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    I don't have a British accent, I speak pure Scouse.
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    I find myself speaking more eloquently when speaking to our European friends whilst on the phone in my line of business simply because they can't understand a word I say in my normal scouse.
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    sorry Ged cant understand you

    I think we all put a phone voice on for work.

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    My mrs still says that she cant understand a word I say when I'am talking to another scouser! But to anyone else she has no probs.

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    Not a British accent but the Belfast accent can confond alot of people although I can use my professional voice where all the slang is dropped but in full force "Norn Iron" it confuses the hell out of alot of people

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    What did Ged say...?????

    The 'Norn Iron' accent takes some listening to but it's a great accent!! In a book I was reading recently..........'She spoke using more vowels than there are in the English language' Refering to a Belfast person. It does seem like that tho..hehehe.
    Think I still have me Scouse accent, I was a taxi driver here in Holland for a while. When speaking Dutch it was obvious to the punters that I was English, it was obvious to some of them that I was Scouse!!! I have 2 lads who were born here they're 23 and 18 now and speak both languages without any accent but there's a bit of Scouse in them.........'u gorra cob on or wot??' How else do u say 'gorra cob on'????...............'Are u in a bad mood'...??? far too posh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloggie View Post
    What did Ged say...?????

    The 'Norn Iron' accent takes some listening to but it's a great accent!! In a book I was reading recently..........'She spoke using more vowels than there are in the English language' Refering to a Belfast person. It does seem like that tho..hehehe.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7FY6vMFIyE

    watch that and think again ok ok it is heavily "put on" to the extreme in that video but god... I come from Belfast and it really annoys me in that vid!
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    its strange anytime i go to edinburgh, london or places in the south, i find myself speaking much slower so people can understand me, and i dont even have a full on scouse accent.

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    I speak slower to non-Scouse people.

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    Since coming to live down here I,ve put on my accent so that the locals know I,m" not from round here then" As soon as my present neighbour heard my accent he knew where I was from. When I was living and working in Liverpool I had a more controlled accent as I used the phone a lot and I think I was beginning to soften my accent by doing just that over the years. But I,m not ashamed to be a broad scouser.

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    I've toned my accent down over the years as coming from Croxteth, I didn't pause for a breath when speaking. Now, I've slowed down and try to pronounce my words, although some people still don't understand anything I say. When I speak to people on holiday I've been told that I sound like I'm from Scotland, Newcastle and even Birmingham. Once, in Amsterdam with my wife, we were on a canal cruise. We had been speaking to an English couple opposite us for over half a hour when the fella's wife asked my wife where about in Holland I was from! Another occasion in a bar in Amsterdam I was asked for directions to other brown bars in the area. I gave directions to the couple, they thanked me and asked where I was from. I told them I was from Liverpool and they said that I spoke good dutch. I told them that I didn't speak any dutch, to which they replied "but you've been ordering all your drinks in dutch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloggie View Post
    What did Ged say...?????

    The 'Norn Iron' accent takes some listening to but it's a great accent!! In a book I was reading recently..........'She spoke using more vowels than there are in the English language' Refering to a Belfast person.
    I personally can't stand the Northern Irish accent. I think it is the most grating sounding accent of any ever heard. No disrespect to any decent people over there, that is just my view.
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    I Have a very watered down Liverpool accent and pronounce the words correctly. One lady on the phone said I had the best voice she had ever heard on a telephone - I was shocked.

    Having a Liverpool accent in the south is a distinct disadvantage. If we were collectively black we would have legal case against some organisations. I met one girl who went for an interview and they said to her that she cannot have the job as many people would find her accent "offensive".

    In the USA, I get regarded as a "very" intelligent person, as I write with an italic pen and they are astounded. I also know more about the world and history than them. They are in awe at times - to the point I unintentionally intimidate some of them. One company would always run some projects past me, as I thought and looked from a different angle than them.

    In the south of England the only way to survive is out dress them. Have a clean crisp white shirt on every day. A dark blue immaculate suit and a Burberry raincoat. Immaculately polished black shoes. They then can't point at you. If you are scruffy you get nowhere. The doormen also call you Sir when dressed that way - just say little to nothing to them, as if they detect the accent the respect drops.

