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    I thought I knew most of Liverpool’s churches but this photograph has puzzled me for some time. It is a well-built church (it looks as if it is faced with stone) in a prosperous area (possibly Aigburth?) but there are few other clues. The photograph was one of a set owned by an organ repairer/cleaner. [...]

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    Hmm... I haven't a clue sorry.

    I think that Aigburth could be a bit misleading. I've got a hunch that it's more likely to be somewhere like Newsham... somewhere north Liverpool. But I could very well be wrong.

    Also, what is the unusually large pole on the right hand side of the image?

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    My first thoughts were somewhere around Sefton Park/ Ullett Road Area
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    They were a fairly busy pair of Church Organ Builders...

    http://beehive.thisishull.co.uk/defa...0&PageID=53049

    There are two of their organs listed here along with the names of repairers...

    http://www.npor.org.uk/hosa_info.shtml#BuilderList

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    This looks familairly like Park Lane area?

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    Great that you're doing a new edition of the Liverpool's Churches book Colin. Have you ever come across a decent view of St. Joseph's in Grosvenor Street. I know a few in the distance or at an angle exists, even interiors - but not a good view like that pic you've just posted. The LRO have a cracking selection of previously unpublished church pics you know.
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    There's also a book that may contain some clues?

    Forster and Andrews: organ builders, 1843-1956: a chapter in English organ building; foreword by W. L. Sumner

    Author: Lawrence Elvin

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    I agree that the image doesn't look much like Aigburth. Good luck in your quest to identify the church, Colin.

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    How about All Saints, Bentley Road.

    If you check the Alan Godfrey map of Princes Park, you can see that the church is on a bend in the road. There is some text on the bottom of the pic - I can see All and possibly Bentley - what do you think ?


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    What good eyesight you have Alan. I can see it all now you mention it, well done.
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    Alan and Ged..........you must eat a lot of carrots! Where is the text?!!!

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    It looks so familiar to me. Is it in Liverpool 8?
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    Is there still a church in Bentley Road? If there is I can take a picture 2moro on the way home from work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burkhilly View Post
    Is there still a church in Bentley Road? If there is I can take a picture 2moro on the way home from work.
    All Saints, Bentley Road was demolished in 1974. There's housing there now.
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    Thanks Chris. I pass Bentley Road all the time, but don't recall ever going down it. Shame the church is gone - there's so many in Liverpool that are no longer being used and I fear for their future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alansimp View Post
    How about All Saints, Bentley Road.

    If you check the Alan Godfrey map of Princes Park, you can see that the church is on a bend in the road. There is some text on the bottom of the pic - I can see All and possibly Bentley - what do you think ?


    Alan
    I've copied the photo, inverted the colours and zoomed in. I can confirm that it does indeed say ALL SAINTS, BENTLEY ROAD. Well spotted Alan.

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    I can see `S at the end of the name, the road I can see something like, part of a B or K then an E_ _LEY ROAD,and that`s with one eye.
    So I would agree with alansimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzie1 View Post
    Alan and Ged..........you must eat a lot of carrots! Where is the text?!!!
    I can't see that wording either. Amazing.
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    The mystery is solv-ed.
    This IS a good reason why Sherlock Holmes carried a magnifying glass. You live and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    All Saints, Bentley Road was demolished in 1974. There's housing there now.
    LOL I googled exactly the same
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    Is this it, the sixth picture down the page?

    http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/page/15/

    ...say no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Is this it, the sixth picture down the page?
    Not unless they knocked the houses down
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    Could it be that the name was removed from the photo because it was the wrong name for the church?

    anyway well done Allen.

    ---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 PM ----------

    In 1902 there where only two "All Saints Churches"at the time.

    All Saints Church, Toxteth Park (Prince's park)
    All Saints Church, Great Nelson street, Consecrated 22nd December, 1848


    ---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 PM ----------

    Sorry make that 5

    All Saint's, Oakfield
    All Saint's Parish Church, Childwall.
    All Saint's Church, Stoneycroft, Broad Green road, built 1875.


