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    Default st james station - back of cains

    does anyone have any info or pics of this long forgotten station?

    the only info i have is that it closed around 90(!) years ago and has been left ever since

    we took this picture a couple of months back and would be fascinated if anyone could shed some more light


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    This has fascinated me ever since I was kid, we used to travel into town on the train and they would always slow right down around this area and I would wonder about what it all was down there.

    There are steps down to the railway from high above all around there.

    Any info would be appreciated.
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    The facade of the station was still intact in the 70's at the junction of Parly and Park Place.
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    hi kev

    whilst we were looking around there we noticed that the doors were completely sealed.

    there is a mechanics that backs onto the side of the station, and I wonder if they could see more from their premises?

    there are also some flats overlooking it, if only we knew someone that lived there!!


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    there was a piece about the station in the echo a few years back, but my mum threw it away before i had a chance to read it! grrr

    mums eh?

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    I have been lurking for a few days and it is absolutely fabulous what you are doing here to make people aware of their history and ancestry.
    I joined after seeing the picture of St James Station and my boyfriend saying "See those steps, I have been down those hundreds of times"
    He works on the railway and has access to the platforms and an interesting series of rooms that originally would have housed the station master and other platform staff. The rooms are located on the left of the photograph under the arched bridge (called bridge 6 on the schematic) and apparently contain general rubbish left by railway staff. He has promised to take some pictures of the rooms and surrounding area next time he is on days.
    He thinks that if there was anything interesting such as signage or documents it would have been flogged by now but he will look anyway.



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    Quote Originally Posted by floyd View Post
    I have been lurking for a few days and it is absolutely fabulous what you are doing here to make people aware of their history and ancestry.
    I joined after seeing the picture of St James Station and my boyfriend saying "See those steps, I have been down those hundreds of times"
    He works on the railway and has access to the platforms and an interesting series of rooms that originally would have housed the station master and other platform staff. The rooms are located on the left of the photograph under the arched bridge (called bridge 6 on the schematic) and apparently contain general rubbish left by railway staff. He has promised to take some pictures of the rooms and surrounding area next time he is on days.
    He thinks that if there was anything interesting such as signage or documents it would have been flogged by now but he will look anyway.




    wow!!!!!!!!!!

    thats monumental!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thats what i love about this forum! there is always someone who has some valuable info to share with everyone

    thanks again

    would love to see some pics!


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    I'm not an authority on Railways, but I've got some notes in my "Annals".

    The stations at St Michael's, Otterspool and Mersey Road (now Aigburth) opened in 1864.
    (I've no info on the others as far as Garston).

    Central Station and St James' Station opened in 1874, but I don't know where the trains terminated in the previous 10 years.
    It was said that St James Station was built for the congregation of St James Church, (which is just over the road), but that could be an urban myth.

    St James closed in 1916 and Otterspool closed in 1951.

    I think there was/is a book that tried to have photos of all Liverpool's stations.
    Central Library should know.

    This scan is from the OS map of 1890.
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    fascinating philip.
    any idea what that book would be called and how old it is?

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    Look for 'LIVERPOOL ST. JAMES' on this site for some info:
    http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    Look for 'LIVERPOOL ST. JAMES' on this site for some info:
    http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/
    Direct link: http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...es/index.shtml

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    yeah thats a good site, seen that before.
    They do some mad things thosE Sub Britannica people!
    I bet Jona is a member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    yeah thats a good site, seen that before.
    They do some mad things thosE Sub Britannica people!
    I bet Jona is a member!
    Hehe I'm not, but all the places in Liverpool that are 'managed' by Sub Brit, I have a very high up friend in Liverpool City Council who can get me in them.

    Sub Brit did contact me though when they heard about my underground adventures in the Air Raid Shelters next to Littlewoods on Edge Lane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jona76 View Post
    Hehe I'm not, but all the places in Liverpool that are 'managed' by Sub Brit, I have a very high up friend in Liverpool City Council who can get me in them.

    Sub Brit did contact me though when they heard about my underground adventures in the Air Raid Shelters next to Littlewoods on Edge Lane!
    ohhh i knew you would some sort of involvement!! he he

    get me in these places too!!

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    Default Kirkdale Station Old Photos

    Anyone got or knows how to get sum old photos of kirkdale station?

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    Just this one so far...


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    If it's not your photo, give credit.
    Apart from that, it's a cracking pic. Thanks

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    wow thank you that photo is great! keep them coming guys kirkdale is a large station that pic only shows a small bit there are more platforms to the right in that pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    If it's not your photo, give credit.
    Apart from that, it's a cracking pic. Thanks
    Sorry Dave, I've only just realised.

