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    The Los Angeles skyscrapers in general are bland, but one of the original ones, the multi-cylinder Bonaventure hotel is quite different -

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    Can't believe the comments made by our socialist champion in post 10. Perhaps a wall should be built around the city centre to keep the riff-raff out?
    They could have passports to allow them in for the menial jobs, or to put money in the shops' tills, but have to be out again by nightfall.
    The council would be allowed to go out and raid the suburbs to collect taxes, a la Sherrif of Nottingham.
    I think I'm onto something here.

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    Kevin, would u be allowed back in ?

    I know I wouldn't coz me accent ain't strong enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Can't believe the comments made by our socialist champion in post 10.
    You are a confused person. I am anti-Tory. Your conditioning can't figure that out.

    Perhaps a wall should be built around the city centre to keep the riff-raff out?
    Interesting.

    They could have passports to allow them in for the menial jobs, or to put money in the shops' tills, but have to be out again by nightfall.
    The council would be allowed to go out and raid the suburbs to collect taxes, a la Sherrif of Nottingham.
    I think I'm onto something here.
    You are.

    Liverpool to succeed needs to attract the middle classes back into the city centre and the surrounding inner-city - where they used to be. A largely one class city is not going to succeed. Sit around the cafes of Turin, an industrial city, and then Liverpool. There is a massive contrast.

    You do not attact the middle class with tiny jerry-built studio flats. You do it be creating a water based city using the legacy of the docks, building spacious apartments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atmosferik View Post
    The council planners of Liverpool and Merseyside have got it right so far as far as I'm concerned.
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    They have only half a clue. Little direction. Click on the link in my sig. Look at the site. Look at the rejection of the world-class Brunswick Quay Tower, which would have been built before the Crash of 2008.

    As a photographer I have been asked to undertake many photography assignments, taking images of Liverpool and Merseyside from across the water.


    That is the problem. The city is designed to look well from Birkenhead. Look at the ministers rejection of the Brusnwick Quay Tower. They thought it may block the view of the cathedral from Rock Ferry. Ridiculous indeed. In Liverpool they not care about Rock Ferry. And the view from Liverrpool to the Wirral is appalling. I don't see them spending to improve our view.

    I was always a great advocate of the 'Fourth Grace' - the brain like building that never happened. This building would have given our skyline a major identity and a good one at that... Individual to us and something that would have given our skyline an almost 'World class' perspective to the world. As far as I'm concerned it was an opportunity missed.


    I agree. As long as all at street level it is at a human and attractive scale. Miami looks magnificent at night and when on the plane coming in at night the view is amazing. At street level, it is appalling.

    I want a human scale Amsterdam around the Dock waters. OK some high rises strategically placed. No abominations like the Arena shed nonsence any more. No multi-floor cars parks should be anywhere near the dock quays.
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    Smurphy - under those conditions I wouldn't want to be allowed back in.

    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    Kevin, would u be allowed back in ?

    I know I wouldn't coz me accent ain't strong enough

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    We need the car parks, like them or not, because so many people access the area by car.
    Perhaps we should have a Metro system, then we wouldn't need the car parks?l
    ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    We need the car parks, like them or not, because so many people access the area by car.
    Perhaps we should have a Metro system, then we wouldn't need the car parks?l
    ;-)
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    Confused of Coseley.
    Then we could get a senior member of the council to sell them for us so they could build more middle class housing.

    Brunswick tower would have been hideous and out of place. Nothing else round there like it. Plus it would have overlooked the naval base, would have thought that would be a big no no.
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    No more Tower Blocks. BOO TO THEM.

    I would knock Lego Land down and start again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post

    Many out of town estates are like because of the inhabitants. Money should not be squandered on these places over real progress in the centre. The city still needs to attract a larger middle class to push it forward.
    That is bad, very bad.

    Sod the poorer people and get the snobs in the city. You sure you aint no Tory?

    Shameful Comments. You should try going onto some of these estates. You may be shocked to find many down to earth, salt of the earth people, cracking people, Scousers. Unlike some of the rip off snobs you want in our city.

    I am disgusted by your remarks.
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    For a major city, we don't get this city treated like one! The Mersey for all it's history lacks enough activity on the river as one example. The Wirral has two ferry ports while we only have one and most of the time, theres hardly any ferries active on the river Mersey! Like most world cities, we don't have a bridge going across to the Wirral end too yet Runcorn and Widnes have one and are getting another one on their end!

    I agree with Waterways on the Wirral end, not much to look

    Most major modern cities have had skyscrapers for years and we only had two at most if you count the Anglican since it stands out in the skyline before 2003! Seems like London is only sky scraper like place in the UK with lots of them too! I dunno, I just love heights so I want some more! Not LA type ones though, LA is a hole! More something like the Canadian or Australian cities.

    You think the city would of been kept nice since we get the Beatle's stuff bringing in loads of tourists!

    Money does need to be thrown into the estates and inner/outer city areas but not recklessly. He is right about estates going horrible because of some inhabitants, I don't think he's insulting people who live in estates, it's obviously that people who live in them(not all) have recked them. Students around here because Landlords who aren't restricted to who they rent to give them to naive childish students who usually mess up the place when drunk and because they go recklessly wild because they finally live away from their parents!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    We need the car parks, like them or not, because so many people access the area by car.
    Perhaps we should have a Metro system, then we wouldn't need the car parks?l
    ;-)
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    Confused of Coseley.
    A more improved metro or train system would be godly, Merseytravels trains are terrible and are more concerned with upping the prices than improving efficientcy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    We need the car parks, like them or not, because so many people access the area by car.
    Perhaps we should have a Metro system, then we wouldn't need the car parks?l
    ;-)
    Yours faithfully,
    Confused of Coseley.
    There is no need for car parks on quays or in the docks estate at all. It is a waste of land around the waters. The Merseyrail Metro can access the docks as per the London Docklands Light-Railway. The DLR is mainly elevated like the Overhead Railway. We should copy London and recreate our history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    A more improved metro or train system would be godly, Merseytravels trains are terrible and are more concerned with upping the prices than improving efficientcy.
    Look at:
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    The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
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    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
    longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    That is bad, very bad.

    Sod the poorer people and get the snobs in the city. You sure you aint no Tory?
    100% anti-Tory. When people wreck their own environment we should not pour money into a bottomless pit, as they continually keep doing it. We need to put money into real progress and economic growth projects. That eventually will benefit those innocent people on the estates. They may eventually get the money to leave with improved economic growth, then the vandalized estates will need demolishing and re-built in part or whole.

    The Lodge Lane area is a bottomless pit for public funds. A new underground Merseyrail station would do wonders for the area attracting economic growth. The same if the mothballed Outer Loop is on Merseyrail serving some outer suburbs with poor images.
    The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
    Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click

    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
    longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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