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    Exclamation Grotspots

    TEN eyesore buildings were today unveiled as top priorities for a pre-Capital of Culture spring clean.

    Officials chose a set of grotty locations to spearhead plans to brighten up Liverpool before the start of 2008.

    They want to make sure the city is looking its best for the showcase year, when hundreds of thousands of tourists are expected to visit.

    Cleaning up or disguising rundown, boarded-up buildings is a key part of the Look Of The City project.

    Liverpool council has now chosen the 10 premises it will target under the £4m programme.

    They include the former ABC cinema in Lime Street, and the old TGWU headquarters in Commutation Row.

    Some of the sites are earmarked for complete redevelopment in the future, but city leaders want them made more presentable in the meantime.

    Other elements of Look Of The City will see dirty pavements steam-cleaned, litter hotspots blitzed and streets decked out with colourful flags and banners.

    Unadopted roads through Sefton Park, currently riddled with potholes, will also be relaid before 2008.

    City’s top 10 targeted

    1. West Lime Street

    NOW – Shutters and boarded-up shop fronts painted, Las Vegas sign removed, pavements washed.

    LATER - Complete redevelopment, hopefully starting in 2009.

    2. Former ABC cinema, Lime Street

    NOW - Facade cleaned, illuminated sign reinstated, entrance boarded up, broken windows repaired.

    LATER - Developer sought to refurbish building.

    3. Kensington Fields community centre, Hall Lane


    NOW - Doors and windows replaced, kickabout area resurfaced, landscaping improved.

    LATER - Ongoing refurbishment.

    4. Kingston House, The Strand

    NOW - Hopefully demolition of building in November-March.

    LATER - New commercial development, possibly starting before end of 2008.

    5. Islington and Moss Street

    NOW/LATER - Council taking action to make landowners improve properties.

    6. Former Yates’ wine lodge, West Moorfields

    NOW - Yates’ building used for Turning The Place Over artwork, car park fenced off, short-term improvements to Moorfields station.

    LATER - Yates’ and car park could be sold for new office development in two or three years’ time.

    7. TGWU, Commutation Row

    NOW - Doors secured and painted, forecourt cleared.

    LATER - Could be sold to new buyer for refurbishment next year.

    8. Gregson’s Well pub, Low Hill

    NOW/LATER - Council taking enforcement action to make owner improve property.

    9. Norton’s scrap yard, Parliament Street

    NOW - Signs removed, walls made good, new adverts in place.

    LATER - Potential for 20-floor tower of apartments

    10. Islington car park, Islington

    NOW - Council-owned section resurfaced, fence put up, new pay & display.


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    LATER - Talks about future operation of park.

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    The worst is Concourse House.

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    I've always thought that grot building on Hawke St behind the Adelphi Hotel should be demolished. Prime land right in the centre of Liverpool going to waste.

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    Not on that list but I believe the King Eddy pub has now gone.
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    It's interesting how the pre-CoC 'clean up' focuses solely on the town centre (ok, Hall Lane is a little way out, but even so...). It just seems to cosmetic and pretend, like sweeping rubbish under the carpet. What about the rest of the city? These aren't 'grot spots' compared so some of the areas of Kirkdale, Kensington and Toxteth that I've been through.

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    Since I've been in Liverpool there's been a run-down place on Smithdown Road, opposite Asda, proper tatty shop fronts (one was still open for a long time) and paint flaking off the whole wall. A few months back it was painted head-to-toe black, and it's hardly an attraction but it's a whole lot better now, nowhere near as tatty. A shame though they got rid of "Gerry The Fridge Man"

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    One of the most direct routes in to town from the M62 is Edge Lane - if you didn't go down Edge Lane but went down Wavertree Road instead, you'd come across The Botanic Pub, a near shell after much fire damage.

    Do the council think that visitors will shut their eyes until they get in to town?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadfael View Post
    One of the most direct routes in to town from the M62 is Edge Lane - if you didn't go down Edge Lane but went down Wavertree Road instead, you'd come across The Botanic Pub, a near shell after much fire damage.

    Do the council think that visitors will shut their eyes until they get in to town?

    Burnt out Ale ouses are common across the city. On my bus route home there is a big pub called the Royal in Bank Hall Terrible! Another one is the Crown on the East Lancs where someone wanted to build apartments and the council knocked them back!!!
    Is it really beyond the councils ken to do something about these things?

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    There was one in St Helens a while back. In just a couple of years it went from a lively little local to closed up, then boarded up, then burnt out, then finally demolished. Never went in there, but still sad to see it go in that way

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    A lone man with a little hammer working on demolishing some of the first floor walls of a derelict property in Moss Street yesterday. At that rate it'll still be there next year.
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    The derelict building at the junction of Cheapside/Dale Street had some colourful hoardings put up around it yesterday. I'm surprised this building hasn't fallen down yet.