    Credit to 'Springy' off the Scouse House Forum whos scan it is.

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    Default Liverpool's Old Original Station Before Exchange Station

    please can someone help me i am currently working on my new website www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk which is about liverpools railways, stations ect and i am stuck on exchange station as i found out it was not the original station i know it opened in 1850 and used to be called Tithebarn Street railway station and changed to exchange station in 1888 but before 1850 before echange station(tithebarn street station) there was another station near to that site does anyone have any info on this or where about the original staion was? only info i could find was of wikipida and it said:

    ''Liverpool Exchange railway station was a railway station located in Liverpool, England. It opened originally as Tithebarn Street railway station on 13 May 1850, replacing an earlier station at Great Homer street nearby. The station was extensively rebuilt and renamed in 1888, expanding from its original site to cover Clarke's Basin (the original end of the Leeds-Liverpool Canal)''

    (but how can it be a great homer street thats miles away from the exchange station site?)

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    Great Homer Street isn't that far from Exchange at all. Obviously they decided to bring the railway in closer to the city centre and build a proper terminus. To be honest the library in Liverpool is your best bet.

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    There were no railways in Great Homer Street.

    "In 1848 the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway opened the line between Liverpool and Wigan, Bolton, Bury and Rochdale. There was a temporary passenger terminus at Great Howard Street but the line was extended and the Tithebarn Street Station opened in 1850."
    Source: Naomi Evetts, in the Alan Godfrey reprint of the OS map LIverpool (North), 1906, 106.10.

    Great Howard Street then became a Goods Station.

    Naomi Evetts was a librarian at the Record Office, so the present staff should know where she got her information.
    It's also possible to buy the Godfrey maps there.

    The original stations in Liverpool were at Crown Street and Lime Street.
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    well sum good info i have about st james station is that even though its been cloed for so long merseyrail have said they are to reopen it by 2011! aint that great i also have old photos of when the station was open i will upload to my site soon www.oldliverpoolrailways.tk

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    My understanding is that Crown Street was the first railway station in the world, opening on the Liverpool-Manchester Railway -- the world's first -- in 1830. It was superceded just a few years later by Lime Street, after the difficult cut to there was finished, in 1836. After that, Crown Street was used for goods only, and was completely closed in 1972.

    Shame it's not a major landmark now. I guess there's a plaque there. A sensitively done reconstruction would haul in rail nuts from around the globe.

    Great Homer Street in the Exchange Station article on Wikipedia looks like a typo, unfortunately repeated in a couple of articles there, for Great Howard Street.

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    We lived in Ursula Street off Hawthorne Road befor moving up to Crosby.
    An early memory is of being pushed in my pram across a high footbridge over the railway near this station and being panic-stricken when engulfed in smoke from the trains beneath!
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    is there any pic,s of crown street station
    any have any

    all so am looking for pictures of spellow station from when it was in use.
    can anyone help please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liverlad08 View Post
    is there any pic,s of crown street station
    any have any

    all so am looking for pictures of spellow station from when it was in use.
    can anyone help please?
    Crown Street - Source Liverpool City Council
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnarf View Post
    My understanding is that Crown Street was the first railway station in the world, opening on the Liverpool-Manchester Railway -- the world's first -- in 1830. It was superceded just a few years later by Lime Street, after the difficult cut to there was finished, in 1836. After that, Crown Street was used for goods only, and was completely closed in 1972.

    Shame it's not a major landmark now. I guess there's a plaque there. A sensitively done reconstruction would haul in rail nuts from around the globe.

    Great Homer Street in the Exchange Station article on Wikipedia looks like a typo, unfortunately repeated in a couple of articles there, for Great Howard Street.
    Definitely Great Howard Street.
    The station in Great Howard Street was the same site as the Borough Gaol.

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    Default Altcar Rifle Range Railway Station Liverpool

    anyone got any info on this?
    anyone know where it is on google maps?
    any traces left of this old station?
    any photos?
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    Default Kirkdale Station To Spellow Station Liverpool

    please has anyone got photos of what kirkdale used to look like?

    and did it have platforms for the canada dock branch and north liverpool extension that pass the kirkdale station site?

    please has anyone got reasant photos of spellow station site can you still get to it from the station building on county road that is now a bookmakers or has the stairway been demolished? anychance someone could get some photos?

    also anyone got photos inside of the 2 unused tunnels in the back corner of kirkdale station or can anyone get some if the are thinking of visiting the site?

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