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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoobarb View Post
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    Brunswick tower would have been hideous and out of place. Nothing else round there like it. Plus it would have overlooked the naval base, would have thought that would be a big no no.
    The naval base is just an office. You are right, the car parks should be sold. Yes we need more quality housing around the waters with mixed leisure facilities, not working class tenements. The city is short of decent, attractive, spacious, quality accommodation in the city and docks.

    The Brunswick Quay Tower was world-class. It would have attracted investment around it. The company, a local company the Matlan people, had plans to extend the project with rumours of excavating all or parts of Toxteth Dock.
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    They shouldnt build any sky scrapers they all ready made a mess of the waterfront seen the kip of those buildings me 4 year old cousin could have designed them
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    What's the point if everywhere in the world begins to look like everywhere else? I really hope Liverpool does not get that homogenized look. The city deserves better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IllmaticScouser View Post
    They shouldnt build any sky scrapers they all ready made a mess of the waterfront seen the kip of those buildings me 4 year old cousin could have designed them
    If you want a bland cityscape then go to Nottingham. Beetham West is superb. The talls have made the waterfront - before them the waterfront was bland. The Brunswick Quay Tower would have been brilliant: The city needs height!!!! It needs high density, vibrant districts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IllmaticScouser View Post
    They shouldnt build any sky scrapers they all ready made a mess of the waterfront seen the kip of those buildings me 4 year old cousin could have designed them
    Agree. Its turning into a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    What's the point if everywhere in the world begins to look like everywhere else? I really hope Liverpool does not get that homogenized look. The city deserves better.

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    Im with you Chris. Sadly its already looking silly now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post


    If you want a bland cityscape then go to Nottingham. Beetham West is superb. The talls have made the waterfront - before them the waterfront was bland. The Brunswick Quay Tower would have been brilliant: The city needs height!!!! It needs high density, vibrant districts.



    What would New York be without the skyscrapers?
    That looks like somethin from Star Trek... how those architects are makin money i dont know look at the state of the new buildings on Liverpools waterfront i can imagine the blueprints to look like a little kids scribble they ruin the true architecture of the Liver Buildings, The Cunard Buildings and the likes

    The skyscrapers in New York are horrible there is far better architecture to look at in New York e.g. The Post office and the libarary
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    Well Said
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    I agree with Waterways. The more kick ass buildings the better ! Why shouldn't we have some height and stunning architecture !??.
    We deserve it, we deserve to be a fantastic looking city - because we ARE a fantastic city.
    I love what has already been done. I am proud to show off photos of our new look waterfront - to people who have been away from Liverpool for a long time .. I can't wait for them to see what we have now and how fantastic we look. I for one am made up

    Why would anyone not want this for our city ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post


    If you want a bland cityscape then go to Nottingham. Beetham West is superb. The talls have made the waterfront - before them the waterfront was bland. The Brunswick Quay Tower would have been brilliant: The city needs height!!!! It needs high density, vibrant districts.



    I like this very much.

    Also, we should have had the Cloud - but perhaps in a different location to the original plan (as has been suggested before).

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    I love heights so much so of course I want the skyscrapers!

    There are messes like the Echo building and Unity but thats what dynamite is for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post

    Why would anyone not want this for our city ?
    Because it looks shocking. Just coz somebody likes it dont mean we all do. I think it looks terrible.
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    I find it really exciting the way our waterfront is developing. It's fab and looks fantastic lit up at night. It's exciting to be down there seeing it close up. I hope all the exciting new stuff continues. Our youngsters are seeing a whole new era in our city emerging. I tell my son that the younger generation are seeing a new phase and future in Liverpool.

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    I dont like it. I go there and think " Urrrrrrrrgh " The 3 graces are being ruined by it all.

    I shall tell my son I am sorry for letting them turn our city in Lego Land. Its gone beyond a Joke now.

