kept informed. I find Warren B to be a very genuine person who isn't afraid to speak his mind. I believe him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    I agree Kev. I genuinelly believe that Warren had no idea about the cancellation. It does seem that for some reason he wasn't kept informed. I find Warren B to be a very genuine person who isn't afraid to speak his mind. I believe him.
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    " And what are Everton fans getting ? A glorified cow shed built in a small town outside Liverpool. "
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    I wouldn't suggest for a second that Warren is not a 'genuine person'. I would however suggest that he is woefully out of his depth. Listening to him this evening on the radio I also get the feeling that there are times he doesn't know what he thinks until he hears himself say it.

    Here's the bottom line, I really, really, really don't care if he's a nice person.

    What I do care about is the fact that he's so obviously incapable of providing the leadership that this City needs.

    Speaking his mind is fine, it would be even better if there was some relevant information in it at the time.

    I'm sick to death of hearing Mr. Bradley & his chums spouting lame excuses for being asleep at the wheel.

    Sorry but 'genuine' just isn't a substitute for competent

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    It reminds me of Derek Hatton doing his own thing without telling (was it Hamilton? How easily we forget!).

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    Anyone see the report on NWT on BBC1? Bradley and the Labour opposition spoke about the need to get it back on track. But Mr Harbarrow didn't want to be interviewed.

    Anyone like to see if Mr H lasts till the end of the week?
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    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Condemn repeated failures of Liverpool's Civic Leadership in the run up to Capital of Culture.

    The cancellation of Liverpool's world renowned Mathew Street Festival at what amounts to the 11th hour is the latest in a long line of failures that demonstrates a chronic lack of vision, competence and organisation amongst the city's political leaders and unelected quangos. Failed projects, red tape, poor planning, hair brained appointments, and continued attempts to force pet projects onto local communities regardless of their needs and wishes are just a few items appearing on this list of shame. I ask the Prime Minister to condemn this latest failure, and to urge a fresh impetus of cross-party co-operation. I also ask that an independent enquiry be set up to examine the repeated failures of those in charge, and for them to publically apologise for making the city they represent a laughing stock.

    Finally I ask the Prime Minister to urge visitors not to be put off coming to Liverpool, and to reaffirm we are a welcoming city, despite the failures of our civic leadership.

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    What brasses me off about the Harbarrows of this world is that when they screw up, in the rare instance they lose their post they tend to move up the ladder.
    I am sure there's something akin to an old boys' network out there. There's just too many people, totally lacking in talent, in plum jobs for it to be a coincidence.
    I regularly see 'leaders and advisers to the business community', well paid by quangoes, who have no track record in any business that most of us would identify as such. Furthermore, most couldn't run a whelk stall. But they are paid to tell us how to do it. Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Condemn repeated failures of Liverpool's Civic Leadership in the run up to Capital of Culture.
    petitions.pm.gov.uk/Liverpool-2008
    I have signed and I have sent this for email to some people who lives in UK or r English. I have not got fe to change anything with that, but I agree about try do it...

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    I should yawn at the culture company or who's responsible until they change their ways.
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    Another hail of bullets from the DP's 'Mr Brocklebank'.

    Well said, sir!

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    Overpaid, underskilled third-wits 'living the dream'. Our forefathers must be turning in their graves.

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    I don't always agree with them but I think the standard of writing, the originality and the entertainment value of the Daily Post's writers put some national newspaper columnists in the shade.
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    LIVERPOOL council leader Warren Bradley last night spoke of a “fundamental problem” with the city’s Culture Company as the fall-out over the cancellation of the city’s Mathew Street festival continued. Read

    Cllr Bradley also revealed disciplinary procedures had been started over the collapse of the event and interviews as part of that process had already been carried out.
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    As a result of the appalling Mathew St debacle, we believe that Cover Up and the Harbarrowboy should be given:
    • The Sack
    • A one way ticket to Baghdad
    • A fairly stern ticking off and some sharp words of reprimand from Warren "I'm only a fireman" Bradley
    • Another whacking great pay rise

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    New row over Mathew Street fiasco

    LEAKED minutes from a safety committee show senior Liverpool council officers knew about problems with the Mathew Street Festival three weeks before the council leader was told.

