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    Some people view a new home for the club as the star attraction in what will be a 200m regeneration strategy for north Liverpool.

    They argue that never again in this lifetime will such an opportunity present itself to transform an area dominated by an ageing football ground, surrounded by hundreds of terraced homes.

    The new ground, costing 180m, will spearhead a new-look Anfield, with a futuristic Plaza on the site of the existing ground, coupled with a hotel, home improvements and a safer environment.

    Critics argue that one of Britain's great Victorian Parks will be ruined for ever by the arrival of a huge modern stadium and all the ancillaries that go with it - car parks, transport problems, congestion.

    They also argue that politicians have vowed never to sell off parkland areas, the so-called 'Crown Jewels'.

    The counter argument is that the land earmarked for the stadium is already a concrete area used for match day parking.

    The city council's executive board has agreed to the project, though it now faces scrutiny at a council Select Committee later this week.

    The critical issue is whether the New Anfield Vision can be delivered without the inclusion of Liverpool FC.

    The football ground is, both historically and currently, a critical part of the community.

    The next few weeks will determine whether the Anfield dream will be a reality.

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    Once-in-a-lifetime chance for community

    YES SAYS Cllr Flo Clucas, executive member for economic development and a member of the Objective 1 committee

    PART of Stanley Park has been leased to Liverpool FC so that the regeneration plans for Anfield and Breckfield can go ahead.

    Unless there is a new stadium the public funding from Objective 1 and NWDA would be lost to this part of North Liverpool which, as one of the most deprived areas in the country, desperately needs this injection of funding.

    If the stadium does not go ahead, the potential for all that employment, new business and injection of confidence in Anfield and Breckfield is likely to go forever.

    And it is important to to point out that there will be no net loss of green space at all. Much of what is going to be built on is currently a tarmaced car park.

    We consulted 19,000 people on this scheme and a huge majority wanted the club to stay here. It was an enormous consultation.

    The scheme enables us to do what many of the people in the local area want us to do.

    We talk to the people most directly affected by these changes and it is worth noting that of those that made formal objections, some were from Middlesex, Formby and Crosby. Of course, these people have a right to object but I am convinced that the overwhelming majority of local people see this scheme as not just providing a new home for Liverpool FC but as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity of regenerating their community.

    The majority of people who live in the area recognise how vital it is to ensuring young people have a future.

    It will transform Anfield and Breckfield beyond recognition by creating extensive new jobs.

    There will be a hotel complex, the park will have its third lake restored, the Gladstone Conservatory will be restored.

    It will create jobs in heritage, culture and business and make a real difference to people's lives.

    If you look at the area there are a number of things that strike you. There is significant expansion but there is an inability of local people to access quality employment.

    There is the new North Liverpool Academy, but we need to be able to give those young people very real opportunities that will allow them to stay in the local area.

    This is not a decision that we would take lightly. But we must remember that the park is not wholly going out of council control.

    The lease is to the joint venture company that will be 50% city council and 50% LFC.

    For five years this scheme has been developed with the Anfield Breckfield Partnership Forum, which has focused on gaining the best regeneration plan for the area.

    Without the stadium there will be no public sector cash to carry out those plans, which will provide a much-need boost for the area.

    The right plan, but in the wrong place

    NO SAYS Steve Radford, Leader of Liberal Group, Liverpool Council

    EVERYONE in the Save Stanley Park campaign recognises the benefit of a new world-class international stadium for Liverpool Football Club.


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    We want the proposal to be commercially viable, but it must be in the right location with excellent motorway and rail connections. To be commercially viable, thousands more football fans will need to be able to reach the new stadium without becoming trapped in heavy congestion.

    The current plans will add 15,000 extra cars to the most congested and densely populated part of Liverpool. Congested traffic will add to dangerous levels of air pollution.

    We believe the city council has failed miserably to develop alternative, and preferable, sites at Speke, or along the East Lancs corridor.

    The promised park and ride/park and walk" scheme is a delusion - already one of the sites, (Craven Park) has become a housing estate.

    The proponents claim the people of Anfield have voted for this scheme.

    The council voted to hold a referendum in October 2000. Having done so, senior officers and councillors, terrified at the prospect, set about a phoney consultation whereby residents' opinions were claimed to have been reported, only after the reading of a wish list of promises, set to bias the outcome.

    Residents never saw the answers submitted to the council on their behalf, they were not allowed to view the form or sign it proving it to be a correct record.

