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    Whilst looking at the story of my Great Grandfather's sister I found that, shortly after she married in 1911, she lived on Torr Street in Everton. Now, confusingly, the particular address is given as '3 Rock View'.

    I knew that Rock View was one of the old tower blocks, but obviously that wasn't around in 1911, so I presume it's the name of one of the 'slum' terraces on Torr Street. Just quite a coincidence that it's the one they named the towerblock after!

    What I was wondering is whether anyone has any photos of 'old' Torr Street, before the tower block was constructed, perhaps showing some of the old housing...?

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    Not many pics were taken aound this area befoe the slum clearence? asI used to live 3 streets away ie off York Terrace/Albion Street.

    Here's a Map of the area.....

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    Thanks for that - it covers the walk from her house to her brother's house.

    That's one huge hospital down by the Gordon St. end. When did that appear/disappear...?

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    Thats John Bagots Hospital which was in the middle of the two steepest declining streets in Liverpool.
    The map is dated 1927 so therefore the Hospital would be around 1890's?

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    Ah, yes. Those streets with the handrails on...?

    It's odd about that hospital. My Great Grandfather (who lived on Robsart St - right next to it) was rushed off to Mill Road Infirmary in 1921 shortly before he died (aged 31). Odd that he didn't go to this John Bagots one. Or was it not for the poor...?

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    JohnBagots was a "Fever"Hospital ie any various cases of fever and the patient was sent here.

    ---------- Post added at 09:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 PM ----------

    Its here on Colins site...

    http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/tag/netherfield-road/

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    I lived in Torr Street in 1980's & would love to see pics of the old houses or even the flats I lived in

    Torr Street is now Hartor street at the Netherfield rd end & Joshua Close at the St Domingo Rd end
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    Torr Street is now Hartor street at the Netherfield rd end & Joshua Close at the St Domingo Rd end
    How do Mand.

    Nethy end is Torr Street,its short but its still retained its name.

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    Torr Street Flats. courtesy of that Fagan fella.

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/att...3&d=1177424217

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    How do Mand.

    Nethy end is Torr Street,its short but its still retained its name.
    hiya George
    its a recent change George....maybe a year or two at the most ,a friend moved into the new houses when they were first opened
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    All they had to do Mand was retain the name and called any close offit TorrClose. silly sods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    How do Mand.

    Nethy end is Torr Street,its short but its still retained its name.

    ---------- Post added at 03:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:12 PM ----------

    Torr Street Flats. courtesy of that Fagan fella.

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/att...3&d=1177424217
    good photo George...& Ged!!!

    those flats are Clare Terrace looking toward Devonshire Place
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    hiya George
    its a recent change George....maybe a year or two at the most ,a friend moved into the new houses when they were first opened

    Correct Mandy...my cousin lived in the flats near the top end on St Domingo Rd..
    there is an old photo about claiming to be of Torr St...
    if I remember correctly it shows bricklayers building the flats around the late 50's, early 60's..I think !
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    It's a pity there are no LRO ones of the old terraced Torr Street, they only have a few photos of the flats being built in the 50s.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

    Updated weekly with old and new pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    All they had to do Mand was retain the name and called any close offit TorrClose. silly sods.
    they kept a little bit of the Torr as in HarTOR St
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    It's a pity there are no LRO ones of the old terraced Torr Street, they only have a few photos of the flats being built in the 50s.
    I'd be inclined to look fo Aerial Photographs,Ged...simply because they would need these for new housing stratedgy after the clearence of the area.

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    Do the LRO photos of the flats being built contain any evidence of the original tenement housing...?

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    No, there's just a small number of photos of the bricklayers actually building the flats as mentioned earlier - this after the terraced streets have succumbed.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

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    Ged,

    Cheers for that. I presume the streets themselves wouldn't have been much different from the others 'round that area. I have one of Robsart Street (where my Grandmother was born) which serves the purpose of the tenement housing very well I think...

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    I have one of Robsart Street
    Scan it and upload it here and then we could yay or nay it as to the same housing conditions...probably is though?

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    Robsart St No.9 Court in 1959 - you know where

    I was the first with the file out although it'd been available for over a year so it's likely the only place you'll see this photo.
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    Here is a pic of Robsart Street, courtesy of Liverpool Record Office.



    Cheers,
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    The Big One....

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    Would this have been taken from the top of St Georges Heights?

    Forget that,seems it would not have been as its not far enough along Heywoth street for the shot.

    Hmmm! what high vantage point would have given this shot? prolly a Telephoto lens used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    Wouldthis have been taken fromthe top of St Georges Heights?


    Only if they have moved half a mile nearly south and shot up half a mile...!

    that photo was taken from an aeroplane.
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    that photo was taken from an aeroplane.
    If thats the case then there should be other pics of this ilk because the clearence didn't just span to this area of Everton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    If thats the case then there should be other pics of this ilk because the clearence didn't just span to this area of Everton.


    I would imagine so, probably quite a lot...
    I cant see them going up in a plane to take one photo..


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    Crosbie, Canterbury and Haigh heights on William Henry Street.
    ...each was 15 storey and 41 metres high..
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    Ah, I didn't know said photo actually had a court number given! My Nan was at Number 13. I wonder what 'name' Number 9 had? Number 13 was the salubrious "Cambridge Terrace"!

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    That's a beautiful aerial photo. When's that from? I see the clearances are well, well underway!

    I can see the watertower, but can't see any other landmarks with which I'm familiar (although I wouldn't say I know Everton at all well, really!) - anyone care to point to Netherfield or Domingo's or a church or two...?

    Stephen

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    Not many pics were taken aound this area befoe the slum clearence? asI used to live 3 streets away ie off York Terrace/Albion Street.



    Here's a Map of the area.....


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    St Domingo is not in this shot,the circle starts at Brougham Terrace ie west derby road....the 3 high rise flats in the mid distance are Sheil Road Heights....following the dark line I have put this is Everton Road.

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    Netherfield Road is the road immidiatly in front of the tower blocks at the bottom

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