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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
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    What did they like so much about Liverpool in the place not the people? I see the place differently to outsiders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    What did they like so much about Liverpool in the place not the people? I see the place differently to outsiders.
    History & culture - museums and art gallery (they were amazed there was so much available), buildings, Albert Dock, Beatles Museum.
    In short - so much to see and do.

    But also, being 20-year-olds, the atmosphere in bars and clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    History & culture - museums and art gallery (they were amazed there was so much available), buildings, Albert Dock, Beatles Museum.
    In short - so much to see and do.

    But also, being 20-year-olds, the atmosphere in bars and clubs.
    They may have been surprised thinking Liverpool was the back of beyond, but "amazed"? Coming up from London, Liverpool is quite small fry when it comes to museums, etc.
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    Amazed is about right. Most of what they'd heard about Liverpool was based upon stereotypical negativeness. They discovered that the reality is somewhat different.

    When we left by coach on the Friday, heading back to London, several stayed behind to enjoy the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Amazed is about right. Most of what they'd heard about Liverpool was based upon stereotypical negativeness. They discovered that the reality is somewhat different.

    When we left by coach on the Friday, heading back to London, several stayed behind to enjoy the weekend.
    Where did you take them? I have to take some people to Liverpool soon. I am not up on what is the best pub/bar/club etc.

    About the stereotype, I took some French people to Liverpool last summer..here is my post on it..


    I went to the Lake District for over a week in July with some French people. On the way up we stopped off in Chester for a night, which they liked. I decide to drop into Liverpool on the way to the Lakes. I never told them. They thought Liverpool was a poor slum not knowing anything about the place apart from the Beatles and that I was from there.

    I entered via the Runcorn bridge and went to Woolton showing them the village and John Lennon's house, then Paul McCartney's house, Strawberry Field, then through the leafy suburbs with huge mature oak trees everywhere and through parks to Aigburth then along Riverside drive to the Albert Dock for coffee. They were very impressed with the Albert Dock and with the level of construction, and wondered what the church was with the birds on top - one is from elegant Paris. I was giving running commentaries: the French wall, the dock system, the American connections, the 1.3 million Irish who entered in the famine, etc.

    The three Graces impressed them. They were amazed at the size of the cathedral - I told them "the world's largest tower and largest Gothic arches". They were impressed with the red colour not having seen red sandstone churches before - never occurred to me it was that different. I pointed out the world's largest brick building too - the the Tobacco warehouse.

    I stopped outside Oriel Chambers and pointed out it that it was the first steel framed glass curtain walled building in the world and all modern building are generally based on it. One said, "it is a very important building then". They were impressed at seeing the White Star Line Building (the Titanic).

    I told them about most of the centre being a World Heritage site and buffer zone. They said "how come Liverpool has all these wonderful buildings and supposed to be so poor?" I told them it was one on the richest cities in the world at one time - they were surprised but replied, "it all fits as poor cities do not have buildings like there are here". We went out via Riverside Drive, Rose Lane, Penny Lane and Queens Drive and the M62. We drove through miles and miles of Liverpool and not a slum in sight anywhere. They liked the red sandstone walls around buildings in the south end of the city.

    On the way home to France, I overheard them saying to others that they were very impressed with Liverpool and never expected it to be so nice.
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    Didn't take them to any clubs or bars - they found them themselves.

    Good source:

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/e...ent/nightlife/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Didn't take them to any clubs or bars - they found them themselves.

    Good source:

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/e...ent/nightlife/
    Which areas did they stick to? Albert Dock? Matthew St? Hardman St? Which areas did they like the best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Which areas did they stick to? Albert Dock? Matthew St? Hardman St? Which areas did they like the best?
    Didn't work that way. They split up into groups and moved around, different people liking different things. I think a lot of them eventually ended up in the Slater St area.

    On the Wednesday night we all went for a meal in Pizza Express (Dale St?). I was paying the bill for all of us (44 people but not my own money) and the gaffer really looked after us with freebie bottles of wine. I guess a group of 44 on a Wed night is quite a bonus!