    Always be in first in the morning and one of the last to leave. Don't drink alcohol with them at all, as Liverpudlians are drunks aren't they. If you have to, only at company meals, and learn about wine and knowingly order the wine if you can. It helps if you learn French too. Don't willingly socialise with them as they really don't want to know you. Some will make an attempt to be friendly with you, but mainly out of a sense of duty more than anything else.

    Follow all that and you will survive. You may not be the first on the redundancy list then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I Have a very watered down Liverpool accent and pronounce the words correctly. One lady on the phone said I had the best voice she had ever heard on a telephone - I was shocked.

    Having a Liverpool accent in the south is a distinct disadvantage. If we were collectively black we would have legal case against some organisations. I met one girl who went for an interview and they said to her that she cannot have the job as many people would find her accent "offensive".

    In the USA, I get regarded as a "very" intelligent person, as I write with an italic pen and they are astounded. I also know more about the world and history than them. They are in awe at times - to the point I unintentionally intimidate some of them. One company would always run some projects past me, as I thought and looked from a different angle than them.

    In the south of England the only way to survive is out dress them. Have a clean crisp white shirt on every day. A dark blue immaculate suit and a Burberry raincoat. Immaculately polished black shoes. They then can't point at you. If you are scruffy you get nowhere. The doormen also call you Sir when dressed that way - just say little to nothing to them, as if they detect the accent the respect drops.

    Always be in first in the morning and one of the last to leave. Don't drink alcohol with them at all, as Liverpudlians are drunks aren't they. If you have to, only at company meals, and learn about wine and knowingly order the wine if you can. It helps if you learn French too. Don't willingly socialise with them as they really don't want to know you. Some will make an attempt to be friendly with you, but mainly out of a sense of duty more than anything else.

    Follow all that and you will survive. You may not be the first on the redundancy list then.
    You're not the sort of man one meets every day, John. I enjoyed reading that. Every so often one will actually marry you, but, yes, only out of a sense of duty. That's women for you though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
    You're not the sort of man one meets every day, John. I enjoyed reading that. Every so often one will actually marry you, but, yes, only out of a sense of duty. That's women for you though.

    Hello Squirrel and Waterways

    Waterways, I don't doubt that what you say is true, though it still pains me to hear that a Liverpool or northern accent may be viewed as a disadvantage in the job market place down south. Although I am sure that as you imply, you have to do whatever you have to do in these precarious times when one can so easily face the axe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
    You're not the sort of man one meets every day, John. I enjoyed reading that. Every so often one will actually marry you, but, yes, only out of a sense of duty. That's women for you though.
    I don't want them to marry me. They can earn their own living. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hello Squirrel and Waterways

    Waterways, I don't doubt that what you say is true, though it still pains me to hear that a Liverpool or northern accent may be viewed as a disadvantage in the job market place down south. Although I am sure that as you imply, you have to do whatever you have to do in these precarious times when one can so easily face the axe.
    Chris, I know some Liverpudlians who were highly qualified and couldn't get jobs, discrimination was so rife. They started a company themselves and quickly employed southerners on the phones and as the front men mainly because of their accents. They did very well. So, like the Jews and Asians before them, Liverpudlians benefited from discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doyler View Post
    riding me bike on si today saw a construction worker with everton tatooed on his back. i sang a stave from an old one. oh we ate bill shankly and we ate st john.....made up he was. him sean sweeney. me sean doyle. small world...
    Hello doyler

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    I always found my accent to be an advantage when I worked in London. All my clients knew it was me that they were talking to when I phoned them (worked in recruitment providing casual hospitality staff).
    On the occasions that I actually went out and worked on some of the jobs myself I always found that I wasn't the first scouser to grace their premises, whether it be places as different as Millwall Football Club or a City of London livery hall (well posh and very traditional).
    The usual thing was to joke through the boring initial comments "hope I've locked my car", etc. until getting to the point were people actually admitted that theyliked scousers.
    The moral of the story is......... don't change your accent, wherever your path leads, or you could turn into Ringo Starr (or Cilla Black if we need a female alternative).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gynsman View Post
    I always found my accent to be an advantage when I worked in London. All my clients knew it was me that they were talking to when I phoned them (worked in recruitment providing casual hospitality staff).
    Maybe being in that field. In other fields the accent is clearly not acceptable at all to them.

