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    Quote Originally Posted by mike delamar View Post
    the cheshire lines railway tunnels from kirkdale to walton on the hill?

    is that what you mean there, that there is tunnels alongside it?

    what that was, is that the tunnels were built in case the line ever had to be widened from 2 tracks to 4, but they never removed the cutting in front of them,

    you can see that all along the bridges and tunnels on the the cheshire lines railway bike path to halewood, there wernt any platforms at kirkdale for this line,


    kirkdale station on the lancashire and yorkshire railway, the one that is still used, only ever had the 2 platforms on the slow lines, same as it is now, the lines next to that which got lifted in the late 1960s early 70s where what was called the fast lines, from walton junction to liverpool exchange, trains that where not going to stop at kirkdale used these lines, because the electric trains stopped at every station,

    ive got some more pics of the tunnels in the steam days somewhere, ill dig em out

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    great hope you find them photos there just does seem to any pics of that bit of kirkdale station,

    thanks now i know why there are 2 tunnels next to eachother so they just built 2 incase they needed 4 lines but decided they didnt so thats why the 2nd tunnel was never complete and leads to a dead end?

    so this branch did cross the cutting for the canada dock branch so did the bridge crossing it get removed and when?

    thanks i understand how kirkdale station worked now it just seems confussing as there are so many branchs running through it i hope you find a photo of the old stair way that was knocked down which lead to that fast lane track i always thought it lead to the 2 tunnels in the corrner and the canada dock branch ya see

    also i was thinking of visiting the site of spellow station do you or anyoneelse know how i would get to it of has anyone got resant pics of what state it is in now?


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    I don't think anything exists of Spellow Station now. All the station buildings have been cleared away, I don't even think the platforms are there either.

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    got a video here of a cab ride along the bootle branch, made in the late 80s, shows theres still some platform remains at spellow and walton and anfield at that time, think theyre just overgrown now

    i think you can see from the entrys at the back of houses on romley st(providing theres no gates on the entry now)

    if not could try the bottom of goodison road, or from city road bridge, youll be able to tell from there, dont think its that high to look over

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike delamar View Post
    got a video here of a cab ride along the bootle branch, made in the late 80s, shows theres still some platform remains at spellow and walton and anfield at that time, think theyre just overgrown now

    i think you can see from the entrys at the back of houses on romley st(providing theres no gates on the entry now)

    if not could try the bottom of goodison road, or from city road bridge, youll be able to tell from there, dont think its that high to look over

    mike
    nice one m8 na they av them daft black gates on i aint tha sad yet to wait till the bin men come early in the morning i would love to see tha vid please can you take any screen capsions?

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    From the Subterranean Britannica site on Disused Railway Stations:

    http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ow/index.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    nice one m8 na they av them daft black gates on i aint tha sad yet to wait till the bin men come early in the morning i would love to see tha vid please can you take any screen capsions?

    yeah no probs,

    only thing is just got this new windows vista and vlc media player which i use to screen capture dosent work with it just yet, and its on video not dvd, but ill try and take a pic of the telly and see if that works

    if you ever want to try and get hold of a copy its called "choppers and hoppers"


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    did a video clip of it instead

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yACLdKg9R1U

    starts just before the old walton and anfield station, down to bootle junction, which is between bank hall and oriel road stations,

    poor quality im afraid, just the camera in front of the telly


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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    no i have pics of county road of the old station building its now the bookies i just need to find a way to take pics of spellow station below county road thought your house backed onto it or something no worries i wil keep tryin please visit my website at www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk

    it you lucky day.. i live just behind arnots school.. as soon as i get chance i will{beave the rats} and get on the back wall and take you some pics....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike delamar View Post
    got a video here of a cab ride along the bootle branch, made in the late 80s, shows theres still some platform remains at spellow and walton and anfield at that time, think theyre just overgrown now

    i think you can see from the entrys at the back of houses on romley st(providing theres no gates on the entry now)

    if not could try the bottom of goodison road, or from city road bridge, youll be able to tell from there, dont think its that high to look over

    mike


    that is top........ive just seen the back off my house......all ways wanted to know what it was like.


    dose any one know if there is anothe line round the same place just underground. ?

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    that all your rubbish thats been thrown over?

    errr, not deeper than that one to be honest, but there are others, nearest would be around kirkdale,


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    wow that is a great video i saw loads i needed to see so the spellow station platforms are still there but the stairs have gone also the old tunnel to canada dock station was still there in the cutting at kirkdale thanks 4 that also LIVERLAD08 i hope you are able to take clear photos over ya back that would be boss i have been waiting for ages to find someone who lived near that spellow cutting thats so luckey

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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    great hope you find them photos there just does seem to any pics of that bit of kirkdale station,

    i hope you find a photo of the old stair way that was knocked down which lead to that fast lane track
    From my memory of using Kirkdale in the late 60s, the old stairwell led down to the booking office level and then onwards to the 2 platforms .

    You could either travel on the diesels to Exchange or Kirkby/Wigan or the electrics to Exchange or Ormskirk the other 2 lines (FAST) had no platforms

    I've just posted a 1928 Liverpool map on the forum , this shows many of the Old Stations such as Spellow Lane and many of the other branches

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by floyd View Post
    I have been lurking for a few days and it is absolutely fabulous what you are doing here to make people aware of their history and ancestry.
    I joined after seeing the picture of St James Station and my boyfriend saying "See those steps, I have been down those hundreds of times"
    He works on the railway and has access to the platforms and an interesting series of rooms that originally would have housed the station master and other platform staff. The rooms are located on the left of the photograph under the arched bridge (called bridge 6 on the schematic) and apparently contain general rubbish left by railway staff. He has promised to take some pictures of the rooms and surrounding area next time he is on days.
    He thinks that if there was anything interesting such as signage or documents it would have been flogged by now but he will look anyway.