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    Same here and i've mentioned it on here before somewhere, the upper walls are definitely bellowing outwards towards Cheapside. I worked further along towards the Magistrates courts at 99/101 from 1980 - 1992. It's an old bloack that, our toilets were up on the top floor and with skylights, they were freezing in the winter and stunk of pee in the summer.
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    Is that the former Jamaica Hotel?
    The Job Centre once sent me for a job there!
    That block is interesting because they must be the oldest buildings in Dale Street.

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    I'm not positive but I think the Jamaica Hotel was on the next block and the hotel was on the corner of Vernon Street?
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    1. Rugs 2 Go, Klaussners & Halfords site, Edge Lane.
    2. Skelly/Advent site, Edge Lane.
    3. Demolished pub, Edge Lane retail park.
    4. Former council flats site, Kirkdale Road, Everton.
    5. Boarded-up houses, Edge Lane West, Kensington.
    6. Derelict shops, Breck Road, Anfield.
    7. Gas holder, Speke Road, Speke.
    8. Boarded-up shops, Walton Breck Road, Anfield.
    9. Stanley Dock, Great Howard Street, Vauxhall.
    10. Derelict shops, Wright Street, Everton.
    11. King Edward pub, Great Howard Street, city centre.
    12. Imperial Tobacco, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    13. The Rocket garage, Edge Lane.
    14. Former Anfield car centre, Walton Breck Road, Anfield.
    15. Premier Beverages, Speke Boulevard, Speke.
    16. Stonebridge Cross site, East Lancashire Road, Gillmoss.
    17. Empty warehouses, Scotland Road, Everton.
    18. Former garage, West Derby Road, Kensington.
    19. Loop line bridge, Walton Hall Avenue, Walton.
    20. Edge Hill railway station, Edge Hill.
    21. Derelict warehouses, Sefton Street, Toxteth.
    22. Boarded-up houses, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    23. Boarded-up houses, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    24. Scrap metal yard, Derby Road, Vauxhall.
    25. Derelict offices, Great Howard Street, Vauxhall.
    26. Former 1950s-style diner, East Lancashire Road, Croxteth.
    27. Derelict shops, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    28. Empty business premises, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    29. Derelict businesses, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    30. Boarded-up cinema, Green Lane, Tuebrook.
    31. Former Olympia Hotel, West Derby Road, Kensington.
    32. Advertising hoardings, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    33. Burned-out pub, Low Hill, Kensington.
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    34. Car park, Queens Drive/East Prescot Road, Knotty Ash.
    35. Railway depot, between Allerton and Hunts Cross stations.
    36. Derelict shops, Scotland Road/Penrhyn Street, Everton.
    37. Former pub, Scotland Road/Penrhyn Street, Everton.
    38. Derelict pub, Kirkdale Road, Everton.
    39. Empty Dickie Lewis’s pub, Stopgate Lane, Fazakerley.
    40. Boarded-up houses, Walton Breck Road/Skerries Road, Anfield.
    41. Former pub & furniture shop, Derby Road/Bankhall Road, Vauxhall.
    42. Open ground (with Car Smart sign), Derby Road, Vauxhall.
    43. Derelict Highlandhome Hotel, Sefton Street, Toxteth.
    44. Gas tower behind Brunswick station, Riverside Drive, Dingle.
    45. Garden Festival site, Speke Road, Riverside Drive, St Michaels.
    46. Derelict pub, Garston Way/Seddon Road, Garston.
    47. Empty shops, Edge Lane.
    48. Advertising hoardings & elevated fruit and veg market sign, Edge Lane.
    49. Former Carpet World site, Edge Lane.
    50. Brick wall, Edge Lane.
    51. Boarded-up flats, Muirhead Avenue, Tuebrook.
    52. The Grafton Rooms, West Derby Road, Kensington.
    53. Boarded-up house, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    54. Rundown houses, Rocky Lane, Tuebrook.
    55. Grafton car park, West Derby Road, Kensington.
    56. Derelict garage, Queens Drive, Clubmoor.
    57. Boarded-up house, Queens Drive, Walton.
    58. Skip hire building, between Bankhall and Sandhills stations.
    59. Building frame, Edge Hill station, Edge Hill.
    60. Rundown shed, Edge Hill station, Edge Hill.
    61. Advertising hoardings, Rice Lane, Walton.
    62. Rundown building & hoarding, Rice Lane, Walton.
    63. Three boarded-up shops, Scotland Road, Everton.
    64. Tall building & hoarding, Kirkdale Road, Everton.
    65. Industrial unit & metal fence, Speke Hall Road/Speke Boulevard, Speke.
    66. Derelict site, Speke Hall Road, Speke.
    67. Derelict building, Speke Hall Road, Speke.
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    68. Simpson Ground pavilion, Hillfoot Road, Woolton.
    69. Boarded-up homes, East Lancashire Road, Croxteth.
    70. Derelict open ground, Derby Road, Vauxhall.
    71. Open vacant land, Great Howard Street/Stone Street, Vauxhall.
    72. Former car wash, Great Howard Street, Vauxhall.
    73. Church, Edge Lane, Kensington.
    74. Derelict land, Laurel Road/Edge Lane, Fairfield.
    75. Railway bridge, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    76. Road junction, Rocky Lane/Belmont Road, Tuebrook.
    77. Industrial unit, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    78. Empty shops, Larkhill Place/Queens Drive, Clubmoor.
    79. Vandalised train, between Allerton & Hunts Cross stations.
    80. Shipping containers, between Allerton & Hunts Cross stations.
    81. Railway bridge, Rice Lane, Walton.
    82. Overgrown trees & bushes, Great Howard Street, Vauxhall.
    83. Vacant site, Derby Road/Bankhall Street, Vauxhall.
    84. Empty industrial unit, Derby Road/Sandhills Lane, Vauxhall.
    85. Metal fence & razor wire, Derby Road, Vauxhall.
    86. Heritage market car park, Derby Road, Vauxhall.
    87. Burned-out fire station, Speke Road/Banks Road, Speke.
    88. Yellow building, Garston Way, Garston.
    89. Overgrown vacant site, Edge Lane.
    90. Deserted tarmac triangle, Edge Lane Drive, Old Swan.
    91. Cluttered signs, Kwik Fit site, Edge Lane.
    92. Advertising hoardings, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    93. Closed public toilets, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    94. Shop signs & empty flats, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    95. Boaler Street industrial estate boundary, West Derby Road, Kensington.
    96. Industrial unit wall, Brunswick Road, Kensington.
    97. Shop fronts, West Derby Road, Tuebrook.
    98. Car wash, Queens Drive, Clubmoor.
    99. Empty Victorian house, Queens Drive, Sandfield Park.
    100. Dumped industrial material, Brunswick station, Dingle.

