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    Hi, Does anyone have any advice on where to search for the occupants of a property in 1921?


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    Hi Lelly, are you trying to find the occupants of a specific address in 1921? ie: who lived at the address?

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    No. 1921? My but that must be one long road.

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    Liverpool Records Office for sure but it's closed down for some time now for renovations.
    www.inacityliving.piczo.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    Hi Lelly, are you trying to find the occupants of a specific address in 1921? ie: who lived at the address?

    Daz
    Hi Daz
    Yes was trying to trace occupants of 2 Medlock St in Kirkdale- shows up on a birth certificate but tried to back track to 1911 census in case it gave clues but number 2 doesnt show up for that street then *help*
    trying to trace a date of birth for a resident there noted on the birth certificate so I can backtrack further

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    are you a member of ancestry or similar ?, if
    so search there

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    are you a member of ancestry or similar ?, if
    so search there
    Yes but there isnt a 1921 census available

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    Here's the house....
    http://www.kirkdaleonline.co.uk/Hist...%20Street2.jpg

    ---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:38 PM ----------

    Whoever submitted that photo might know? have you tied that site? ie www.kirkdaleonline.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelly View Post
    Hi Daz
    Yes was trying to trace occupants of 2 Medlock St in Kirkdale- shows up on a birth certificate but tried to back track to 1911 census in case it gave clues but number 2 doesnt show up for that street then *help*
    trying to trace a date of birth for a resident there noted on the birth certificate so I can backtrack further
    Hi lelly,

    2 Medlock Street doesn't appear on my 1970 map. It shows the even numbers starting with 6 Medlock. My first thought was that the developer had knocked through the walls of numbers 2, 4, & 6 to create a larger dwelling and perhaps just kept number 6 for the new address? I'm now wondering whether this was likely as the plot still seems too small to have fitted three properties on it originally?

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    2 Medlock Street doesn't appear on my 1970 map.
    This is notouriously,it happened quite a lot before and after the warwere houses were knocked down due to their condition or just basically walls collapsed with a view to demolishing them if the need arised.

    Tuebrooks Silverdale avenue,Hillbury Avenue and the next street all had their lower numbered house demolished hence why you can see waste ground in their place.

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    Hi Lelly,
    The only time No 2 Medlock St shows up for the 1st time is on the 1881 census, the tenant then was a Matthew Carruthers who was a joiner by trade and a keeper of sweet shop and dairyman, maybe it was a slip of the registrars hand regarding the door No
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    double post again, sorry.
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    Thanks everyone... I wonder if a house could have been turned into a flat and renumbered as no. 2? Its defo no 2 on the birth certificate

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    9Whats the probabilty the map numbers are wrong on that sideof the road??

    And what about that oller on the opposite side,Daz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelly View Post
    Thanks everyone... I wonder if a house could have been turned into a flat and renumbered as no. 2? Its defo no 2 on the birth certificate
    We need a Gore's or Kelly's Street directory for 1921, or close to, to see what's listed? Here's the map from 1927 [as close as I could get to 1921]. Notice numbers 6 & 8 are recorded as one property [LRO].

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    9Whats the probabilty the map numbers are wrong on that sideof the road??

    And what about that oller on the opposite side,Daz
    Less likely George...the numbering is consistent on maps of different years. Here's the one for 1954 [LRO]
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    Gore's Street Directory, 1900

    Elizabeth B. ['Elizabeth' is the surname, so could be male or female?] who is a chandler by trade lives at 2 Medlock Street, in 1900. Next door at number 4 Medlock Street was Thomas H. Flawn who was a boot & shoemaker.

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    I suggest you put a post into the Gores/ Kelly look-up thread. Someone may have access to a directory around 1921.
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    1894 drirectory for Medlock St ( top left of jpg )

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    She's looking for number 2,Mart

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    Thanks to all for taking the time to look

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    She's looking for number 2,Mart
    No 2 is on there, I meant top left side is Medlock St
    half way down is east side - starting even Nos - No 2
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    I don't get this...why does it say " Here is Rumney Road East side "

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    I don't get this...why does it say " Here is Rumney Road East side "
    Rumney Road is the last reference on the West side directory, then it goes on to the East, as Mart said.

    2 Medlock Street must be the corner building shown on you earlier photo George, facing the back-entry/ jigger. I think that 2, 4 & 6 were later knocked through as one structure, and by 1954/55 map is recorded as just 6 Medlock. All property south of the back-entry belong to the houses fronting Westminster Road.

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    When a street has another running across it, its gets a mention in the directory
    e.g.
    1 high st
    3 high st
    5 hight st
    7 high st
    low st
    9 high st
    11 high st

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