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    Boards went up a while back around Charles Wooton College on Upper Parliament Street. Now there's signs up advertising "Parliament Square", more luxury apartments. Very little detail at the site and I can't find anything on the web at the moment.

    If there's going to be yet more apartments on the site of something connected with the city's history, can't they at least keep the name, in memory of Charles Wooton? Wooton Square isn't that bad? Parliament Square just seems bland and faceless to me.


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    In 1919 Charles Wooton was murdered by a white mob in Liverpool. This incident provoked an uprising of Blacks in almost all areas where they had settled. This set a pattern of resistance that was to characterize the Black experience in this country right up to the present day.

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    The rioting first broke out in Liverpool on Thursday 5th June. It began in a pub when a Coloured man picked up a glass of beer and threw it at a group of Scandinavians at another table: "The Scandinavians left the premises and in the street were assaulted by the coloured men with sticks, knives, razors and pieces of iron torn from lampposts."

    The Blacks then went on a general rampage, assaulting three old men and a policeman. A crowd of about 2,000 Whites gathered, but were dispersed by the police. The Blacks were not grateful for their rescue, however, and showed their resentment of police interference by shooting one policeman in the mouth and slashing another across the face with a razor.

    Rioting broke out again on Sunday 8th June. An account of subsequent court proceedings said that a Coloured man had been running along the street waving an iron bar and shouting "Down with the white race." The account continued: "White men appear determined to clear out the blacks, who have been advised to remain indoors. This counsel many of them disregard, and late on Sunday a large body of police had to be requisitioned to prevent serious consequences. Whenever a negro was seen he was chased and, if caught, severely beaten..."

    The pattern was repeated late on the night of Monday 9th June. Another account of court proceedings read: "Evidence was given to the effect that the district was in uproar and every coloured man seen was followed by large hostile crowds. In two instances the negroes, on being attacked, pulled out knives and razors and attempted to stab some of the crowd. On was heard to shout, 'Come on, you English dogs, I will do for you.'"

    Fresh disturbances in the early hours of Wednesday 11th June were also reported. A correspondent telephoning from Liverpool at one o'clock in the morning said that "the streets were filled with thousands of excited people."

    Source: The British Race Riots of 1919
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    Default Windsor Pub

    Quote Originally Posted by iain View Post
    Boards went up a while back around Charles Wooton College on Upper Parliament Street. Now there's signs up advertising "Parliament Square", more luxury apartments. Very little detail at the site and I can't find anything on the web at the moment.

    If there's going to be yet more apartments on the site of something connected with the city's history, can't they at least keep the name, in memory of Charles Wooton? Wooton Square isn't that bad? Parliament Square just seems bland and faceless to me.
    Would the now demolished and near by Windsor Pub have undergone such a renovation. This delightful building has been replaced by an indescribably tedious "apartment" block clearly built down to a price.

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    Where was that one?

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    Where was that one?
    The Windsor Hotel Pub was on the corner of Beaumont St and Kingsley Rd. Really just along from what became known as the Charles Wooten centre. The area where the pub was sited was once called Windsor and hence the pub's name.

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    The Windsor pub was better known as the Clock

    I used to live opposite it,in Beaumont Street

    http://toxteth.net/places/liverpool/...indsor%202.htm
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    Thanks, Iain, Taffy, and Robbo, for this information. Iain, I agree that the name of Charles Wooton should not be forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    The Windsor Hotel Pub was on the corner of Beaumont St and Kingsley Rd. Really just along from what became known as the Charles Wooten centre. The area where the pub was sited was once called Windsor and hence the pub's name.
    Here's one of my photos, of the Windsor, 21 years ago.
    Outstanding building!
    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...indsor%202.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Here's one of my photos, of the Windsor, 21 years ago.
    Outstanding building!
    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...indsor%202.htm
    Thanks, Philip. Another fine building lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Thanks, Philip. Another fine building lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    I didn't realise Mandy had given the same link.
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    I think I remember this scheme-CWC is around number 240 or so,isn't it? If so what I remember is that it was to be converted to flats,not demolished for new build. Don't quote me on that-LCC's planning explorer is down so I can't check...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Thanks, Iain, Taffy, and Robbo, for this information. Iain, I agree that the name of Charles Wooton should not be forgotten.

    Chris
    I never knew who Charles Wooton was, or what his history was in the area, until I went on a course in work about race. If I hadn't learned who he was I probably wouldn't have been too bothered about the name.

    I wonder if they're going to convert the building into apartments, or knock it down? EDIT - sorry didn't read Dave's post before
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    The Windsor pub was better known as the Clock

    I used to live opposite it,in Beaumont Street

    http://toxteth.net/places/liverpool/...indsor%202.htm
    Thanks for the picture, quite a building, I don't recall seeing it before. Not sure if I want to go down there and see what replaced it

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    ON THE Former Windsor Pub is A new build appartment block of around 3 floors, i think most are still empty you can rent them on rightmove for around 450£ pounds,bit xpensive 4 that areas

    Who would wanna live right on the cnr of parliament/kingsley its a very busy juction with the 86BUS going past now every 10-15mins

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    My only memory of that area is of a rough pub called The Cleavdon Arms, I went in with a mate and the regulars accused us of going in the week before and selling them bogus raffle tickets. As they say in the newspapers we made our excuses and left (rapidly).
    There is another signs up for new build in Upper Hampton Street behind the original District Nurses building (now the Nightingale Hotel)

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    I went there last week to take photos of my old neighbourhood and was upset to see that the Windsor had been demolished

    when I first started drawing I used to look out my bedroom window & sit there for hours drawing the Windsor, I wish I'd kept all of my sketches now
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    There's a render of Parliament Square in the current issue of 'Your Move'.
    The old building will be incorporated in the development.
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    Looks like the new-ish student apartments on Crown St. At least they're keeping the original building too.

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