    Minutes from a July 11 meeting of the Safety Advisory Group (SAG), obtained by the Daily Post, show that Colin Hilton, chief executive of the council, was to be advised as a “matter of urgency” about the problems.

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    Officers to blame for fiasco – Bradley

    A rescue bid for the Mathew Street Festival failed to deliver what people wanted yesterday. David Bartlett reports

    LIVERPOOL council leader Warren Bradley last night blamed paid officials for the Mathew Street Festival fiasco.

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    Angry Time to GO "Hopeless" Harborow

    What birthday celebrations have taken place? O something is going on on Tuesday 28th August, bosses are being asked to give the workers a couple of hours off to enjoy the "Celebrations. Rubbish.
    Nothing must detract from the Culture Clubs 2008 plans.
    An indoor street party, a lunch time fire work display, a wine and cheese party, with no wine. And all the time this mess is taking place Jason "Hopeless" Harbrow is taking home a salary nearly the same as The Prime Minister.
    Will "Hopeless" get the sack No, some guy who is leaving at the end of August anyway is sent on gardening leave.
    All the time we are paying for these clowns, you could not make it up.

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    Has Liverpool City Coucil got a 'plan B' shuld this Culture Company hang us out to dry?

    anyway....
    Special investigation: Culture in crisis?

    Jessica Shaughnessy begins our (IC Liverpool) special five-part report into the work of Liverpool Culture Company, the body tasked with making 2008 a success

    THE cancellation of the Mathew Street Festival earlier this month has once again brought unwelcome attention to the door of the Liverpool Culture Company.

    It led to council leader Warren Bradley setting up an inquiry into the actions of the Culture Company and left its chief executive, Jason Harborow, hanging on to his job by a thread.

    Set up with a huge budget to deliver the city’s landmark year as Capital of Culture in 2008, it has all too often been tarnished by negative headlines and a succession of unwanted failures.

    As part of a week-long investigation into the stability of next year’s celebrations, the Daily Post can today reveal:

    * The relationship between the Liverpool Culture Company and one of Merseyside’s most important cultural organisations has significantly soured;

    * The man in charge of the North West’s economic development has put 2008 on his “at risk” list and said he fears it could be too “elitist”;

    * Political figures from Liverpool’s neighbouring boroughs say they are “unprepared and uncertain” about their role in 08.

    Throughout the recent turbulence surrounding the Culture Company, many of Merseyside’s arts organisations have put on a united front.

    But the Daily Post can reveal that National Museums Liverpool (NML) is becoming increasingly disenchanted with 2008.

    The organisation is responsible for the likes of the Walker, the Lady Lever Art Gallery and World Museum Liverpool , and is a key player in making 2008 a success.

    NML was the only one of the city’s top arts organisations, known as the Great Eight, not to sign a joint statement issued by the other seven when Labour leader Joe Anderson sensationally resigned from the Culture Company board in June.

    The museum’s website makes barely a reference to Capital of Culture year, something it should be expected to be shouting from the rooftops, and it does not bear the event’s logo.

    On top of that, one of the only board members of the Culture Company not to attend last week’s emergency meeting to discuss the Mathew Street Festival fiasco was NML chairman Loyd Grossman.

    Insiders say that, behind the scenes, NML management is becoming more and more frustrated as Capital of Culture year nears.

    Although the problems between the museums and the Culture Company are not personal, NML disagrees with fundamental approaches to 2008.

    The Daily Post understands it is trying to distance itself from the unofficial club of supporters, now dubbed the “Magnificent Seven”.

    They include the Bluecoat, FACT (Foundation for Art and Creative Technology), Liverpool Biennial, Liverpool Everyman and Playhouse Theatres, Royal Liverpool Philharmonic, Tate Liverpool and the Unity Theatre.