    The council say they consulted 19,000 homes: not true. They only did 4,102 in Kirkdale, Walton, Breckfield, Tuebrook, Kensington, and Anfield. All the other areas have their own local park, and as such will not be affected by building on Stanley Park.

    We challenge the council to put the issue to a local referendum.

    During the public inquiry against the demolitions the council told the inspector housing renewal was NOT linked to LFC building on Stanley Park, yet every week Lib Dem press releases claim the regeneration of Anfield IS dependent on LFC's proposals.

    The present stadium is 27 metres high, the new stadium will be 78.9 metres high, an increase of 225%.

    A yes vote will give the council and large financial interests the green light to encroach on local parks.

    Walton Hall, Croxteth, Newsham, Sefton, Calderstones and Princes Park, and Otterspool will be under threat.

    We are asking you to vote NO, to save all our parks and ensure a new international stadium is built somewhere else with excellent transport links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    A yes vote will give the council and large financial interests the green light to encroach on local parks.

    Walton Hall, Croxteth, Newsham, Sefton, Calderstones and Princes Park, and Otterspool will be under threat.

    We are asking you to vote NO, to save all our parks and ensure a new international stadium is built somewhere else with excellent transport links.
    Yes, No it should be. This is the thin end of the wedge. Similar with West Waterloo Dock. Let one historic dock be filled in and planning proposals by the week will come in for the rest of them. Same with parks.

    The coucil offered EFC a site in Speke, which was originally offered to LFC. There are countless suitable sites in Liverpool for a large football stadium - Stanley Park is not one of them.
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    Interesting that there is gonna be a hotel. imagine going on holiday to Anfield!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban View Post
    Interesting that there is gonna be a hotel. imagine going on holiday to Anfield!
    It will be either the first 25 day a year hotel or the fastest closure in history of any hotel.
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    Angry LFC and the blighting of Anfield

    Let's face it. If all the new developments promised by LCC and LFC actually come to fruition, then this is a scheme no right-thinking person can oppose. However, LFC do not posses the best recorded of taking an interest in the quality of the community surrounding thier ground. LFC have over a number of years continually purchased houses around the area with big ideas of ground expansion, and then proceeded to allow them to remain derelict for year upon year, bringing down other house prices in the area, and encouraging any decent people to get the hell out as quickly as possible. As environment shapes the people it produces, Anfield has now descended to scum central. Are LFC truly interested in their surrounding community? Or is it simply hyperbole in order to pacify local residents, secure additional funding for the stadium, and get taxpayers to foot the bill for transport links and corporate hospitality facilities around the ground? I suspect the latter.

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    Could be, I would hope that LFC would have to deliver on their promises though with local community regeneration etc.... Once this happens then it could be a catylist for further regeneration, fingers crossed.

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    Welcome to the forum ThinkingScouser.

    As an Anfield resident I can say that you are quite correct in your views - and yes, all the decent people are fleeing away from the deterioration of this area.

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    LIVERPOOL FC today denied it is facing a 48-hour deadline to decide the future of the club's stadium plans. more
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    Liverpool close in on new stadium

    The club aims to start building the stadium later this year
    Liverpool's plans to build a new 60,000-capacity all-seater stadium have moved a step closer after the club secured crucial European funding.
    The European Union Objective One grant of 9m will be spent on regenerating the area around the Stanley Park site.

    Liverpool were given the money after guaranteeing that the 180m funding for the entire project is in place.

    They can now claim 5m from Liverpool City Council and 8.9m from the Northwest Regional Development Agency.

    The city council approved a 999-year lease on the stadium site - which is 300 yards away from Anfield - on 8 September.

    Planning permission for the scheme came with the proviso that investment would be made in the surrounding area, including the park.

    The European money will not be spent on the new stadium but on schemes such as the creation of a shop-lined plaza on the site of their current Anfield home.

    Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry said: "It's another significant step forward in our plans for the building of a new stadium, which we have always seen as a catalyst for the regeneration of the whole area."

    Councillor Flo Clucas, chairman of the Objective One project selection sub-committee, added: "This is a major step forward for the people of Anfield.

    "It will underpin substantial investment by other partners, whose commitment will help transform the neighbourhood."

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    Like the cooobraaa, they should strike and build now!
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    Rush for a new Anfield


    LIVERPOOL could be in the hands of Dubai International Capital (DIC) by early February at the latest.