    When we left, three of the girls (one Finn, one Slovakian, one half Brazilian/half Italian) declared they were going to take me and get me pished.
    Went across the road to a pub a mate runs but for some reason it was closed. Ended up round the corner in my regular hangout in the 70's - The Grapes in Matthew St. It was a great night. Lots of Liverpool and Porto fans ended up there after Porto had won that night, and the atmosphere was great. Fans singing and drinking together and swapping scarves. The students couldn't believe the friendly atmosphere between the opposing fans.
    Each time one of the girls went to the bar they'd come back with a few more men in tow - we ended up quite a large group.

    After several pints, they started bringing back Sambuccas as well, which we had to down in one. They certainly got me pished but they were in such a state before that happened that they didn't realise they'd achieved their objective.

    My capacity of alcohol became legendary. I never admitted how far gone I was as they were too drunk to notice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    I don't have a British accent, I speak pure Scouse.

    I speak/spoke Scouse when I moved here but realised that no-one can understand me, so the 'old BBC' accent comes out for them. Every time I talk: to my mum from Garston, I have to revert to the accent or she doesn't understand me at all


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    In New York (and in USA in general) the Americans ask me, or tell me I am English but when I meet fellow Brits they think I am Welsh!!!
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    Some dimwits in Formby can't even understand me , they keep saying ' sorry sorry' ! Whats all that about , My Irish friends have no problem understanding me , besides i sound hundred times worse if i try to put the talk on , i don't put me H's were ther is H-is none , i think i have a nice voice ...

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    What language were you using? My mother was a Formby girl, and when I used to come home from sea, as a young lad, she would
    berate me for sounding like a "Bootle Buck." Dad was a Bootle boy, but I guess she had become accustomed to his accent.

    The only English accent that may have any value over here, is the refined "Oxford" type, and that only when seeking a butlers job. It cut no ice in the Canadian Army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennylane View Post
    Some dimwits in Formby can't even understand me , they keep saying ' sorry sorry' ! Whats all that about , My Irish friends have no problem understanding me , besides i sound hundred times worse if i try to put the talk on , i don't put me H's were ther is H-is none , i think i have a nice voice ...
    So do I - or should I say, 'did I'? But I can't hear it any more... You've left us Pennyless.

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    My brother was on holiday in San Diego and two girls thought his accent was cute when they asked him if he could take their pic when at the SD Zoo. Someone else I used to speak to online moved to Oklahoma from Huyton and they were saying her accent was cute too so it seems Merseyside accents have some benefit in the US!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsette View Post
    What language were you using? My mother was a Formby girl, and when I used to come home from sea, as a young lad, she would
    berate me for sounding like a "Bootle Buck." Dad was a Bootle boy, but I guess she had become accustomed to his accent.

    The only English accent that may have any value over here, is the refined "Oxford" type, and that only when seeking a butlers job. It cut no ice in the Canadian Army.
    ha,ha, that's something my nan used to say if some one was 'common' - that they were a buck

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    Tony Hayward's British accent has not been any help at all.

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    I don't know how much of this is tongue-in-cheek but I can see a lot of it is.

    First the Americans love accents. Their favorite is French, they swoon over it (yuk) They love Argentine, and Spanish from Spain (I do too, just say Javier Bardem) British, Italian and a few more.

    I don't know anyone who thinks you are more intelligent with a Brit accent unless it is what we used to call BBC English. In fact, I think Jay Leno (was definitely a late night show) said last week that the Brits THINK Americans are impressed with their accents but only about 30 of them actually sound like Hugh Grant, you can't understand the rest of them, This is said quite often in different ways
    They do think it is 'cute' though as has been stated. I am told all the time they love my accent. They just don't think we sound more intelligent. In fact, a Liverpool friend of mine who is a VP of a well known British company came to an event with me and a few friends were saying later that his accent was cute, they were shocked when I said what he did, they did not think he sounded like VP material!!! Maybe in cities were people do not travel so much or they do not have as diverse a population as New York, people may think any British accent is good. They most certainly did years ago before millions of them did the European tour after uni or went to their parents country of birth every year for hols.

    I know the 'writing in italics' is in jest as in New York most good wedding, engagement, anniversary, Christening and events, the invitations and envelopes are mostly all done italics. There are companies who do it and many people do it from home to make extra money. I was shocked to find that even at many charity events your NAME TAGS are even done beautifully in italics!!!

