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    some info here on altcar and theres also a bit on spellow station aswell


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    Is there any part of the Overhead Railway still standing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shapers View Post
    Is there any part of the Overhead Railway still standing?
    Here the Overhead Railway Thread:

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1975
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    please has anyone got reasant photos of spellow station site can you still get to it from the station building on county road that is now a bookmakers or has the stairway been demolished? anychance someone could get some photos?
    I can take photos from County Rd for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    I can take photos from County Rd for you
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    that would be great how would you do it i thought the only way was from arnot street school theres a little wall looking down onto the station site well they used to when i was in school there but i was never tall enogth to see what was left of the station i would go now but it wouldt look right me going into a kids playground to take pics over a wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    that would be great how would you do it i thought the only way was from arnot street school theres a little wall looking down onto the station site well they used to when i was in school there but i was never tall enogth to see what was left of the station i would go now but it wouldt look right me going into a kids playground to take pics over a wall
    I have no idea as I'm only 5ft tall so I think even standing on tippee toes I still won't be tall enough
    I thought you wanted pics from County Rd
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    no i have pics of county road of the old station building its now the bookies i just need to find a way to take pics of spellow station below county road thought your house backed onto it or something no worries i wil keep tryin please visit my website at www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk

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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    no i have pics of county road of the old station building its now the bookies i just need to find a way to take pics of spellow station below county road thought your house backed onto it or something no worries i wil keep tryin please visit my website at www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk
    no sorry I live close to Walton Rd

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    @Oritelad

    I have seen a picture of the station you are on about and I am trying to find it for you. Its a two-storey building with the platforms on the upper level.

    In the mean time, I found this old picture of Exchange from here.

    For 50 points can anyone tell us what the huge domed shaped building is in the background on the right?
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    Blimey! Check out the Formby Powerhouse photos on that website!!

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    Walton Stations and Orrel Park Station - Pics courtesy of Liverpool City Library and the Records Office images:
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    Nice one Kev

    Great pics these stations make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenface View Post
    @Oritelad

    I have seen a picture of the station you are on about and I am trying to find it for you. Its a two-storey building with the platforms on the upper level.

    In the mean time, I found this old picture of Exchange from here.

    For 50 points can anyone tell us what the huge domed shaped building is in the background on the right?
    The old Customs House?

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    [QUOTE=goldenface;50982]@Oritelad

    I have seen a picture of the station you are on about and I am trying to find it for you. Its a two-storey building with the platforms on the upper level.

    In the mean time, I found this old picture of Exchange from here.

    For 50 points can anyone tell us what the huge domed shaped building is in the background on the right?[/QUOTE]



    St Paul's Church in St Paul's Square.
    The Stadium was built on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Walton Stations and Orrel Park Station - Pics courtesy of Liverpool City Library and the Records Office images:
    The first station pic is actually Walton & Anfield (Originally opened as Walton for Aintree, but the name was changed as it was very confusing for passengers, who alighted & found that Aintree was a fair few miles away!!). Walton & Anfield is not to be confused with the present Walton station on the Northern Line. It was located near to the Cherry Lane end of Walton Village & was part of the Canada Dock branch, but as with most of the stations on the line (incl Spellow, which was one stop away) it closed in 1948. There were proposals to reopen most of the stations on the Canada Dock branch, back in the 70's as part of new Merseyrail. However this never materialised and the line remained freight only. However, there is talk by Merseyrail of the possibility of reopening the branch to passengers once again in the future. You never know..!

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    Aren´t there any old station? In Liverpool or near...
    Thanks u!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    Anyone got or knows how to get sum old photos of kirkdale station?

    this was taken in the late 1950s from stanley road, kirkdale station is in the distance, and on the left is bank hall, steam engine shed, which closed in 1966, theres an old electric train heading towards liverpool exchange and steam engines on shed, the sidings on the right have gone now, as as the huge coaling stage and old fashioned semaphore signals,

    i know a gent who worked as a cleaner/fireman/driver on the steamers there from 1941 to 66, then he moved to edge hill, and retired in 1990



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    Wow1 That must be a blast from the past for some people. How its changed now. Those old Electric Units were going for decades weren't they?