    A confidential update on the 450m takeover of the Reds outlines a rigid programme to conclude the deal and immediately start building a Liverpool FC for the 21st century.

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html

    It looks like a new ground is a nailed on certanty now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    Rush for a new Anfield


    LIVERPOOL could be in the hands of Dubai International Capital (DIC) by early February at the latest.

    A confidential update on the 450m takeover of the Reds outlines a rigid programme to conclude the deal and immediately start building a Liverpool FC for the 21st century.

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html

    It looks like a new ground is a nailed on certanty now.

    I would think so too. Of that 450 million, only about 150 million is for control of the club, the rest is to clear debts and build the stadium.

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    Takeover of Liverpool 'imminent'

    Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry says he expects the club's takeover by Dubai International Capital to be completed "relatively quickly".
    "A huge amount of work has been going on, we'll have something to say soon," he told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek.

    "Yes, the deal is looking positive and yes, I'm confident it will go through. This will take us to the next level.

    "But it's not a quick fix, a rich man's plaything. It's a long-term model for success, based around the new stadium."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6260399.stm

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    Liverpool One group favourite for stadium

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    THE construction firm which is already building Grosvenor's Liverpool One project is favourite to win the contract to build Liverpool FC's new Stanley Park stadium.

    Laing O'Rourke said it was in talks with the Premiership club - on the day the club agreed a sale to two American sports moguls in a 450m deal.

    A source at the firm last night said: "We are in discussions with the club about the build. We are in talks, but no contract has been signed." Multi-millionaires George Gillett and Tom Hicks yesterday became the new owners of the club.

    Work on the new ground could commence within weeks.

    Rick Parry, chief executive of Liverpool, said the pair "made clear their intention to move as quickly as practicable on the financing and construction of our proposed new stadium at Stanley Park".

    He added: "This has been an important time for the club. We now have the right partners for the future. I am absolutely certain we have now ended up in the right place, with owners who will help the club succeed and prosper."


    Laing O'Rourke also built the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, which was opened in October 1999. It took two years to build and has a retractable roof.


    Laing O'Rourke Building North is the division that would undertake the building of the Stanley Park stadium, if its bid is successful. The division is currently building Grosvenor's 920m shopping complex in Paradise Street, known as Liverpool One, as well as the new stand at Aintree Racecourse.


    Other Laing O'Rourke divisions have built the new Ascot Racecourse, the Snow Centre in Dubai and the Cardiff International Sports Centre.


    Based in Dartford, Kent, Laing O'Rourke is the largest privately owned construction firm in the UK. The company has offices in Germany, India, Australia and United Arab Emirates, with over 23,000 employees worldwide. Led by chairman and chief executive, Ray O'Rourke, the business has grown rapidly since the merger of Laing and R.O'Rourke & Son Ltd in 2001.


    The company's Construction North Liverpool Office is situated at Columbus Quay, Riverside Drive
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    Hicks and Gillett want to review the stradium design, but the council has warned any major changes will have to be agreed with planners.

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    New stadium plans go on display


    Plans for Liverpool Football Club's new stadium and the regeneration of Stanley Park are to go on show.
    Residents are being asked for their views on the proposals for the park, which houses the Isla Gladstone Conservatory.

    Liverpool FC's new owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks agreed to make funds available to build the new stadium as part of the purchasing deal.

    The exhibition is at the Vernon Sangster Sports Centre.

    The Stanley Park work is part of wider plans for New Anfield and Breckfield.

    The 215m project is expected to bring new community facilities, jobs, homes and business to the area.

    The exhibition will be open on 26 and 27 February.

    Councillor Berni Turner said: "This will be a chance for residents and others to see what the Stanley Park of the 21st Century will look like.

    "It involves major works in restoring the park to a standard which will make it one of the leading recreational spaces in the region."

    The wider regeneration project will be one of the largest urban parks restoration schemes in the country.

    It involves the repair and restoration of the park's structures including bridges, walls, pavilions and the park lodge.

    The new 60,000-seater stadium includes a Community Partnership Centre, a replacement for the Vernon Sangster Sports Centre.

    It is due to open at the start of the 2009/10 Premiership season.

