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    Yet another delay! We have gone from the stadium not happening, to it actually being built, to it being stopped again. The people that are losing out yet again are local residents. This delay in building the stadium has also delayed any regeneration that can take place in the surrounding area.
    Warren Bradley confuses me. When the takeover was announced he said that the council where pleased and where eager to get started on regeneration works in Anfield. Then yesterday he throws in this proposal which will innevitably delay regeneration and the stadium further.
    I personally think that the fans have made there stance on this issue very clear, we don't want a ground share. I think that Everton fans are starting to warm to the idea of moving to kirkby as it is still the Liverpool City Region and is seen as Liverpool by many peolple. I just hope that the new owners throw out this idea and press ahead with the new stadium.

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    If Everton move out of Liverpool, then I can just imagine the taunts from Liverpool fans that Everton have deserted the city. Kirkby and anywhere else that doesn't pay Council Tax to Liverpool City Council, are clearly not in Liverpool. The funniest place I could think for them to move to would be 'Anfield' after Liverpool move out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    The funniest place I could think for them to move to would be 'Anfield' after Liverpool move out.

    No chance!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteH View Post
    Just how many times do the Blues need to be told to get the message -LIVERPOOL ARENT INTERESTED IN A GROUND SHARE.

    It was a councillor speaking not the Everton fans, dont care if he is an Evertonian. he dont speak for us.


    Just how many times do the Reds need to be told to get the message- WE DONT WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU LOT.

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    Exactly Tony. I thought the message you replied to was a bit conceited. Us Blues don't need to be told anything. At the end of the day it's up to Hicks and Gillette, they'll do what any developer does, think of their own pockets.

    For me, Kirkby, which is approximately 2 miles from Goodison is nearer than many other places in 'Liverpool' that could be touted. It's full of ex Scottie roaders, try telling them they're not in Liverpool just because admin boundary changes occurred in 1974 and they pay their taxes to Knowsley now.
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    There is a feature in today's Echo about it. Both sides have played down the suggestion and Liverpool seem pretty sure they don't want it.

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    I'm glad to hear it,we have two big teams that deserve two great stadiums.

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    Think Bradley is out of order myself. He's clearly abusing his position to try and influence the Americans. He knew what impact the piece in the Echo would have and is desperatly trying to keep the option open.

    Rick Parry has told him on more than one occasion that we will never share with Everton "over our dead bodies" in fact.

    Sorry Ged, Kirkby is at least 4 miles from Goodison. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think the Blues should jump at the chance of their own stadium with better facilities. The traditions of the game have long gone anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryB View Post
    Think Bradley is out of order myself. He's clearly abusing his position to try and influence the Americans. He knew what impact the piece in the Echo would have and is desperatly trying to keep the option open.

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    I agree and im a Blue.

    I think he should pack it in and start shouting for the council to get behind Everton`s new ground the way they supported Liverpool`s. lets do up Goodison and stay put.

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    To be fair, they did give you a lot of support with the Kings Dock stadium. Not sure what went wrong there.

    There's only so much they can do for you without any real funding or a business plan for a stadium in the city. Tesco have obviously targeted that specific site in Kirkby, and without any real investment to build on a site offered by Bradley, that's about your only option.

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    Yes, measured it in my A-Z, it's 3 miles up Wally Hall Avenue to Gillmoss ind Est and a further half a mile to the M57 Kirkby. As the crow flies though to the new site 3.8 miles. Imagine for arguments sake they bought Aigburth cricket ground they'd be moving over twice as far but that would be alright because it'd be in ''liverpool'' wouldn't it.

    I think the road and rail links to Kirkby would be great, far better than what both sets of fans have to put up with currently. I see cars parked as far away as Lambeth Road and Fountains Road for Liverpool games and in Bootle and by the old Mons at Everton games.
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    I wonder if Bradley is making a veiled threat that if Liverpool want council planners to consider an increase in capacity then they'll have to be willing to share. I'm sure the people living in the area will be made up with that - 80,000 every week instead of 60,000 every fortnight.

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    Don't think he's any position to make veiled threats, or he could end up having no football clubs in the city at all. I doubt the Americans will be as easy going as Davy Moores and Rick Parry.

    It angers me to be honest. If this was any other city in the world the stadium would have been built now, especially for one of its prized assets. The Red tape we've had to go to to get to this stage has been unreal, and it's still going on.
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    Gillett wants 'expandable' new stadium
    Apr 1 2007

    Liverpool co-owner George Gillett wants room to expand when the Reds go ahead with their plans to build a new stadium.

    Former chairman David Moores and the board had gained planning permission to build a new stadium in nearby Stanley Park, but Gillett and fellow co-owner Tom Hicks are looking at ways the stadium can be improved within the accepted proposal - most crucially that there is an option to increase capacity should they want to in the future.

    Gillett said: "To be competitive we must be patient because any decision we make today will have to last for 50 or more years. And so with this in mind we want to be very cautious. What I am asking for is that everyone shows patience and gives us a little time. We have to be very mindful and respectful of the planning process."

    He added: "There is a plan in place for which approval has already been granted and we have to operate to the extent we can within that process and approval. Decisions about modifications will be taken very carefully. What we want to do is build a stadium that will comply with the seating capacity approval but be expandable. As the fans demand more seats we want to be able to give them to them."

    The original proposal was for a 60,000-seater stadium, but Gillett clearly has in mind a desire to eventually have a ground rivalling Old Trafford in size.

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    It makes sense to ensure that whatever they build doesnt have a finite capacity considering it'll still only be 75% the size of Old Trafford.

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    I'll believe it when I see it, but work is now set to start in May with actual construction starting in July, although the anticipated completion is now 2010.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6517517.stm

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    Final whistle on shared stadium
    Apr 2 2007
    by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

    A SHARED stadium for the city’s two football clubs was today killed off for good.

