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    Default Rathbone Street Courts

    My grandfather was born in "5 in 4 Court" off Rathbone Street in 1899.

    I have a map of Rathbone Street around the time but can't identify where exactly 4 Court was.


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    Probably the only way to identify it is to get the 1890 1/500 OS map from the Record Office in the Central Library.
    A smaller scale map will show it, but won't identify it.
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    Have you looked for him in the 1901 census?

    he may still be there and you may find out what street the Court is near.

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    Thanks for that.

    Yes, he was still there in the 1901 census but (doh!) I hadn't thought to look at the preceding pages.

    They don't help immensely, except that 2 Court and 4 Court seem to be next to each other, and then Rathbone Street proper seems to start with number 2.

    I think therefore that 4 Court may be the second court down from the top of Rathbone Street, the long straight one next to the Telephone Exchange. But obviously if anyone has anymore info I'd be so grateful.
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    Rathbone Street: If I am right it was at the top of Brunswick Road near and opposite Grant Gardens. I can only recall that it was waste land by about 1957. Maybe the historians can tell us what exactly happened. In other words was it bombed? in the 1941 May Blitz?

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    Rathbone Street is shown on the map - 2 posts up.
    Georgec. I have the small scale 1890 map and the Telephone Exchange was built on the site of courts, but 4 court would have been at that end.
    As I said, the large scale 1890 map should identify the courts.

    In case anybody isn't sure what courts looked like, they are the smallest buildings, always built back-to-back.
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    Hi,

    I've attached a large scale map from 1849, which names the courts. They were renamed at a later date to Court 1, Court 2, etc. You will need to view the Town Plans of 1890 at the Record Office - Sheets 106.14.19 & 106.14.24 show the courts off Rathbone Street.


    LHS of Rathbone Street
    Garners Terrace
    Victoria Place
    Temple Court
    Gardners Buildings
    James Terrace
    Garners Court No. 3
    Garners Court No.2
    Garners Court No.1


    RHS Rathbone Street
    Heart Court
    Ann Place - entrance off Back Rathbone
    Belshaw Buildings - ditto
    Bethel Place
    Sandon Place
    Creswell Place
    Nile Place


    Mount View
    Dukes Place.
    James Place.
    Hughes Place.
    Mount View Terrace


    See you,

    Tony
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    Many thanks for that.

    I have attached a couple of photos of courts if anyone doesn't know what they were like. The first one is number2 court Mount View, and the other is 1 Court Back Chester Street.

    Imagine living in these!!
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    I have located my ancestors in these streets and courts from 1819 to 1890.
    Thank you for all the info from you fellas on this subject.

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    Default No 4 Rathbone Street

    Can anybody tell where abouts No 4 Rathbone Street may have been in the year 1828 please.
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    Initially Liverpool's streets were numbered differently than today.
    The numbering would start on one side and then run consecutively to the end of that side, then cross over the road and continue (consecutively) to the end, so number 1 would be opposite the highest number in the street.
    The 1803 map (see attachment) is about the only early map to show numbers, and then not all, and it's difficult to figure out if they followed some sort of pattern.
    Notice the numbering on Great George Street. Perhaps Rathbone Street was the same.
    Then look at Rodney Street where the numbers go in a different direction.
    Unfortunately, I've no idea when the system changed to odds on one side and evens on the other.
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    Phil,
    Many thanks at least it helps in some ways.

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    Default 9 in 4: what does it mean?

    I've just found this (old) thread and this forum whilst I'm doing a search for my Dad. His father is listed in the 1911 census as living in 9 in 4 Mount View, Rathbone Street. Can someone explain what the '9 in 4' part means?

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    That'll mean house No.9 in Court No.4
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    Many thanks

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