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    2 exploreres went today and was first confronted by 2 youths...a while later 8 more turned up and literally chased them off calling them coppers?

    speaking to another explorer he said he was also chased off this site a while bk ny some locals

    when we was there the other day whilst outside taking externals 2 lads popped there heads over the fence from inside then disappeared?


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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    2 exploreres went today and was first confronted by 2 youths...a while later 8 more turned up and literally chased them off calling them coppers?

    speaking to another explorer he said he was also chased off this site a while bk ny some locals

    when we was there the other day whilst outside taking externals 2 lads popped there heads over the fence from inside then disappeared?

    i wonder why?
    Maybe there's some dodgy dealings going on. Maybe also the explorers do happen to look like coppers.
    Take a few knuckle heads with you next time maybe even a street wise kid.
    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Great pics Georgie.

    I agree such a shame to see it like this.
    Ditto and ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    2 exploreres went today and was first confronted by 2 youths...a while later 8 more turned up and literally chased them off calling them coppers?

    speaking to another explorer he said he was also chased off this site a while bk ny some locals

    when we was there the other day whilst outside taking externals 2 lads popped there heads over the fence from inside then disappeared?

    i wonder why?
    It's probably being used for all sorts of dodgy purposes, and you are stepping on "territory",as it were!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    It's probably being used for all sorts of dodgy purposes...
    I live on the doorstep, I'm around there all the time taking photos...
    I get on with the kids and they are all OK..I'll vouch for that personally.

    The only things dodgy Ste going on in Eldon Grove are the gypsies arriving daily
    (when the gates were open..) loading their wagons stealing the boilers and metal...
    and the Polish imigramts in the flats stealing the copper cables...
    I know..I saw it and walked up to them and took their photographs...
    and I suspect it was these people cutting and burning power cables that caused the recent fire..


    Maybe the people around there have had enough of Eldon Grove being invaded and robbed by outsiders..
    Maybe the kids are trying to keep them out... and thats what I think for what its worth..



    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    ... and you are stepping on "territory",as it were!
    100% spot on.... if I see macho men "explorers" in combat keks trying to look dead hard hanging around there I'll tell them where to go as well....
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    Nobody stopped us? But then again we were with one of the local hard nuts

    A certain S.G.T Pepper
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    Ha ha I'm flattered but that i'm certainly not.

    I lived on Burly for 5 years and my brother has done since 1988 having moved there with a lot of people from Vauxhall Gardens and I would like to think that these lads are just looking out for the place.

    I really hope the council or someone rescues them.
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    Rescues the lads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    I live on the doorstep, I'm around there all the time taking photos...
    I get on with the kids and they are all OK..I'll vouch for that personally.

    The only things dodgy Ste going on in Eldon Grove are the gypsies arriving daily
    (when the gates were open..) loading their wagons stealing the boilers and metal...
    and the Polish imigramts in the flats stealing the copper cables...
    I know..I saw it and walked up to them and took their photographs...
    and I suspect it was these people cutting and burning power cables that caused the recent fire..


    Maybe the people around there have had enough of Eldon Grove being invaded and robbed by outsiders..
    Maybe the kids are trying to keep them out... and thats what I think for what its worth..





    100% spot on.... if I see macho men "explorers" in combat keks trying to look dead hard hanging around there I'll tell them where to go as well....
    your talkin **** explorers dont wear combat keks or think there dead hard i do hope to bump into you though on my travels and see how hard you are

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    I've not seen any gypsies at all; but I do know a few Poles that are dead hard - and might be inclined to make contact with you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    your talkin **** explorers dont wear combat keks or think there dead hard i do hope to bump into you though on my travels and see how hard you are

    I'm terrified mate... he who ran away from a few shouting kids is coming after me....