    One senior figure said: “The reason NML refused to sign the statement following Cllr Anderson’s resignation was because it privately supported some of his criticisms of the council.

    “The other seven organisations wanted to come out and gloss over everything he had said and paint a picture that everything was rosy, but the NML simply don’t believe that.

    “Relationships with individuals at the Culture Company are still very positive, but the people who run NML believe they are trying to do an impossible task.

    ‘THERE is not sufficient direction from Liverpool City Council who are ultimately in control. The witch-hunt for Jason Harborow over the Mathew Street episode is farcical, because at the end of the day, he is just a council officer.

    “Another bugbear is about funding. NML has received the same amount of money from the Culture Company as small arts organisations. It is expected to put on twice as many events for 2008, but for very little money.”

    NML are also said to be disappointed with the lack of inclusivity and believe Capital of Culture should be better used to reach out to communities.

    Last night, NML chief executive David Fleming denied a rift and insisted NML was committed to making sure 2008 is a success.

    HE SAID: “We are pulling out all the stops to ensure the quality of our exhibitions and public and family programming are outstanding for Capital of Culture year.”

    But the concerns expressed by others within NML is shared by others within a variety of organisations in the region.

    North West Development Agency (NWDA) chief executive Steven Broomhead says one of his main concerns is that Capital of Culture Year be more “inclusive”.

    He also said he was anxious that Liverpool’s neighbouring boroughs were able to capitalise on the event.

    But, out in the districts, politicians give an impression of a region very much in the dark.

    Cllr Marie Rimmer, former leader of St Helens Council and NWDA board member, said: “The potential for marketing and exposure for Liverpool, and in turn the whole of Merseyside, is enormous.

    “Personally, I don’t know what the programme is and I think that is a problem. The perception of the public is that there is not much going on. People are very, very nervous.

    “Nobody knows what exactly next year is about, which makes it difficult for neighbouring boroughs to capitalise on it.

    “Each district has nominated an officer, but certainly when I was leader, the communication was not great. There was a point when the themes for the years leading up to 2008 were changed and we were not informed until the last minute.

    “Hopefully, things have improved since then, but there is still the fundamental issue that nobody really knows what is going on.”

    The running theme of a lack of communication has also been noted in Halton.

    “We are on the periphery so it is more difficult to get Capital of Culture at the forefront of people’s minds,” said council leader Tony McDermott.

    “We have a lot of planning to do ourselves, so it is frustrating that we have not been told much about what is going on.”

    With so little time to go, political leaders are reluctant to start pointing the finger and the “official line” often differs from what is said in private.

    But a leading Merseyside tourism figure said: “One of the reasons Liverpool won the bid was because it had the support of the neighbouring authorities.

    “The boroughs are anxious that Capital of Culture delivers the benefits that were promised to them, but the problem is they are sometimes being left out of the loop.”

    In Wirral, Conservative leader Jeff Green said the level of co-operation from the Culture Company had been “disappointing”.

    Cllr Sue Brown, chairman of the Culture and Tourism Committee, said: “I have not been asked to attend any meetings or even been approached by the Culture Company, which is quite surprising.”

    But the Labour leader of Wirral council Steve Foulkes had a more upbeat assessment.

    He said: “There was a lull in planning and communication after the bid was initially won, but we are working very closely with the Culture Company and are completely happy with the communications we have received from chief executive Jason Harborow. He is very enthusiastic.”

    Sefton’s council leader Tony Robertson was also quick to jump to the Culture Company’s defence. He said: “We are working hard to ensure we play as supportive a role as possible; after all, we will all benefit. Certainly Sefton has been very enthusiastic in terms of helping where we can and carrying out our own work for Capital of Culture.”

    Cllr Jack Colbert, on the other hand, says he is disillusioned. “When you consider how important the support of the districts was for the Capital of Culture bid, it is disgraceful how little back we have had since then.”

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    our (IC Liverpool) special five-part report into the work of Liverpool Culture Company
    Ha. The Daily Post aren't letting it drop. Good for them!

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