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    This is part of Kirkdale as it is now.the green field covers some lost streets ,Aspinall,Rockingham,Flinders,and Latham Streets, The large building on the left is the old British American factory now residential called Tobacco
    Wharf. On the Horizon is the Grosnvenor cinema now an undertakers and the old library now a furniture store. The lane on the left is Sandhills once cobbled and used by Tate and Lyle horse drawn wagons to transport the sugar to their refinery. Every winter there would be lots of horses falling on the cobbles with the ice and snow,and lots of little boys with plenty of sugar for their toffee apples,
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    Great pic and memories Joe.

    That Pleroma/McBurney distribution premises in the hollow of the BAT is some site isn't it, I expect you'll remember it as railway sidings etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    Thanks Ged. You can see the Gordon Institute a bit further along Stanley Rd
    in your pic,used to go in there to watch amatuer boxing championships when
    I was a schoolboy. Watched about 40 bouts for sixpence
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    I never got round to walking down that part of Stanley Road but I do
    have fond memories of the Gordon Institute which was a haven to young
    people in the 30's. It had fairly strong connections with the local Scouting
    packs and I remember going there several times to pass the exams for all
    my proficiency badges when I was in the Cubs ( does Housekeeping,
    Collecting, Flag Signalling, Knots ring a bell)? My pack was based at Saint
    Aths and I was quite keen for a few years. The highlights used to be the
    parades round the vicinity behind the Band and especially the big Bass Drum!
    I had to transfer to the Scouts after the age of 12 but never had the same
    enthusiasm and soon gave them up. Is the Scout movement still active
    and is there still a Troop at Saint Aths? Or is there even a Saint Aths?
    Thanks for all the various bits of info, pics etc. Kev They're
    much appreciated? Stan H

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post

    This is part of Kirkdale as it is now.the green field covers some lost streets ,Aspinall,Rockingham,Flinders,and Latham Streets, The large building on the left is the old British American factory now residential called Tobacco
    Wharf. On the Horizon is the Grosnvenor cinema now an undertakers and the old library now a furniture store. The lane on the left is Sandhills once cobbled and used by Tate and Lyle horse drawn wagons to transport the sugar to their refinery. Every winter there would be lots of horses falling on the cobbles with the ice and snow,and lots of little boys with plenty of sugar for their toffee apples,
    Yes, but remember this was before it was refined. It was dark brown in
    colour, dense and heavy, mixed up with all sorts of dubious bits of vegetable
    matter, and above all extremely sticky. It took ages to get rid of and if you were unlucky enough to get any on your clothes a rough reception when you
    got home was certain. I actually preferred to get behind the Scammell steam
    lorries carrying thick black molasses for refining into treacle and dipping my
    fingers in the big outlet pipe at the back. But you usually ended up in a bit
    of a mess whatever you chose.
    Stan H

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    What are the flower streets like now? I'm looking at a place on Pansy St. with reasonable rent and it looks like a lovely place from the photos. Would it be a good place to choose?

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    Very mixed feelings depending on which aspect you're coming from.

    My in-laws live here and have very little trouble, in fact they won't move, they quite like it, easy for town with buses running regularly from there.

    Youths do tend to hang around Stanley Road which is the main road that all the flower streets run off and although not all are trouble makers, the Pansy pub owner was robbed on a couple of occassions when banking the takings last year and the post office was 'regularly done'. The off licences and takeaway food outlets seem to be favourite hanging about places.

    The Easby estate facing is run down and in the middle of being boarded up to be demolished so it can be isolated, a number of pubs are closed down in the area.

    Generally, as in most places, a vast majority of the local residents are fine people who take pride in their properties, the two or three shop owners I know from that stretch are great and the fact they're still there and have been for many years says a lot.
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    Question Fountains Road

    I lived in Medlock Street, Kirkdale from the early to mid-50's and moved out about 1971 to Skelmersdale when they were clearing the area. I've passed through Kirkdale a few times and very little has been done to it since then.

    We used to play in Fountains Road, I think it was an old church that was no longer used. It was opposite St John's Church. We used to call it a synagogue but I don't think that can be right. We were only about 5. Can anyone else remember this church/synagogue and what was it called?