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    Another thread getting ruined here. Pack it in please.
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    Well I've said it before...
    There's nowhere in this city I wouldn't go. Maybe because I am streetwise but maybe because I am awake and know "the score" as some say. Usually, I know someone who knows someone who knows me so most places I go I know people.
    There's nowhere I wouldn't go and I certainly wouldn't run from a few kids. I know some people make themselves an easy looking target. Looking scared and weary. That's some peoples problem. It's like dogs, you either can face them or you can't and walk all around the place to avoid one. Not good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Another thread getting ruined here. Pack it in please.
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    Hopefully we won't lose the whole thread, as most people have gone to some trouble to make it interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Another thread getting ruined here. Pack it in please.
    Hopefully not mate. Just get rid of the creep who keeps popping in now and again....yeah the know all, and all will be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing View Post
    Well I've said it before...
    There's nowhere in this city I wouldn't go. Maybe because I am streetwise but maybe because I am awake and know "the score" as some say. Usually, I know someone who knows someone who knows me so most places I go I know people.
    There's nowhere I wouldn't go and I certainly wouldn't run from a few kids. I know some people make themselves an easy looking target. Looking scared and weary. That's some peoples problem. It's like dogs, you either can face them or you can't and walk all around the place to avoid one. Not good


    I know everyone John around Liverpool...
    and I mean everyone mate....
    inc the "Heads" I've seen mentioned on here...
    my mates of old..my drinking buddies to this day..


    If divvie beauts want to have a go at me then I'd prefer they looked at my name...
    and me saying I live on Eldon Grove doorstep....
    easy enough to find, are'nt I ?... along with my sons who'd be interested in all this..



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    i didnt start anything here im just defending them uneducated comments im not arsed who people can get who are hard i can get nasty peopld if you wanna go down that route at the end of the day that poor guy is just jealous because explorers take better pictures than the ones he takes

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    i didnt start anything here im just defending them uneducated comments im not arsed who people can get who are hard i can get nasty peopld if you wanna go down that route at the end of the day that poor guy is just jealous because explorers take better pictures than the ones he takes

    You did.... you mentioned Eldon Grove kids and gave the impression they were up to no good...

    I'm saying they are looking after their neighbourhood in seeing off people like you...
    strangers... mooching around.


    FFS mate... dont you start about photographs...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Went past the Eldon Grove flats on saturday with 3 other Yo members. As the gate was open we went inside for a few pics.

    It is so sad to see such a wonderful building in this sorry state. A large section of the roof is fire damaged. Most windows are broken. Such a shame. Now it seems not to be locked up the damage may get worse.
    And just to keep it on track...

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    Right...georgie t....

    the Macho keks bit was a wind up....sorry if it upset you..

    Move on...OK...yes. ?
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    I lived in Eldon st. for 5 years ('91 to '96) and though there were problems with the flats,caused by outsiders,it wasn't always!! I dont know who's responsible for the management of these,but I can't see why they've been allowed to get into such a state, as they were fitted out inside,to a fairly good standard!

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    you was being the the big man sayin we think were dead hard were not the ones who burn these places down nor do we steal lead or vandalise we document for future generations to see your comments are simply uneducated i couldnt 4ve a toss what your name is or about the kids of that eldon grove by the way they wernt kids who chased the others

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    you was being the the big man sayin we think were dead hard were not the ones who burn these places down nor do we steal lead or vandalise we document for future generations to see your comments are simply uneducated i couldnt 4ve a toss what your name is or about the kids of that eldon grove by the way they wernt kids who chased the others

    I've given you an apology....do you accept it..?
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    Who were these lads then and what is their problem ? ?
    As I see it, no one has a right to chase anyone off from anywhere unless it's property belonging to them. - it's not their private property is it ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Who were these lads then and what is their problem ? ?
    As I see it, no one has a right to chase anyone off from anywhere unless it's property belonging to them. - it's not their private property is it ??
    good point they have as much right as we have of being there which is none they asked the others if they was the police and then just continued to call them plod....what for i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Who were these lads then and what is their problem ? ?

    They are local people Linda.. and their problem is they are fed up with people entering Eldon Grove dwellings and stealing everything out of there....the gates were left wide open and wagons were loading up stealing what they could...stripping the flats of the electricity cables for the copper as well....


    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    As I see it, no one has a right to chase anyone off from anywhere....

