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    Brothers and sisters, can anyone help me with an 1891 census check?
    My great grandmother (Jane) was in service with her then husband (Reuben Varley,coachman). The information I have so far-they and their son Reuben (born 1886 probably while living in this same position) were in the household of Ralph Mainwaring Dawson,at 23 Fulwood Park Aigburth.
    It is possible that they could have occupied some sort of servants cottage as these properties had grounds of an acre or so, if that were the case, would they show up on the census? I've gone as far as I can using the free sites so would be very grateful for any help.
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    Just looked and have an Alfred Woodhall showing at No 23?
    There are cottages listed for Fullwood Park though its classed as Toxteth Park

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    Sister Lelly,thank you for your help.I would like to explain in a bit more detail the information I have on this one.
    My G.grandmother Jane Pilkington, b1857 in Huyton Quarry, after having two illegitemate sons (one of whom was my grandfather), married in 1883, one Reuben Varley 1829-1889.
    Their daughter Florence b1884 d1884, and son Reuben b1885, I had as being born in Fulwood Park, and christened in St Michael's.I found a reference to the husband being a coachman and gardener at 23 Fulwood Park (but didn't make notes,so I can't remember where). while I was looking for any (free) information, I googled Fulwood Park and found a reference to that address in the national archives.I'm not entirely certain what connection Dawson has, but if you have a Woodall shown I wonder if my folks were in his employ?
    Is it possible for you to look up the Varley family in the 1891 census?
    If that's not successful, the only logical thing I can do is try Ancestry when I'm in a better financial position!
    I hope I'm not asking too much of you sister Lelly,and I appreciate your efforts so far.
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    Hi Tom,

    1894 Directory:

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    Brother Martin, I am indebted to you for that, it seems that I am improving, even if only slightly, with my researching!
    I guess that if sister Lelly can't do a census lookup, I will perhaps have to put this on the backburner as it were.
    If it works out, I will go and get some pictures of the house to send to my American relations, they go nuts about the 'Olde English' stuff.
    Strangely, while checking out Reuben Varley snr (coachman/gardener) on the 1881 census, I found another Reuben Varley, domestic coachman,similar age,different wife,and residing in Crosby. Isn't that typical, you spend ages waiting for a coachman to come along........
    Bye bye brother M, and thanks again
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    Hi Tom

    The only Reuben Varley showing in 1891 in Lancashire with a birth date of approx 1886 is the following- hope that helps. Note the address. is this your Reuben? Could his mother Jane have remarried and become an Eden? Was her other son called Joseph as he also shows as a stepson to the head of the household?



    Person: VARLEY, Reuben
    Address: 28, Houghton Street, Prescot




    EDEN, William Head Married M 35 1856 Coal Miner
    EDEN, Jane Wife Married F 34 1857
    VARLEY, Joseph H E Stepson M 10 1881 Scholar
    EDEN, John Son M 10 1881 Scholar
    EDEN, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
    VARLEY, Reuben Stepson M 5 1886 Scholar
    EDEN, Alice J E Daughter F 0 (7M) 1891


    Does it answer your questions or open up more?
    Last edited by Lelly; 01-03-2011 at 12:53 PM. Reason: spelling

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