    I believe the accent is not discriminated against in the music and entertainment industry either. Try banking, consultancy, etc, fields were the money is big. Try working your way up the ranks in these companies even if they take you on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I Have a very watered down Liverpool accent and pronounce the words correctly. One lady on the phone said I had the best voice she had ever heard on a telephone - I was shocked.

    Having a Liverpool accent in the south is a distinct disadvantage. If we were collectively black we would have legal case against some organisations. I met one girl who went for an interview and they said to her that she cannot have the job as many people would find her accent "offensive".

    In the USA, I get regarded as a "very" intelligent person, as I write with an italic pen and they are astounded. I also know more about the world and history than them. They are in awe at times - to the point I unintentionally intimidate some of them. One company would always run some projects past me, as I thought and looked from a different angle than them.

    In the south of England the only way to survive is out dress them. Have a clean crisp white shirt on every day. A dark blue immaculate suit and a Burberry raincoat. Immaculately polished black shoes. They then can't point at you. If you are scruffy you get nowhere. The doormen also call you Sir when dressed that way - just say little to nothing to them, as if they detect the accent the respect drops.

    Always be in first in the morning and one of the last to leave. Don't drink alcohol with them at all, as Liverpudlians are drunks aren't they. If you have to, only at company meals, and learn about wine and knowingly order the wine if you can. It helps if you learn French too. Don't willingly socialise with them as they really don't want to know you. Some will make an attempt to be friendly with you, but mainly out of a sense of duty more than anything else.

    Follow all that and you will survive. You may not be the first on the redundancy list then.
    Superb - really can't decide just how far your tongue is in your cheek!

    Having worked in London for a few years, until two years ago, my accent was often picked up on in a very negative way. Took 40 of my students (a lot of them from overseas) to Liverpool - 3 day study visit. They loved it and their attitudes changed totally.

    When in the Merch I used to go to New Orleans a lot. Used to get asked if I was Australian, or even from Boston!

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    I went to a restaurant in down town San Francisco once and they asked if I was Australian. I said that I was from Liverpool and they said "Where is Liverpool" ?
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    I went to New York some years ago and was asked was I Irish, then Scottish, then Welsh, then Australian and finally New Zealander. I replied 'no from Liverpool'. I got a puzzled look - I just said 'it is in the north west of England...'
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Superb - really can't decide just how far your tongue is in your cheek!

    Having worked in London for a few years, until two years ago, my accent was often picked up on in a very negative way.
    You will know what I am on about then.

    Took 40 of my students (a lot of them from overseas) to Liverpool - 3 day study visit. They loved it and their attitudes changed totally.
    What did they study?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post



    What did they study?
    Tourism Planning.
    They had a very lucky escape - Mike Storey was due to speak to them but cancelled at the last minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I personally can't stand the Northern Irish accent. I think it is the most grating sounding accent of any ever heard. No disrespect to any decent people over there, that is just my view.
    Coming from Northern Ireland but living in the North of Ireland (there is a difference) there are many different accents, we dont all sound the same.

    People in other countries think or ask are we from Scotland?.

    To me the Northern Irish Accents is as different as all the Scottish Accents. I cannot see where or how people think we sound scottish.
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    Re: Students

    Not sure I haven't posted some of this before so apologies if I'm repeating myself.

    When briefing the students (about 6 different European nationalites and a couple from South America) I had to point out the differences between London and Liverpool.

    'Don't freak out if people speak to you on the street'.
    This would be an alien experience to them in London and they'd be very unlikely to respond.

    Within a day they got used to the idea and each time they came back to the hotel they'd tell me about interesting conversations they'd had with complete strangers. One girl from Slovakia had gone in a shop to buy a paper. By the time she left the person serving knew where she was from, what she was studying in London, and why she was in Liverpool.

    The feedback I got from my students was amazing and I've never been so proud of the people from my home town. Of all the positive experiences they had, the people made the most impact.

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