    Did your boyfriend ever get any pics?

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    there was a lot of litter on that track, but what a clip, cheers Mike
    Last edited by chippie; 08-18-2007 at 05:20 PM. Reason: forgotten who posted it

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    He tried with his camera phone but the quality was pap so he is going to take our digital down there next time. I haven't forgotten

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    There you go. Taken today 30/08/2007

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    If you lot want any more pictures of the railway then I can get them for you. Be aware that it can take months for me to get to a particular site to take photo's. We go where the computer tells us to go (via work orders). And we can't go on track for no reason. A lot of places don't have access during the day. But if I can I will. Let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by babaconda View Post
    If you lot want any more pictures of the railway then I can get them for you. Be aware that it can take months for me to get to a particular site to take photo's. We go where the computer tells us to go (via work orders). And we can't go on track for no reason. A lot of places don't have access during the day. But if I can I will. Let me know!
    Brilliant brilliant photos!!! Thanks so much
    Any more info/pics anybody has of this station would be greatly appreciated.
    I know it was featured in the Echo a few years back but my mum threw the paper out...typical!

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    Lookin' for info about Wavertree, I found this web site...

    http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ee/index.shtml

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    Hello Babaconda, thanks for sharing your excellent pics

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    great photos Baba. Stay safe going around those rails, and keep taking photos.

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    wow the old st james station photos are great no photos can be took of this site anymore and i cant belive u actally got down there when i pass the site on the train it goes past to fast i can never get a good photo of it there is rumors of this station reopening hope it does, there are a few stations i cant get to that i would love to see what is left i went to wavetree station yesterday and took photos as i got in the door that blocks the entry to the old staion site it is probley sealed back up now so i was lucky to get the photos a station i would love to see what is left is spellow but i cant get down there and i cant see over the wall it was very similar to st james station in a deep cutting hope you get the chance to get photos of what it looks like now my site is www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk if anyones intrested

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    Quote Originally Posted by babaconda View Post
    If you lot want any more pictures of the railway then I can get them for you. Be aware that it can take months for me to get to a particular site to take photo's. We go where the computer tells us to go (via work orders). And we can't go on track for no reason. A lot of places don't have access during the day. But if I can I will. Let me know!
    Amazing, thanks for these pictures and the offer of more!

    Two quick questions: there is a black door in the wall at Liverpool Central on the north end of the Southport platform. Ive always wondered what that was for (and where it went)

    And another random door one , there are a few large white doors at Moorfields Old Hall street entrance, and there is even a seperate (closed) entrance next to the main one that has just a Wirral Line sign over it. It even looks like there is space for an extra escalator, too. I'm thinking its a dedicated passage to the wirral platform that was never used.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKie View Post

    Two quick questions: there is a black door in the wall at Liverpool Central on the north end of the Southport platform. Ive always wondered what that was for (and where it went)
    Could you describe in more detail where this is? Is it in the wall on the far side of the railway? As you look towards Southport is it on the left?

    Its probably nothing too exciting. There are a lot of small rooms around for water pumps. Water is continuously being removed from the tunnels.

    Again I'll try to find out what its for but it might take me a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by babaconda View Post
    Could you describe in more detail where this is? Is it in the wall on the far side of the railway? As you look towards Southport is it on the left?

    Its probably nothing too exciting. There are a lot of small rooms around for water pumps. Water is continuously being removed from the tunnels.

    Again I'll try to find out what its for but it might take me a while!
    Yep, on the far side under all the station signs. The dor is partially cut into the corrugated wall covering. There are two large holes near it so it could be for ventilation.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marie View Post
    Lookin' for info about Wavertree, I found this web site...

    http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ee/index.shtml
    A station there, or at Smithdown Rd, would be really useful. Especially with all the students in the area. Someone here posted something ages ago about Merseyrail having it in their long-term plans to reopen some of these old stations, including the Sefton Park (Smithdown Rd) one. Of course they'd have to rebuild it first though.

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    I still say that Liverpool Council would be sitting on a gold mine by re-opening the Halewood/Bootle loopline with an old set of steam trains. All of the structures are still there, the station exit and entrances are still there and it is such a place to travel as you feel you are out in the country when you head through halewood. There is no direct way to get from say West Derby to Gateacre on transport, but hop on an old steam train through the West Derby cutting would be magical!

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    good point about liverpool central and the black door well i found out resantly that it leads to another unused platform built in the 1970s when the loop line was built if you look out the window just before you reach liverpool central from moorfields i have a photo somewhere that a worker for merseyrail took you will see the old blocked tunnel that leads to the disused platform it was built for another line that was planned that would used the waterloo tunnel but the idea and platform have been forgot about since the 1970s but now in 2007 merseyrail are to upgrade liverpool central and they could use this platform as they are plannin to reuse the waterloo tunnel hope it happens as for other stations reopening it will happen but only in the long run it will take time and money
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    good point about liverpool central and the black door well i found out resantly that it leads to another unused platform built in the 1970s when the loop line was built if you look out the window just before you reach liverpool central from moorfields i have a photo somewhere that a worker for merseyrail took you will see the old blocked tunnel that leads to the disused platform it was built for another line that was planned that would used the waterloo tunnel but the idea and platform have been forgot about since the 1970s but now in 2007 merseyrail are to upgrade liverpool central and they could use this platform as they are plannin to reuse the waterloo tunnel hope it happens as for other stations reopening it will happen but only in the long run it will take time and money
    I know exactly where you mean. In the run up to where the platform is there are a lot of equipment cupboards. Its not impossible to move these. But it would take a lot of time. I haven't heard anything about them opening an extra platform. And I work on the tracks.

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