    Council leader Warren Bradley resurrected the idea last week when he told the ECHO he would support it.

    But in announcing that work would start on the new Anfield in May, Liverpool FC said there was no chance of Everton becoming involved.

    A joint statement by the Reds and the city council said that despite “full and frank talks” about stadium sharing, it had “too many unknowns” and would cause “significant delays”, putting the entire redevelopment of Stanley Park and the Anfield area at risk.

    Today’s announcement made it clear that Liverpool are fully committed to their own £215m project, despite the ongoing review of the proposal by their new American owners. It says:

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    There's a couple of grainy pictures of the New Anfield on SSC,it looks awesome.

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=240309

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    Trying to get hold of some better pics, but won't post them if i do. A few people have been warned about legal action. Think the new application goes in next week.

    A few people i know said they had a likeness to something Frank Gehry would design.

    Since i've only seen those two and no others i have no idea.

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    Looks fantastic, really hope that it gets built.

    No other stadium in the world looks like that.

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    KOP THAT UNITED
    EXCLUSIVE New owners are planning Britain's biggest stadium


    LIVERPOOL are set to unveil plans that will make their new stadium the biggest in British club football.

    American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett will submit a revised design to the local council later this month for a 60,000- capacity ground which could eventually hold 80,000.

    That expansion will eventually make the stadium bigger than Old Trafford.

    AdvertisementLiverpool co-owner Tom Hicks said: "The city council's planners will receive the final plans on July 25.
    "The initial capacity will be the 60,000 previously approved, but the design will accommodate an eventual capacity in the high seventies."

    Manchester United can fit 76,000 fans into Old Trafford but further expansion would be difficult. So the news that Liverpool are planning a £250m home which could dwarf that of their biggest rivals will delight Anfield fans.

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    Good news

    Liverpool have over 60,000 people on the season ticket waiting list so building a stadium that couldn't be made any bigger didn't make sense.

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    THE ECHO can today reveal the detailed timetable to deliver Liverpool FC’s
    new stadium.

    Anfield officials have delivered precise plans to the city council which
    would lead to work starting in Stanley Park by the end of the year. Despite
    calling back the bulldozers who were due to start work in May, the club is
    confident the 60,000-capacity stadium will still be ready for the start of
    the 2010 season. The £280m project’s new timescale was revealed today as
    city officials waited for the club to unveil its redrawn proposals for New
    Anfield.

    Reds’ owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks decided to go back to the drawing
    board after buying the club to see if stadium capacity could be increased
    beyond 60,000. As revealed in Monday’s ECHO, the American owners intend to
    retain the original capacity, but redesign it significantly so it can be
    expanded later. Now Liverpool council is being given a firm timescale which
    the club hopes to stick to. It would mean:

    A planning application being lodged on July 25.

    The council granting planning permission by the end of October.


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    Government officials agreeing not to intervene by the end of November.

    Work starting at the end of the year.

    Councillors will also be asked to agree a 999-year lease for the site to new
    company Stadco, which is being set up by Liverpool to develop the ground.
    The club would have to pay rent of £300,000 a year. Plans to refurbish the
    rest of Stanley Park have not changed, although a proposal to convert the
    Isla Gladstone conservatory into a facility similar to Sefton Park’s palm
    house has now emerged.

    Cllr Berni Turner, executive member for the environment, said: “We are
    thinking about something like a cafe bar, which would be available for
    weddings, funerals and bar mitzvahs.”

    Rent money received from Liverpool, along with £350,000 a year from the
    council’s own budget, will be used to maintain the park and conservatory for
    years to come. The plans will be discussed by councillors at a meeting next
    week.

    The timetable

    JULY 25 , 2007 – this is the date that Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks says the
    revised plans will be submitted to Liverpool council, a month later than
    originally planned.

    OCTOBER 2007 – the council will then face a race against time to re-examine
    the proposals and decide whether to grant planning perm-ission. To meet this
    deadline, the club will have to make sure the scheme is not dramat-ically
    different to its predecessor in terms of capacity and impact on the
    surrounding area. The original scheme was approved in summer 2004.

    NOVEMBER 2007 – possibly the most crucial date. The government office for
    the north west will have to decide whether Liverpool’s plans should be
    “called in” for further investigation, sparking a public inquiry. This would
    delay the scheme by several months.
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    I posted pictures of the stadium weeks ago in the appropriate thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    I posted pictures of the stadium weeks ago in the appropriate thread.
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    Have I moved Mouse's post to the right thread? If not do you want to direct us to the thread where you posted the pics (I assume you might mean the "grainy" photographs you referenced up above)... in which case we can delete our last two posts, yours and mine. Thanks.

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    Yes that grainy picture was removed off a load of forums at the request of Liverpool F.C,it's supposed to be genuine but nobody can say for sure.It's in the Liverpool's new stadium thread somewhere.

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    First pics of the new stadium will be shown on Wednesday at 11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy78 View Post
    First pics of the new stadium will be shown on Wednesday at 11 AM.
    It sounds like the miserable b#ggers on Liverpool city council are making Liverpool stick to the 60,000 that was aproved earlier.
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    60.000 to start off with, but unlike the other design of the new stadium this one can be made much bigger over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse mouse View Post
    It sounds like the miserable b#ggers on Liverpool city council are making Liverpool stick to the 60,000 that was aproved earlier.
    This new planning application was only ever going to be for 60,000, with the idea they'd apply again in furture for extensions. The council have hinted extra capacity would only be granted if infratructure improvements take place, such as opening a station on the freight line that runs cross Utting Avenue near Cherry Lane.

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