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    I can't imagine how life must have been for the people of Liverpool between 39-45. I can still recall playing in the bombdies in the early 60s.
    Picture scanned from "Bombers over Merseyside - The Authoritative Record of the Blitz 1940-41" Liverpool Daily Post And Echo Ltd. 1943


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    My Mum was evacuated to N. Wales in WW2, but my Dad stayed in Liverpool. He told me he had the time of his life. After the bombings, him and his mates used to looking for shrapnel
    Kids eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    I can't imagine how life must have been for the people of Liverpool between 39-45.
    My mother could imitate the sound of a German bomber dropping its load. The engines raced as the plane became lighter. When the engines raced you ducked and prayed.

    Early in the war, my Dad saw the occasional dog fight over the Mersey. Liverpool had more homes destroyed in percentage than London. Bootle was the most bombed town in WW2. Canada Dock the most bombed square mile.

    Liverpool was poorly defended with a few night fighters while London had most. London was a less important target as it was a propaganda target while Liverpool was a strategic target - the Atlantic convoys. London Docks closed down and the London dockers and their families taken to Clydeside. Half the Liverpool Docks were out of action in the May Blitz 1941. The Germans never knew this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    I can't imagine how life must have been for the people of Liverpool between 39-45. I can still recall playing in the bombdies in the early 60s.
    Picture scanned from "Bombers over Merseyside - The Authoritative Record of the Blitz 1940-41" Liverpool Daily Post And Echo Ltd. 1943
    Great picture, Dave. My grandparents in Mossley Hill had that very book but I fear it went the way of all flesh and it is lost to me now. Pity.

    Also, thanks, Waterways, for your information on the Blitz.

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    ....and some more.....
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    Widnes Home Guard
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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Widnes Home Guard
    They would frighten anyone
    My Grandad, George T. Matchett, served as a Sergeant in the Home Guard in Liverpool. He had been in the Lancashire Hussars and the Lancashire Fusiliers in World War I. Between the wars he obtained work with the GPO telephones, a position from which he retired as a manager in the 1950's.

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    ...and some more.........worth a read
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    Hi Kev

    Wonderful material, Kev. You had better tell us where exactly you are getting this stuff though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Kev

    Wonderful material, Kev. You had better tell us where exactly you are getting this stuff though...

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    Thanks, Kev, the typescript pages look like an official wartime diary of the Blitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Thanks, Kev, the typescript pages look like an official wartime diary of the Blitz.

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    Another good book on the Blitz is "Port in a Storm" by John Hughes. I picked up a copy at the Albert Dock book store last year.
    It is a blow-by blow account of the May 1941 raids on the docks, and ships in the river. After reading this I wonder how we survived.
    Even though I was only 6, I have some vivid memories of the time.

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    Thank you, Cissie and EdF for those good leads!

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    Here's pictures of the mass grave in Anfield Cemetery of 554 unknown victims of the Blitz.

    Kev - move this to the Graveyards thread if you think its more appropriate there.
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    A P51 Mustang being towed from the Pier Head to Speke passing the bottom of Water Street, Liverpool, 1944

    This was posted on Military images.

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    It's a great photo, but is it being towed to the Pier Head, rather than from it?
    Where's the towing vehicle?

    I ask because I wonder if they were made at Speke, and then shipped by river?
    (Having said that, why not use Garston Docks?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    It's a great photo, but is it being towed to the Pier Head, rather than from it.
    Where's the towing vehicle?

    I ask because I wonder if they were made at Speke, and then shipped by river?
    (Having said that, why not use Garston Docks?)
    That's a Pearsons job if ever I saw one. The truck in front of the aircraft is the one doing the towing. Recognise it from the pictures I have that are going in the Pearsons book.

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    I thought it was turning left into Water Street.
    I can see now it's not, and I can see the truck, part hidden by the tram.

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    That was a familiar scene when I was a kid living in the Tennie's (Speke Rd Gdns) there used to be convoys of them being towed to Speke Airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebby1954 View Post
    That was a familiar scene when I was a kid living in the Tennie's (Speke Rd Gdns) there used to be convoys of them being towed to Speke Airport.
    That would make sense if the planes where made in the U.S. shipped here in convoys, then made flight ready at speke, then flown to there dispersal air field's.
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    I think that's the most likely theory. As far as I know they weren't produced in England so it's very likely they were brought over part-assembled and finished off at Speke.

    Fantastic photo...

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    'Correct' both of you! they were 'finished off' at the Rootes Aircraft Factory ,which was situated close to Speke airport, (Rootes later became the Dunlop Factory) then once completed they were 'wheeled' across Speke Hall Avenue into the airport where they were then flown off to various other bases. As Ebby, I too remember them all being towed down Mather Ave., then Speke Road to the Rootes Factory. Guess that they could'nt be 'shipped' to Garston Docks because of tidal conditions.

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    There were also a lot of planes assembled at Burtonwood. My father used to work there, and the planes would arrive in pieces or crates from the docks. I recall him telling me that most of the workers were unskilled in aircraft work and his job was correcting the errors in the assembly process.

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    I can just make out:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm NZ View Post
    'Correct' both of you! they were 'finished off' at the Rootes Aircraft Factory ,which was situated close to Speke airport, (Rootes later became the Dunlop Factory) then once completed they were 'wheeled' across Speke Hall Avenue into the airport where they were then flown off to various other bases. As Ebby, I too remember them all being towed down Mather Ave., then Speke Road to the Rootes Factory. Guess that they could'nt be 'shipped' to Garston Docks because of tidal conditions.
    Norm, Here's a photo pf the planes on Allerton Rd just about to enter Mather Avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    Norm, Here's a photo pf the planes on Allerton Rd just about to enter Mather Avenue.

    Photo from Liverpool Echo
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Anyone know the aircraft type.
    Ill ask my resedent aircraft expert.
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