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    Here's a good website for you reds,it has images to click on and information on the new stadium.Under stadium info it says the new ground can be extended in the future which is great news.

    http://www.newanfield.co.uk/designs.html

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    Thats a great site and good to see at least things are happening with the ground tests today and Vernon Sangster to be demolished 16th March. Somehow I cant see them ever getting planning permission to expand unless there's some major transport improvements.

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    What's this I'm hearing that the new American owners want to cancel the planned stadium in favour of lookin' at an 80,000 seater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    What's this I'm hearing that the new American owners want to cancel the planned stadium in favour of lookin' at an 80,000 seater?
    Just found this on the Radio City website:

    http://www.radiocity.co.uk/Article.a...port&id=368511

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    80,000 sound good to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    80,000 sound good to me
    Would the transport infrastructure cope with the extra capacity?

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    Just flatten a bit more of stanley park, that should do the trick, i'm kidding of course - good point, where would the extra parking go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Just flatten a bit more of stanley park, that should do the trick, i'm kidding of course - good point, where would the extra parking go?
    Underground?

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    The BBC report is playing it down, saying a review is taking place including ways of increasing capacity is taking place but completion in 2009 is still the target. I really cant see how it can go to 80,000 without a total redesign and fresh new planning application and even then, would be amazed if the council agree to that capacity.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6450893.stm

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    Liverpool get groundshare request

    Liverpool's new owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have been asked by city council leaders to look again at sharing their new stadium with Everton.


    Liverpool hope to increase capacity
    at their planned new stadium


    The American tycoons want to make Liverpool's proposed new stadium bigger than the planned 60,000-capacity.

    Liverpool have always ruled out sharing with Everton but council leader Warren Bradley wants them to reconsider.

    He told the Liverpool Echo: "If they can consider an increase in size, why can't they consider a shared stadium?"

    Liverpool have yet to confirm the decision to suspend preparatory work on the 215m project in Stanley Park, but have revealed a review will be undertaken.

    And Bradley, a Blues season-ticket holder, feels Hicks and Gillette could be persuaded to allow Everton to share the new ground.

    He added: "They have got their guys (Dallas firm HKS) looking at designs, infrastructure and everything.

    "Are you telling me a commercial business in America doesn't sweat the asset? They sweat that asset until they can't get any more out of it.

    Everton are considering moving to a new site outside Liverpool in Kirkby but Bradley also thinks redeveloping their current home Goodison Park should not be ruled out.

    "I think in a few years' time they'll be playing in a new stadium and I think it will be in Liverpool," Bradley explained.

    "I would be happy with a joint stadium, I've got to be honest, but my gut feeling is probably not.

    "I don't see any reason why Goodison Park can't be redeveloped. You could quite easily fit an additional footprint and some commercial activity - a hotel, for example - into a new development."

    Source: BBC SPORT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    Liverpool get groundshare request

    Liverpool's new owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have been asked by city council leaders to look again at sharing their new stadium with Everton.


    Liverpool hope to increase capacity
    at their planned new stadium


    The American tycoons want to make Liverpool's proposed new stadium bigger than the planned 60,000-capacity.

    Liverpool have always ruled out sharing with Everton but council leader Warren Bradley wants them to reconsider.

    He told the Liverpool Echo: "If they can consider an increase in size, why can't they consider a shared stadium?"

    Liverpool have yet to confirm the decision to suspend preparatory work on the 215m project in Stanley Park, but have revealed a review will be undertaken.

    And Bradley, a Blues season-ticket holder, feels Hicks and Gillette could be persuaded to allow Everton to share the new ground.

    He added: "They have got their guys (Dallas firm HKS) looking at designs, infrastructure and everything.

    "Are you telling me a commercial business in America doesn't sweat the asset? They sweat that asset until they can't get any more out of it.

    Everton are considering moving to a new site outside Liverpool in Kirkby but Bradley also thinks redeveloping their current home Goodison Park should not be ruled out.

    "I think in a few years' time they'll be playing in a new stadium and I think it will be in Liverpool," Bradley explained.

    "I would be happy with a joint stadium, I've got to be honest, but my gut feeling is probably not.

    "I don't see any reason why Goodison Park can't be redeveloped. You could quite easily fit an additional footprint and some commercial activity - a hotel, for example - into a new development."

    Source: BBC SPORT

    Just how many times do the Blues need to be told to get the message -LIVERPOOL ARENT INTERESTED IN A GROUND SHARE.

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    Maybe they are now, who knows? Seems a coincidence Liverpool's has been deleyed, then they get another share request.
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