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    You'd think by that list that there's hardly any in South Liverpool.

    And what's wrong with the Grafton Rooms?

    Oh well, the source is the Liverpool Echo.

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    And yet no mention of these which I think

    would look nice if revived though they could be beyond repair.
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    I can't stand the grafton rooms and the olympia, they're really manky. The railway bridge on west derby road in Tue Brook has recently been replaced, so I'm not quite sure why thats still on there.

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    And the King Eddie pub's gone so I reckon the echo office windows need cleaning.
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    Some list that is, i didn"t realise how much Liverpool needed doing up. With
    the capital of culture coming up, it will be all false front, like a cowboy town.

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    Theres no metion of this church/chaple on Netherfield Rd



    or The Sefton Pub on the corner of Westminister Rd & Bradewell St
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    Snap Mandy. I noticed some of the flats in John Bagot close boarded up too.

    The Sefton didn't last long as Rooney's did it? It was on fire last weekend when I passed by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Snap Mandy. I noticed some of the flats in John Bagot close boarded up too.

    The Sefton didn't last long as Rooney's did it? It was on fire last weekend when I passed by.
    I've noticed the flats on John Bagot too are they coming down?I've a few mates living there & they haven't heard nothing
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    Not that I know of, they could do with filling them and getting some council tax, that's if they're working. Imagine Max coming down that Hampton st with his dodgy brakes.
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    This eyesore is a grotspot and a blight on a nice pleasant park.



    Will it become a victim of the "All come down" syndrome. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Not that I know of, they could do with filling them and getting some council tax, that's if they're working. Imagine Max coming down that Hampton st with his dodgy brakes.
    I once asked a taxi driver to take me that way & he said I'm not going up "Cardiac Hill "!!!
    I walk up and down York Terrace every day, no wonder I've got calves like a marathon runner
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    I've seen yer geeeeerl, fishnets, red leather mini, boobtube - looks nice.
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    I think the whole of the Grafton Street,L8 area is terrible!
    The whole street is dirty, depressing and the houses are awful
    The only redeeming feature is the old house in the middle.
    Looks like it was once a cooperage

    (will try and get a pic)

    Also the waste ground at the bottom of Enid Street that faces onto Windsor Street, L8 is awful, it has been like that since I was a kid.
    To be honest, the whole area around Windsor Street is terrible. I have lived around L8 for most of my life, and it is so sad to see the decline of yet more once thriving areas.

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    I don't know why the Irish pub in Victoria Street hasn't been mentioned.. Its got trees growing out if its windows and water runs down the walls of this rather nice sandstone building. The one next to the Natwest Bank. I'll see if I can get a picture.

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