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    Default Old postcards of Aigburth Rd and Sefton Park

    1. 1920s Aigburth Road 2. Aigburth Dr around 1905. 3. Sefton Park bandstand about 1895.


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    Which part of Aigburth Rd would be the first picture?

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    That first pic is so familiar, gave me a deja vu moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronijayne View Post
    That first pic is so familiar, gave me a deja vu moment
    The Mersey Rd. Area?

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    No we are several blocks south of Aigburth Vale itself. Otterspool Park is to our left. We look to be at the corner of Woodlands Road and Aigburth Road. I believe there used to be a driving school headquarters in the shop that would be behind us. We are looking toward the junctions of Ashfield Road and then Aigburth Vale with Aigburth Road. I used to work at the bank at the corner of Ashfield Road -- it was a Martin's Bank when I worked there, later became Barclay's and is now a wine bar. See here for a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    No we are several blocks south of Aigburth Vale itself. Otterspool Park is to our left. We look to be at the corner of Woodlands Road and Aigburth Road. I believe there used to be a driving school headquarters in the shop that would be behind us. We are looking toward the junctions of Ashfield Road and then Aigburth Vale with Aigburth Road. I used to work at the bank at the corner of Ashfield Road -- it was a Martin's Bank when I worked there, later became Barclay's and is now a wine bar. See here for a map.

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    Thanks - that makes sense and it is like this now -

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,8.32,,0,-8.09

    But what is with the cars? They seem to be driving the wrong way...

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    Good work, AZ. Yes you can see that there's a datestone on the top of that building that's at the corner of Woodlands Road in both the old and the modern views. You can zoom into the Google street view and see that it reads "1907"! Oh, the marvels of technology. I also agree that it is disconcerting to see the traffic coming in a direction different to what we are used to here in the US of A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    ..... I also agree that it is disconcerting to see the traffic coming in a direction different to what we are used to here in the US of A.
    Errr, no. It looks to me like the cars in pic #1 are going in the US direction, not the Liverpool direction...

    ...or was Aigburth Rd. not a dual carriageway then... but it sure looks like one.

    I spent Feb. in Liverpool driving mum's car and I didn't get too mixed up...

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    Spot on,Christopher....woodlands road to the right,the shops are still standing but derelict....

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    Errr, no. It looks to me like the cars in pic #1 are going in the US direction, not the Liverpool direction...
    He's overtaking a cyclist,Az and it is a dual carriage way as the trams where in the center.

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    It is a dual road, always was from I remember. I knew that area well.

    Never heard of Mersey Road az.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronijayne View Post
    It is a dual road, always was from I remember. I knew that area well.

    Never heard of Mersey Road az.
    I don't think you were there in 1920....

    Mersey Rd is 1500 ft SE of the picture and is the road off Aigburth Rd. going towards the river and Aigburth train station. The other direction goes up the hill to Barkhill Womens Phys Ed college...err JMU... and is called Barkhill Rd. For the drinkers, it's one short block from the Sakara Wine bar...

    I was only out a little bit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    He's overtaking a cyclist,Az and it is a dual carriage way as the trams where in the center.
    Err... no again... the cars are going away from the photographer and if it's dual carriageway then they are on the US side of the road. Check out the tyre on the back of the car.

    It almost looks like two parallel roads on either side of the tram tracks, with each one being two-way.

    Did they make roads like that in the 20's alongside tram tracks?

    When I used that section of road last month I was driving towards the photographer and no-one was honking at me....

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    Az,the car is driving the correct way the parked up van tells us that and as I said he's overtaking the cyclist.

    I I stand in the middle of a dual carriageway here in the UK I will have cars rear to my left going away from me and the cars front coming towards me on my right.

    If you look in the other carriage way there is a truck going the same way in the same lane as the other motorist.

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    Check out the tyre on the back of the car.
    What about it? thats normal for some 1920's uk cars.

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    Did they make roads like that in the 20's alongside tram tracks?
    Aigburth road again,1920's
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    A simple explanation might be road works on the other side
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    Az,the car is driving the correct way the parked up van tells us that and as I said he's overtaking the cyclist.