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    yeah the old,

    london midland and scottish railway ones (LMS)

    "love marraige and starvation"

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    "let me sleep"

    my old driver mate who used to work for the company calls it


    theyre from the 30s and lasted til the late 70s,

    my ol mate used to have to drive them sometimes on sundays and hated them, he said he called himself a glorified tram driver hehe


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    wow that photo is great cant believe how much it has changed the lines to the right are even closed there and that was 1950 i went today in 2007 through the old tunnels it was a great experience

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    yeah they where like an overspil carraige sidings for when the ones on the left where full up, like grand national or football specials etc, they went in the 60s

    you cant see on this but to the extreme right in a cutting, another line ran from huskisson, which is by sandhills station to walton, the tunnel is in the far right corner

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    yes thats the tunnel i walked through it leads to the old walton on the hill station there is also another tunnel next to it that leads to a dead end also theres another tunnel under it that leads to the old spellow station, kirkdale is boss i wish i could find a photo of when them to branches had platforms

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    Central Station - 1890 - Liverpool Records Office
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    Quote Originally Posted by oritelad View Post
    yes thats the tunnel i walked through it leads to the old walton on the hill station there is also another tunnel next to it that leads to a dead end also theres another tunnel under it that leads to the old spellow station, kirkdale is boss i wish i could find a photo of when them to branches had platforms

    the cheshire lines railway tunnels from kirkdale to walton on the hill?

    is that what you mean there, that there is tunnels alongside it?

    what that was, is that the tunnels were built in case the line ever had to be widened from 2 tracks to 4, but they never removed the cutting in front of them,

    you can see that all along the bridges and tunnels on the the cheshire lines railway bike path to halewood, there wernt any platforms at kirkdale for this line,


    kirkdale station on the lancashire and yorkshire railway, the one that is still used, only ever had the 2 platforms on the slow lines, same as it is now, the lines next to that which got lifted in the late 1960s early 70s where what was called the fast lines, from walton junction to liverpool exchange, trains that where not going to stop at kirkdale used these lines, because the electric trains stopped at every station,

    ive got some more pics of the tunnels in the steam days somewhere, ill dig em out

    cheers

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    http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/rail/incline/lls.htm

    Liverpool Lime St

    From 1836 until 1870 trains into Liverpool Lime St were hauled by a stationary steam engine and shunted by horses. There was another cable hauled railway from Crown St station to Edge Hill.

    The locomotives would run as far as Edge Hill cutting where they would be detached with loaded coaches being cable hauled through a short tunnel by winding engines at the passenger terminus at Crown Street; returning coaches ran down to Edge Hill by gravity. Goods traffic was handled at the Wapping Goods station close to Liverpool Docks. This was reached by an impressive 2030 metre tunnel from Edge Hill cutting; wagons were cable hauled up from Wapping and descended by gravity


    The Crown Street passenger terminus soon proved inadequate due to its size and distance from the city centre and it was closed on 15th August 1836 on the opening of a new terminus at Lime Street, much closer to the city centre. This was reached by a new double track 1006 metre tunnel; although the new line was less steep than Wapping it was still cable hauled. A new engine house was built at Edge Hill, in what is now the station building.

    Steam for this engine was supplied from a boiler in the old Edge Hill cutting through a long tunnel excavated through the sandstone on the north side of the cutting; this was known as the 'steam tunnel'; the boiler was housed in a chamber cut into the cutting wall. Goods and coal traffic continued to be handled at the old Crown Street station and a second wider tunnel into Crown Street was driven in about 1846. In the 1860's in order to facilitate a new track alignment the Edge Hill cutting w! as widened forcing the demolition of the Moorish Arch.

    From 1870, the line into Lime Street was locomotive hauled and a huge chimney with a powered fan was built on Smithdown Lane, near Edge Hill. This was only used for a few years although the chimney lasted until just before WW2. Smoke in the tunnel was always a problem so after a couple of accidents and the need for increased traffic, the two track tunnel was opened up into a deep four track cutting with seven short lengths of tunnel remaining to support various roads and houses. At Edge Hill a further tunnel opened in 1849, north of the Lime Street tunnel. This was another ambitious undertaking comprising two end on tunnels collectively known as Waterloo.

    The Waterloo Tunnel at 862 metres is, in reality, the shorter of the two tunnels. Immediately to the west of it is the longer Victoria Tunnel at 2475 metres. The tunnels ran north west to Waterloo Goods Station and the harbour railway system and were, again, cable hauled from Edge Hill.

    Cable haulage continued through the Waterloo Tunnel until 1895 when it went over to locomotive haulage and the line was extended to a new passenger station, Riverside, near the pier head, The Wapping Tunnel went over to locomotive haulage the following year. Waterloo Goods Station remained in use until 1963 while Crown Street goods terminal lasted a further five years, closing in 1968; the site was landscaped in 1980.

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    Dont know if anyone has seen this but here it is anyway:
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    Exchange Station today

    Outside


    Memorial


    Inside


    To the Rear, where the trains would have arrived.

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    wow! it looks real smart. smashing photos.

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    Lime Street Station

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    Quote Originally Posted by marie View Post
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    Crown Street goods terminal lasted a further five years, closing in 1968; the site was landscaped in 1980.

    sorry to be one of them annoying anoraks, crown st closed in 1972

    mike

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