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    There was an abandoned building not long ago on High Park street but is now flattened, I remember a Royal Engineers badge on the building so i thought it could have been a TA Centre. Does anyone know about this building?.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tockeyhead View Post
    There was an abandoned building not long ago on High Park street but is now flattened, I remember a Royal Engineers badge on the building so i thought it could have been a TA Centre. Does anyone know about this building?.
    Do you mean Upper Warwick Street?
    Just before Prince's Road, near Claribel Street?
    It was a TA Centre (a Drill Hall).
    It was called Crawford House, and in the 1980s, I got the impression it was a place where they did courses.
    I even heard that the Florence Institute from Mill Street moved there.
    Sorry to be rather vague.
    There is a new building on the site, but I don't know what it's supposed to be.

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    The only one I know around here was the one in Warwick street. It was a training centre for the T.A.

    We use to call them the S.A.S (Saturday's and Sundays mob)

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    Re: Crawford House
    A couple of years ago I heard of plans to refurbish the building, but keep the facade. I went up to take a picture, but nothing was left of the original building and the framework of the new building was being erected.
    I have one of those Council magazines that mentions the plans and an artists impression...I'll have to dig it out.
    I think the it ran Y.O.P. training schemes in its' later years.
    Didn't the cadets from the Irish Guards train in that building in the 1970s ?
    There is a website for the new building...
    http://www.crawfordhouse.org.uk/building.htm

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    Here's the architects impression of Crawford House from a Council magazine (issue 5, Summer 03).
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    Thanks Marky.
    I've not seen that before.
    It's a great reminder of what it used to look like, seeing that I never got round to taking photos.
    Is the new building in use yet?
    It all seems very quiet whenever I pass.

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    It's in use...you sometimes see people sitting down, with their backs to the windows.
    It's a pity they didn't keep the original balcony, as was planned.

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    The buildfing is some sort of centre for the muslim community, with some shop outlets inside. The stone emblem that was on the outside of the building is now incorporated in the brickwork inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tockeyhead View Post
    There was an abandoned building not long ago on High Park street but is now flattened, I remember a Royal Engineers badge on the building so i thought it could have been a TA Centre. Does anyone know about this building?.
    There was one on Admiral St near to High Park St. The other was the top of Upper Warwick near Princes Rd and the Irish Guards would train there. The Admiral St building was demolished late 70s/early 1980s. Going from the city centre up Admiral St it was on the right just after North Hill St.

    I recall speaking to an old lady who remembered the troops leaving the building going to France in WW1. They would march down the road with a band playing. She remembered one soldier who had a cat and held it like a bagpipe under his arm with the tail in his mouth. He would bite the tail and the cat would scream - with a bagpipe type of sound.
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    My mate was in the Upper Warwick street T.A. for many years, he's still in it now in Childwall I think. He has been in the 808 medics corp for 30 years and been all over the place including Iraq. We had many a lads night in that place, strippers and curry and rice (but not together)
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    Are you sure it is 808 and not 208.

    Reason I ask is I have never come across an 808 of any kind in the army.
    I think you may mean 208 Genral Hospital RAMC (TA).

    I do know that a Section of 208 Gen Hosp are on 'standby' for the middle east. They may have gone by now.

    Part of my role in the Medics (Regular) was to ensure they had up to date medical eqpt, as far as MOD funds would allow (?).

    I left the Services in 81 so things like Unit numbers may have changed since then.

    To:- 208 >>>> GOOD LUCK Lads and all the best. Come home safe.

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    Sorry Phredd, yes, you are correct 208. He brought back some harrowing memories of people with legs blown off - they were in Basra. Big tent hospitals set up receiving the injured daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    Here's the architects impression of Crawford House from a Council magazine (issue 5, Summer 03).
    Thanks, Marky. The facade of the building -- which unfortunately, as you have reported, was swept away -- reminds me of the similar facade of the Territorial Army HQ on Mather Avenue, Allerton, as I remember it. Maybe they were built at the same time. I suspect so.

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    There's one on Aigburth Road too very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    There's one on Aigburth Road too very similar.
    Aye, you're right, Ged. Thanks for reminding me.

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    Former Drill hall, Upper Warwick Street. This is the only pic I took of this in January 2003. The Florence Institute ran training courses here (until the very early 1990s?). Although the new building retains the same name, and the door openings look similar, take it from me there was nothing left standing of this building.
    Toxteth.net has some directories online for Upper Warwick Street. I've seen similar buildings around...dark brown brick, with white/cream trim.
    There is an even older Drill-hall in the area, still standing...the garage at the corner with Windsor Street. It's been a garage for as long as I can remember, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    Former Drill hall, Upper Warwick Street. This is the only pic I took of this in January 2003. The Florence Institute ran training courses here (until the very early 1990s?). Although the new building retains the same name, and the door openings look similar, take it from me there was nothing left standing of this building.
    Toxteth.net has some directories online for Upper Warwick Street. I've seen similar buildings around...dark brown brick, with white/cream trim.
    There is an even older Drill-hall in the area, still standing...the garage at the corner with Windsor Street. It's been a garage for as long as I can remember, though.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/25632502@N00/978519254/
    Not always a garage at the corner of Windsor St. Calor Gas had the site in the 70/80s. A part of it was a showroom for appliances. Previously it was a garage and also a part was showroom too. I think it was a main dealer so sold new cars - hazy on this.
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    Can we all give a welcome back home to those Soldiers, Men & Lady's of 208 Fld Hosp RAMC who have just returned from HELLman.

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    Yes, Welcome Home 208 ers.

    My mate's wife is now in Afghanistan and when she's back he's due out there next July.
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    Yes, we should welcome them home

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Yes, we should welcome them home
    Here is an example of how to do it. This was taken a couple of weeks ago. It is a father and son returning after duty in Iraq. They were brought into town on a fire engine with lights and sirens, The mayor of our small town welcomed them and presented them with the key to the city.

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