    What next? A Giant Wigwam?
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    The three graces will always be beautiful and stunning. I don't think anything will take the limelight away from them. They still shine out I'll still love them the best

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    I want the Wigwam now.
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    Fantastic. Re-clad the Sandcastle and what a collection!!!! Fantastic

    We need more height!!!!!
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    Ugly as sin that lot is.

    Forget our history and build glass everywhere? yeah great idea
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    The buildings here are all very different to each other including the church. Re-clad the Sandcastle and what a collection it will be. The Sandcastle has some wonderful shapes to it. It looks different from every angle you view it. Take away the highway (Dock Rd) and make it a narrow service road with wide pavements, put shops, cafes, etc, on the ground floor of the Atlantic Tower Hotel and the Sandcastle and this place will be very appealing.

    ...and the attractive King Edward's Tower is yet to be built here, which adds even more value.

    Draw life into the dock areas.




    The proposed superb King Edward Tower

    The new King Edward Tower, which has a wonderful unique shape and colouring will enhance the docks/waterfront even more.

    Still a lot of space to put unique and tall buildings.
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    I think it looks great !

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    Forget our history and build glass everywhere?
    Our history is one of innovation. Liverpool was made into a great city because it was unafraid to experiment, modernise and advance. The number of firsts in the city is phenomenal. The world's first

    • Steel framed glass curtain walled building
    • Air conditioned building
    • Passenger railway
    • Commercial enclosed dock
    • Electric elevated railway
    • Large scale ferro concrete building
    • Iron framed buildings (churches)
    • Interconnected enclosed dock system
    • First radio broadcasts
    • etc

    If there is no change the city declines.
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    Looks stupid. Have they no better ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post


    The buildings here are all very different to each other including the church. Re-clad the Sandcastle and what a collection it will be. The Sandcastle has some wonderful shapes to it. It looks different from every angle you view it. Take away the highway (Dock Rd) and make it a narrow service road with wide pavements, put shops, cafes, etc, on the ground floor of the Atlantic Tower Hotel and the Sandcastle and this place will be very appealing.

    ...and the attractive King Edward's Tower is yet to be built here, which even more value.

    Draw the life into the docks areas.




    The proposed superb King Edward Tower

    The new King Edward Tower, which has a wonderful unique shape and colouring will enhance the docks/waterfront even more.

    Still a lot of space to put unique and tall buildings.
    Needs a better design, looks like a pc tower!
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    LA Skyline, would any of these suit Liverpool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post


    LA Skyline, would any of these suit Liverpool?
    I a can think of a few.


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    I have just arrived back from a day visit to London, in an office overlooking the 'Gurkin'. That has a love/hate reaction, but at least it is instantly recognisable. I'm all for innovation, but it has to be unique and not just another skyscapper that when looked at in isolation could be from any city in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gardens View Post
    I have just arrived back from a day visit to London, in an office overlooking the 'Gurkin'. That has a love/hate reaction, but at least it is instantly recognisable. I'm all for innovation, but it has to be unique and not just another skyscapper that when looked at in isolation could be from any city in the world.
    The waterfront pretty well has that except for Beetham 1. We could have had the Brunswick Quay Tower, which again is distinctive. The new King Edward Tower is again distinctive. The Gurkin is superb. A highly distinctive superb looking building.


    The Gherkin

    We need something like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gardens View Post
    I have just arrived back from a day visit to London, in an office overlooking the 'Gurkin'. That has a love/hate reaction, but at least it is instantly recognisable. I'm all for innovation, but it has to be unique and not just another skyscapper that when looked at in isolation could be from any city in the world.
    That's why we should have had the Cloud.

    I'm pretty much pleased with what we have got and what we will be getting. The Cloud would have been good. I'm still not quite in love with the new museum building. It's the shape I'm not keen on. I said a long time ago when we were first discussing it that it looks more like a multi cinema complex to me. But I wouldn't dismiss it and do try to be optimistic. I always look for the best things about it and try to see it's attributes.

    I just love all the high glass buildings though.

    I love modernism as much as I love old.

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    I hate glass, its ugly.
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