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    Could it be the original St Athenasius church, a newish one is there now on the corner of Fonthill Road.
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    Hi Ged

    That's probably it. Can't remember much about it except it was closed but it would have been in the week.

    thanks

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    Beth, My mother and my wife both lived in Medlock Street (at different times) while i myself was brought up in Aintree only to return to get married in St. Johns Church in Fountains road and live locally on the Lancaster estate. there are some great pics that may interest you at http://www.kirkdaleonline.co.uk/full_list.htm
    Names from my family include Burke, Hesketh, Thompson.
    Always nice to see Medlock st mentioned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth View Post
    I lived in Medlock Street, Kirkdale from the early to mid-50's and moved out about 1971 to Skelmersdale when they were clearing the area. I've passed through Kirkdale a few times and very little has been done to it since then.

    We used to play in Fountains Road, I think it was an old church that was no longer used. It was opposite St John's Church. We used to call it a synagogue but I don't think that can be right. We were only about 5. Can anyone else remember this church/synagogue and what was it called?

    Beth
    Hi Beth,
    I used to live round the corner,in Rumney rd, opposite the Kirkdale homes,which was our playground! My school,St.Johns, was just off Fountains rd,and I vaguely remember the synagogue,(I think?) but didn't know what it was! I've attached pic' of same,and hope it's the one your looking for?
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    Well done Steve so it was a synagogue then.
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    Ta Ged,
    that's what it says on the tin, but as I said,only vague memories of it! Anyone have info' on the jewish community,I assume,lived in the area?

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    Then of course there was Kirkdale Prison in Fountains Road. Scene of many executions by the likes of Calcraft. Ive only ever seen drawings of the place. Any photos Ged?

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    Hiya, yes there's one on here supplied by Taffy.

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    Whata guy!

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    The old Gordon Institute on Stanley Road,Kirkdale, still looking in good shape in its roll as a community centre.
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    Nice one Joe. Know it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    Hi Billy D,
    did you know the late Canon Hopkins whose pic you use for your profile image ?
    When my Dad asked Canon Hopkins for freedom of the Parish so he could mary my mother , Canon Hopkins called him the Al Capone of Kirkdale !!!

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    Took a little trip back home,,,,,Dont know why but i always say that about Kirkdale

    First job i had was a paper lad,,,walshes on wessy rd,,,i was about 6/7 years of age,,imagine that now,,

    Took a few pics,,,

    Bill,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    This Shop used to be Walshes

    Wessy Rd towards Scottie RD

    Wessy Rd towards County RD

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    Hello again Billy,
    Nice pictures there cuz, last time I was in that church was to bury my dad, that was in the early part of this century; the first I entered that church was in May 1942,when my Nin ,at the head of a raiding party,took me to get baptised as a taig before the protestant side of the family could get me christened as a proddy. They did anyway , got done in St Lukes a week later. Happy days eh!!
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    Anybody remeber Chalmers Hall on Westminster Rd.Originally a church built in 1862, but schools used it as a dinner centre in the 1940`s
    We used to have 2 lines of kids ,them that recieved free dinners (this includes me) and them that could afford the 5d. The dinner was good with water to drink on each table but I never liked the puddings (sweets as they call them now) as they were nearly always served semolina.
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    Hi BRIAN,,,,how are you
    Hope the party went ok

    That chuch brings back so many memories to me,,,,father Hopkins,,,Baptism,,First Holy COMUNION,,Confirmation,,,confession every friday with the school,,,,,,had to go every sunday no iffs or butts,,,,suppose it was were i began....

    Your story is a good old fashioned kidnapping() and you get the bragging right with that one,,,imagine that happening today..
    talk about dual passport,,,,,you got dual religion....

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    Just in case none of you had seen it before. Canon Hopkins in Kirkdale.



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    Canon Hopkins residence at the far end of this block on Gt Mersey St.



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    Feel free to jion this facebok site dedicated to Kirkdale and the surrounding area.
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    Driving through kirkdale yesterday....
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    Nicely done Billy D. I like the way the images open up in squares and some are sort of pixelated as they open.
    Wish you'd added the whole of the street sign there - I can just see L4

    Thanks for posting Billy

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    Used to live in Rumney rd.opposite the Kirkdale homes,it's hardly recognisable now,bar for the "Medlock" pub'!

    ---------- Post added at 03:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:27 PM ----------

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    Canon Hopkins residence at the far end of this block on Gt Mersey St.



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    Ged,is there any way of confirming that canon Hopkins,lived in that house? He was my confessor,many times,when I went to St.John's! (My better half,insists it wasn't)

    (dont know what's happened,but these posts have "doubled up" ??)

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    Geds had a relapse, Canon Hopkins was parish priest for many years at St Johns and lived in Fountains Rd. That building was the priest`s house for St Ollies.
    Father Winder, parish priest of St Ollies (Alphonsus) lived there, and there is a close in Kirkdale named after him..
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