    Here is an example. A friend of mine in Liverpool is in Afghanistan, his group were invited for a day out by an American Army company, I think it must have been at a hotel as there was a swimming pool and a MacDonald's. He told me 'The luvved us Roni, the luv are sense of humour, we cracked them up all day, the luvved are accents' Now, friends of mine from Liverpool (very strong Liverpool accents) have a son who although born in the UK came here at about age 10 so he is an American and is in the army. He was saying they entertained some Brits and he said, the Scousers were cracking jokes all day and the Americans were laughing their heads off as they could see how hard these guys were trying to entertain but they did NOT UNDERSTAND most of what they were saying!!!!! They did think they were nice though!!! BTW, It was not my Liverpool friend's group I should not think

    I don't get it. I see tons of Brits on forums either complaining the 'Yanks' are everywhere in Europe, spoiling it for them, Venice and Paris are just ruined as they are crawling with Yanks and others are saying the Yanks are stupid as they never leave their country!! Yikes, choose one fellers, can't be both It is 3000 miles from NYC to London and 3000 miles from NYC to Los Angeles and I know people who do both more than once or twice every year. I know a few people who have NOT been to Europe but have been 70,000 miles exploring their own country.

    So! There you have it. The Americans think we are nice if we are nice They do love our accents along with French...........etc............. They DO NOT think we sound clever or superior to them or like professors and TV announcers Unless of course we do I have friends who grew up in the UK very wealthy, went to the most expensive schools etc. and I have heard Americans saying 'They are SOOO British' That Stephen Frye accent does impress them, I love his voice myself. He came to a BAFTA screening and answered questions for over an hour and he was witty, clever and all off the cuff!!!

    Oh yes. Years ago, a British rocker was being interviewed on TV and he did have a very educated accent but he was ****ing me off by saying he grew up wealthy, not like most rockers and did go to a good uni (many British rockers did!! He was getting right up my nose! ) He was so arrogant. Then the presenter asked him where he was from and he said London. Presenter said "Great accent man but nothing beats John Lennon's'!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsette View Post
    Tony Hayward's British accent has not been any help at all.
    Good one, made me chuckle.
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    A raw Liverpool accent sounds like fast incomprehensible babble to an American - it does to me as well.

    I was in the US and a team of us, all Americans, were doing a presentation. Four of us stepping in and doing a specific pieces. I was the only Brit.

    They wanted me to open up because of my accent - it would grab them because it was different.

    One thing is clear. A Liverpudlian will not be discriminated in the US because of his accent, as long as they can understand it, while in the south of England the Liverpudlian will find it difficult to get on.

    In fact, a Liverpool friend of mine who is a VP of a well known British company came to an event with me and a few friends were saying later that his accent was cute, they were shocked when I said what he did, they did not think he sounded like VP material!!!
    The US has a set pattern of speaking, voice and presentation for executive jobs. You have to fit the mould. It is like they are cloned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    A raw Liverpool accent sounds like fast incomprehensible babble to an American - it does to me as well.

    I was in the US and a team of us, all Americans, were doing a presentation. Four of us stepping in and doing a specific pieces. I was the only Brit.

    They wanted me to open up because of my accent - it would grab them because it was different.

    One thing is clear. A Liverpudlian will not be discriminated in the US because of his accent, as long as they can understand it, while in the south of England the Liverpudlian will find it difficult to get on.



    The US has a set pattern of speaking, voice and presentation for executive jobs. You have to fit the mould. It is like they are cloned.

    Yikes WW I am going to agree with you This is unusual!!!

    Yes, nobody will be be discriminated against because of a Liverpool accent, even if the person says they grew up very poor. The Americans admire people who start from scratch! They like accents, except New Jersey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronijayne View Post
    Yikes WW I am going to agree with you This is unusual!!!
    This is good showing progress

    Yes, nobody will be be discriminated against because of a Liverpool accent, even if the person says they grew up very poor. The Americans admire people who start from scratch! They like accents, except New Jersey
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    Steve McManaman is one of the experts who does the between match discussions on TV. He is full of himself, BUT I like him. He also does the commentary on some of the games. Most of the commentators and between game experts are English and Scottish. Only one or two are Americans .
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