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    Default Scousers are born in Liverpool.

    Please, I was born in Walton hospital "A Walton Bung baby" And I am proud to be a Scouser. But I get well miffed when people tag onto "Scouse" or are claimed as a scouser just because they are in the public eye and are not a true Scouser ! It's a "Birthright" to profess "I am a scouser" And this right should not be handed out Willy Nilly !!! Justice


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    So lets say yer Ma and Da are on holiday in Blackpool and she's not far off giving birth to you,she gets rushed to the nearest Maternity hospital in Blackpool and you pop out an hour later...does this mean your scouse or a lancky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    So lets say yer Ma and Da are on holiday in Blackpool and she's not far off giving birth to you,she gets rushed to the nearest Maternity hospital in Blackpool and you pop out an hour later...does this mean your scouse or a lancky?
    At least entitled to call his or herself a "Poolie."

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    Anything except a Scouser

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    Blackpudding.

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    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
    Ah yes, you can't whack a 'recent' convert for true staunchness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
    I think you'll find that in 1961 Walton was definitely in Liverpool ! On my birth certificate It's Liverpool North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
    True that Daz , Justice is what's known as a Wauser head !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
    I've had quite a few shakey Scouse credentials, especially after pub crawls along County Road.
    I'm a scouser and proud of it, but see nothing wrong in endowing some lesser mortals with the "honourary scouser" title, provided they are a credit to our city.

    Wasn't Liverpool once part of the parish of Walton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I thought Walton had shakey Scouse credentials, as it was only absorbed by Livepool's town boundaries in 1895. People born in Walton were known as Wausers to the real towers.
    Ha,ha, that will cause some fun down the pub'....."eh,you wauser,come 'ere"!

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    True dat. Walton is far older than Liverpool. St Mary's Walton-on-the-Hill was the parish church of Liverpool until 1699 when St Nicks was made the parish church. That means that until 1699 Liverpool had to pay its dues to the rector of Walton!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    True dat. Walton is far older than Liverpool. St Mary's Walton-on-the-Hill was the parish church of Liverpool until 1699 when St Nicks was made the parish church. That means that until 1699 Liverpool had to pay its dues to the rector of Walton!
    De certainly did,didn't de doh!

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    Thanks fortinian. Yes, Wausers [citizens of Walton] wore the trousers when Liverpool was a mere back water in the 16th century.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    I think you'll find that in 1961 Walton was definitely in Liverpool ! On my birth certificate It's Liverpool North.
    But I'll bet it doesn't convey the honour of Scouser on your birth certificate though? Walton was a relatively recent 'Scouse' acquisition in back in 1895. Fast-forward 66 years to your birth year...the paint has hardly had the time to dry.

    We'll let you off with a Scouse permit [on default] that you can use around the city.
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    Is Ricky Tomlinson a scouser seeing as he was born in Blackpool?
    I too was born at Walton Hospital (as was Paul McCartney) I read somewhere that you cannot be more scouse if you were born in Walton.

    Now, ive wrestled with this one. I was born in Liverpool in 1959 and lived in Orrel Park until I was 4. Then we moved to Widnes. So, am I a scouser or am I a Woolyback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworld View Post
    Now, ive wrestled with this one. I was born in Liverpool in 1959 and lived in Orrel Park until I was 4. Then we moved to Widnes. So, am I a scouser or am I a Woolyback?
    'Am I a Woolyback'?

    Let's see then... 'from Liverpool, lived in Orrel Park...and then moved to Widnes'. I'd say your trousers were cut from the finest Liverpool cloth, and then lined with Cheshire fleece? Non of your grumbling now, they'll come in handy this winter.

    I'm just jesting, please forgive me? I was born in Walton too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    True dat. Walton is far older than Liverpool. St Mary's Walton-on-the-Hill was the parish church of Liverpool until 1699 when St Nicks was made the parish church. That means that until 1699 Liverpool had to pay its dues to the rector of Walton!
    That's what I was thinking.

    I've always maintained that, just as a Cockney is born within the sound of the Bow Bells, a true Scouser is born within the sound of the bells of Walton church .. my grandad was born in Ismay st, and my dad Emery st - - that's near enough to Walton church in my book !


    I've never heard this word wauser !

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    So a Scouser born within the bells of St Mary's church is a Waltonian surely eh Lindy.

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    ha,ha, It's my own little theory that keeps me happy

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    I trust that you North-Enders, in your bid to establish your credentials over the upstart Liverpool, recognise that there were various other ancient Bronze Age villages dotted around Merseyside that may even pre-date your cherished Walton. How about Wavyrtree? (Can't say I'm really sure, but I like flying kites... until they hit the deck...)

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    I wuz broken hearted when a girl I fancied said that she was a Liverpolitan whilst I was a Liverpudlian.
    Gateacre v Scottie . "Your loss" said I, as we left the floor of the Locarno.
    I really was a Graftonite!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellergreen View Post
    I really was a Graftonite!.
    Wasn't Superman afraid of this?
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    Its all an accident of birth, 'though some endeavour to make a profession of it. Take a leaf from The Book of Oudeis and have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    So a Scouser born within the bells of St Mary's church is a Waltonian surely eh Lindy.

    Dazza, he'd definitely be a scouser, but a deaf one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    Wasn't Superman afraid of this?

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    So does that mean if your born in Birkenhead your a Birk and if your born in Wallasey your a Wally.

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    What about if you come from Speke,Aigburth,Anfield,Tuebrook,etc,for example? Are/were there local nicknames,etc,that we no longer hear? The only one I've heard of is "Mudmen",who come from Garston!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    What about if you come from Speke,Aigburth,Anfield,Tuebrook,etc,for example? Are/were there local nicknames,etc,that we no longer hear? The only one I've heard of is "Mudmen",who come from Garston!
    They must of had names for each other? We could always make some up!

    I think identity has more to do with where your heart resides, rather than just simply a matter of where you were born. A lot of black Americans feel 'African' despite being born in DC, Atlanta or New York etc... Imigrants describe themselves [even after several generations] in a double-barrelled form: African-American, Irish-American, [oddly enough you don't hear of too many 'English-Americans'...the old enemy] French-Canadian, etc...

    So I'm not surprised many would see themselves as Liverpudlian, [Liverpolitan?] or Scouse, if there is a family connection here.
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    When I worked in Speke, they were called Spekeites. Mudmen were from under the bridge only in Garston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    They must of had names for each other? We could always make some up!

    I think identity has more to do with where your heart resides, rather than just simply a matter of where you were born. A lot of black Americans feel 'African' despite being born in DC, Atlanta or New York etc... Imigrants describe themselves [even after several generations] in a double-barrelled form: African-American, Irish-American, [oddly enough you don't hear of too many 'English-Americans'...the old enemy] French-Canadian, etc...

    So I'm not surprised many would see themselves as Liverpudlian, [Liverpolitan?] or Scouse, if there is a family connection here.
    Hi Daz

    More correctly, the term "African American" is the current politically correct term used in the United States to designate people who until the Sixties were known as "blacks" or "negroes" or "coloreds" and then in the Sixties and Seventies "Afro-Americans." So it is not actually to do with immigrants but more used to designate black families that have mostly been here for generations, often since the time of slavery.

    All the best

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