    I I stand in the middle of a dual carriageway here in the UK I will have cars rear to my left going away from me and the cars front coming towards me on my right.

    If you look in the other carriage way there is a truck going the same way in the same lane as the other motorist.

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    What about it? thats normal for some 1920's uk cars.

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    Aigburth road again,1920's
    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5042/...3fc83f4e6f.jpg
    No... your picture shows the cars in the lane away from the river coming towards you - like I said this is the way it was in Feb...

    The tyre on the car in the original picture has it moving away from you in the same lane - I do know it's normal but it does nicely define front from rear, the car coming or going...

    If this is the case, then it's not a real dual carriageway which is two one-way lanes with a central divider of some sort - the tram lines in this case.

    I still don't get your answer, and the question still stands, did they make divided roads with two-way traffic on either side of the central divider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    A simple explanation might be road works on the other side
    Maybe, but it looks like a lorry going into town and bicylists riding away from town on the river side of the two roads/lanes...

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    I still don't get your answer, and the question still stands, did they make divided roads with two-way traffic on either side of the central divider?
    If the road was wide enough at the time,yes.

    I give up, the car is going the right way,the traffic direction of driving has not changed in the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by az_gila View Post
    I don't think you were there in 1920....

    Mersey Rd is 1500 ft SE of the picture and is the road off Aigburth Rd. going towards the river and Aigburth train station. The other direction goes up the hill to Barkhill Womens Phys Ed college...err JMU... and is called Barkhill Rd. For the drinkers, it's one short block from the Sakara Wine bar...

    I was only out a little bit....

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    Az it was still there when I was growing up!!!

    The negative may have been reversed. That used to happen a lot when you had copies made of pics in the 60's



    Err... no again... the cars are going away from the photographer and if it's dual carriageway then they are on the US side of the road. Check out the tyre on the back of the car.

    It almost looks like two parallel roads on either side of the tram tracks, with each one being two-way.

    Did they make roads like that in the 20's alongside tram tracks?

    When I used that section of road last month I was driving towards the photographer and no-one was honking at me....
    Az it was still there when I was growing up!!!

    The negative may have been reversed. That used to happen a lot when you had copies made of pics in the 60's

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    Hi AZ et al

    I don't know what the answer to the direction of the traffic might be to the way it looks in that old photograph, but it clearly shows that there is two-way traffic on both sides of the dual carriageway. I might suggest though that conceivably the one road nearer the river was for through traffic and the other road where the shops are was for local traffic. Just a theory mind!

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    The negative may have been reversed.
    Lol,I guess they musta moved the shops then,Roni.

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    Here's the flip side for Roni....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    Lol,I guess they musta moved the shops then,Roni.
    Smart Arse

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    Here's the flip side for Roni....
    See now that looks right to me as well, I should remember better, I had friends in Aigburth and went to Guides. Also in my teens there was a after school teen dance. (Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. we were told not to go as they were Protestants!! I told the teacher most of my cuzzies were Proddies! Not a happy woman!
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    Smart Arse
    You bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi AZ et al

    I don't know what the answer to the direction of the traffic might be to the way it looks in that old photograph, but it clearly shows that there is two-way traffic on both sides of the dual carriageway. I might suggest though that conceivably the one road nearer the river was for through traffic and the other road where the shops are was for local traffic. Just a theory mind!

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    We drove through Aigburth all the time, far as I remember it was just dual carriageway, no local traffic specials!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi AZ et al

    I don't know what the answer to the direction of the traffic might be to the way it looks in that old photograph, but it clearly shows that there is two-way traffic on both sides of the dual carriageway. I might suggest though that conceivably the one road nearer the river was for through traffic and the other road where the shops are was for local traffic. Just a theory mind!

    Chris
    Yes... that's what it looks like to me.... a quite different arrangement from the later dual carriageway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronijayne View Post
    .....I went to St Michael in the Hamlet Girl Guides
    I remember that was one of the first schools my dad taught at after WWII - early 50's....

    I'll check the attic again for stuff next time I'm back in Liverpool - it was too cold to go up there this last Feb...

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