    I disagree with you Linda... the police never gave a toss, I saw these pick up trucks coming and going all day taking what they wanted...


    The Council never gave a toss.. the gates were wide open for about a week and thats how this came about..


    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    - it's not their private property is it ??..

    No its not Linda... they just happen to live in the surrounding streets and were probably fed up with nobody doing anything about whet I mentioned above...

    If all this happened on your doorstep Linda would you chase people you thought were up to no good ?..
    I think you would... I know I would..

    george t by the way has not been accused of anything...
    he comes into the category above of local people not knowing who is up to what...


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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    good point they have as much right as we have of being there which is none they asked the others if they was the police and then just continued to call them plod....what for i dont know
    I take it you dont accept my apology ?... fine.


    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    you was being the the big man sayin we think were dead hard were not the ones who burn these places down nor do we steal lead or vandalise we document for future generations to see your comments are simply uneducated i couldnt 4ve a toss what your name is or about the kids of that eldon grove by the way they wernt kids who chased the others

    I'm uneducated ?...my grammar may not be the best but what is that lot above ?
    should'nt there be a few punctuation marks here and there ?



    Quote Originally Posted by georgie t View Post
    ......were not the ones who vandalise

    Wrong... I know for a fact it was "explorers" who kicked open the door of the Jesse Hartley dockers clock...

    and kicked in the old dock building windows next to it to get access..
    I know the "explorer" who did that....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Fleming View Post
    They are local people Linda.. and their problem is they are fed up with people entering Eldon Grove dwellings and stealing everything out of there....the gates were left wide open and wagons were loading up stealing what they could...stripping the flats of the electricity cables for the copper as well....

    I saw these pick up trucks coming and going all day taking what they wanted...













    Well, I agree that's wrong - people just walking in and stripping out what they want - it's a dam-n cheek.
    It's a shame that those flats have been left to the mercy of any Tom Dick & Harry taking what they want. Of course people would get very angry about that. It's a pity there wasn't some kind of security guarding the place.
    But surely it's ok for people to take some photos ??
    It all sounds a bit territorial and would make me think twice about going near there with my camera




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    ha, I just had a funny thought .. of me armed with my camera and wearing me combat cropped pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Well, I agree that's wrong - people just walking in and stripping out what they want - it's a dam-n cheek.
    It's a shame that those flats have been left to the mercy of any Tom Dick & Harry taking what they want. Of course people would get very angry about that. It's a pity there wasn't some kind of security guarding the place.
    But surely it's ok for people to take some photos ??
    It all sounds a bit territorial and would make me think twice about going near there with my camera


    I come and go when I want Linda... I take pics there regularly and have never had a problem..
    just like others on here that have been there several times and had no problem..


    not that I expect a certain person to come out and back me up on that...
    that would be asking too much..

    I find in life Linda people treat you like you treat them...
    as I say.... the kids in that area are good kids.
    and the older people as well

    You can take that from me...
    they are doing what people would do in any area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Well, I agree that's wrong - people just walking in and stripping out what they want - it's a dam-n cheek.
    It's a shame that those flats have been left to the mercy of any Tom Dick & Harry taking what they want. Of course people would get very angry about that. It's a pity there wasn't some kind of security guarding the place.
    But surely it's ok for people to take some photos ??
    It all sounds a bit territorial and would make me think twice about going near there with my camera




    an afterthought .. ..

    ha, I just had a funny thought .. of me armed with my camera and wearing me combat cropped pants

    All I saw yesterday was the binmen!

    However, a fortnight ago, somebody smelling of drink asked to look at my photos.
    I just knew he wanted to grab my camera.

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    like i said we are not the ones who vandalise but i do know of other explorers who have been that desperate to get in somewhere that they have broken down doors to gain access but i never have and have people to vouch for that ..you dont have to name any names i already know who it is who kicked the door in but its been kicked in loads of times after that as far as i know its now locked i video all my access into places on my headcam just incase anyone including police turn up and say we have broke in ...the camera never lies

    as regards to the grammer yehh its a bit messed up but it was typed on my phone and not the best for the internet

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