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    Here's pictures of the mass grave in Anfield Cemetery of 554 unknown victims of the Blitz.

    Kev - move this to the Graveyards thread if you think its more appropriate there.
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    A P51 Mustang being towed from the Pier Head to Speke passing the bottom of Water Street, Liverpool, 1944

    This was posted on Military images.

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    It's a great photo, but is it being towed to the Pier Head, rather than from it?
    Where's the towing vehicle?

    I ask because I wonder if they were made at Speke, and then shipped by river?
    (Having said that, why not use Garston Docks?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    It's a great photo, but is it being towed to the Pier Head, rather than from it.
    Where's the towing vehicle?

    I ask because I wonder if they were made at Speke, and then shipped by river?
    (Having said that, why not use Garston Docks?)
    That's a Pearsons job if ever I saw one. The truck in front of the aircraft is the one doing the towing. Recognise it from the pictures I have that are going in the Pearsons book.

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    I thought it was turning left into Water Street.
    I can see now it's not, and I can see the truck, part hidden by the tram.

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    That was a familiar scene when I was a kid living in the Tennie's (Speke Rd Gdns) there used to be convoys of them being towed to Speke Airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebby1954 View Post
    That was a familiar scene when I was a kid living in the Tennie's (Speke Rd Gdns) there used to be convoys of them being towed to Speke Airport.
    That would make sense if the planes where made in the U.S. shipped here in convoys, then made flight ready at speke, then flown to there dispersal air field's.
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    I think that's the most likely theory. As far as I know they weren't produced in England so it's very likely they were brought over part-assembled and finished off at Speke.

    Fantastic photo...

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    'Correct' both of you! they were 'finished off' at the Rootes Aircraft Factory ,which was situated close to Speke airport, (Rootes later became the Dunlop Factory) then once completed they were 'wheeled' across Speke Hall Avenue into the airport where they were then flown off to various other bases. As Ebby, I too remember them all being towed down Mather Ave., then Speke Road to the Rootes Factory. Guess that they could'nt be 'shipped' to Garston Docks because of tidal conditions.

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    There were also a lot of planes assembled at Burtonwood. My father used to work there, and the planes would arrive in pieces or crates from the docks. I recall him telling me that most of the workers were unskilled in aircraft work and his job was correcting the errors in the assembly process.


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    I can just make out:
    EWS 50 Yards -->
    (EWS= Emergency Water Station)
    Edge Lane/ Needham Road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm NZ View Post
    'Correct' both of you! they were 'finished off' at the Rootes Aircraft Factory ,which was situated close to Speke airport, (Rootes later became the Dunlop Factory) then once completed they were 'wheeled' across Speke Hall Avenue into the airport where they were then flown off to various other bases. As Ebby, I too remember them all being towed down Mather Ave., then Speke Road to the Rootes Factory. Guess that they could'nt be 'shipped' to Garston Docks because of tidal conditions.
    Norm, Here's a photo pf the planes on Allerton Rd just about to enter Mather Avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    Norm, Here's a photo pf the planes on Allerton Rd just about to enter Mather Avenue.

    Photo from Liverpool Echo
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
    No, but that's the Plaza cinema they're passing.
    Yates's Wine Lodge (formerly Tesco) is now on the site of the cinema.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
    Ill ask my resedent aircraft expert.
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