    ---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 PM ----------

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    The church was in Bentley Road and the vicar in 1950 was a Reverend Longbottom. Tiber Street school used to have some services held there and a scout and cub group was run by one of the churchwardens. If some enterprising Yo'er were to look in the Echo's archives they would come across some scandal that was attached to the prelate and his wardens. Paedophilia. My mother came and dragged me out of the cub meeting because she had just gotten wind of the rumours. I found out what they meant when they spoke of the infamy in whispers.
    One rainy afternoon Stanley G. and I were walking back to Lodge Lane when a Rover saloon drew up beside us,The very reverend wound down his window and asked if we would like a lift. We jumped in,Stanley getting in the front passenger seat, and I in the back. There was no conversation,saving for the occasional "ooh" from Stanley in the front. He let us out at the top of Mozart Street and shot off to Bentley Road. I was just about to say how great the ride was when Stanley said " 'E had 'is 'and stuck down the back of me keks and was feeling me bum"
    We kept well clear of that church from that day onwards!
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    Was this him, Brian?

    Great Homer Street was the dividing line between the 'Catholic' and the 'Protestant' areas of North Liverpool, and walking along it from the Kirkdale road end, the left hand side was known as the Protestant side. The HQ Church of the Orange Lodge run by the Rev. H.D. Longbottom (the Ian Paisley of Liverpool), was up the top end of Conyers St. At the bottom of Conyers Street, opposite Great Mersey Street, was a single hand-operated petrol pump "ROP", the only petrol pump of any sort within 3 or 4 miles. There were no 'Forecourts' of today's universal brand names then, and relatively few motorcars. "ROP" stood for Russian Oil Products! The neighbouring streets running uphill bore Eastern Mediterranean names, Zante, Conyers, Crete, Candia, and Mytelene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Is this it, the sixth picture down the page?

    http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/page/15/

    ...say no more.

    Hi Oudeis, The picture you refer to is St Margaret's on Belmont Road. I have had confirmation from Paul Laxton that it is indeed All Saints, Bentley Road - he cleared the church out in 1972. I am amazed that there is text visible on the scan - there is nothing visible on the photograph. It would seem the light spectrum of the scanner has picked out what is invisible to the naked eye (even with a magnifying glass). Thank you all for your valuable help.

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    Good one,Colin.

    Bit like those security pens you could buy and write a name and address on and it wsn't visible to the eye until you shone a handheld infared light upon the item,also what the scientifc police use to detec traces of blood thats been wiped from the scene of crime.

    Now about that photie I asked for earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    The church was in Bentley Road and the vicar in 1950 was a Reverend Longbottom. Tiber Street school used to have some services held there and a scout and cub group was run by one of the churchwardens. If some enterprising Yo'er were to look in the Echo's archives they would come across some scandal that was attached to the prelate and his wardens. Paedophilia. My mother came and dragged me out of the cub meeting because she had just gotten wind of the rumours. I found out what they meant when they spoke of the infamy in whispers.
    One rainy afternoon Stanley G. and I were walking back to Lodge Lane when a Rover saloon drew up beside us,The very reverend wound down his window and asked if we would like a lift. We jumped in,Stanley getting in the front passenger seat, and I in the back. There was no conversation,saving for the occasional "ooh" from Stanley in the front. He let us out at the top of Mozart Street and shot off to Bentley Road. I was just about to say how great the ride was when Stanley said " 'E had 'is 'and stuck down the back of me keks and was feeling me bum"
    We kept well clear of that church from that day onwards!
    BrianD

    Rev Longbottom ?? are we talking the same person here ?

    I have this old photo of my great aunt, taken on a picnic day out with Rev Longbottom !
    I suppose it's the same man ??
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    Hi Lindy & Georgie
    The very reverend looked a bit like the man in your picture, I am not sure how old he was,he was a tall well set man who a ruddy complexion and was balding. The time I wrote of was 59 years ago,so it is possible that he was the man in the picture,but the cloche hats of the young ladies would seem to put that pi cture on the twenties or early thirties. Could be that there were more Longbottoms who were vicars,
    BrianD

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