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    Good post NL and food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Good post NL and food for thought.
    Lindy, keep all the old for sure and extend on it, the city is still a commercial city and needs offices and accommodation to suit.

    There is nothing wrong having a quality cluster of tall buildings on the north and south end waterfronts. No more Arenas on the quays that are bland, out of character and even have cars parks on the quays as well. The Albert Dock model clearly needs emulating on most quays as it works and will bring people to the docks waters with amenities to suit. The great thing about height is that it increases population density quite quickly. The odd very tall buildings among a collection of low-rises in the quays would be nice.
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    The Odd tall build.....ODD being the word. They look silly next to our fantastic buildings. And as Gregs dad pointed out the one we have is not even nearly full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    The Odd tall build.....ODD being the word. They look silly next to our fantastic buildings. And as Gregs dad pointed out the one we have is not even nearly full.
    It will be full, once the Credit Crunch has gone. The city is short of homes, especially quality homes, which you have been informed of but chose to ignore. Or we could have scruffy waste ground with cars parked on it. I prefer a smart modern building.

    The odder the tall building the better.

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    The city is building homes, or do you choose to ignore that? look along Kensington homes are springing up. other areas are starting the process.

    What family would want to live in a tower block in the city???? where do the kids play. Then again who could aford one? not many of Liverpool's working people.

    Though the biggest point is that they are pig ugly.
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    Why waste ground? We could build other things. Not only towers can be built on waste ground.
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    Well, before refurbishment the waterfront was mostly dismal waste ground - I know because I used to take my dogs there for a run !! We went there because it was deserted and the dogs could run loose without meeting anyone else with dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post


    Lindy, keep all the old for sure and extend on it, the city is still a commercial city and needs offices and accommodation to suit.

    There is nothing wrong having a quality cluster of tall buildings on the north and south end waterfronts. No more Arenas on the quays that are bland, out of character and even have cars parks on the quays as well. The Albert Dock model clearly needs emulating on most quays as it works and will bring people to the docks waters with amenities to suit. The great thing about height is that it increases population density quite quickly. The odd very tall buildings among a collection of low-rises in the quays would be nice.
    Although I do understand what NL and others are saying, (and I love our heritage buildings as much as anyone), I do agree that a cluster of stunning buildings to the south and the north of the Pierhead will look fab when completed.

    The buildings should not be boring 'any town' rectangles, but they should be unusual, eyecatching and stunning shapes.

    .. and not only is the view good from the river - I go along Everton rd frequently and the view from the hill is more interesting with the new buildings rising up in the distance.

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    I go along Prescot Road and get a view of that horrible tower with that stupid box thingy at the top...Uuuuurgh it ruins the skyline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    I go along Prescot Road and get a view of that horrible tower with that stupid box thingy at the top...Uuuuurgh it ruins the skyline.
    ha,ha, it looks a bit like a periscope from a distance

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    Nothing can look as bad as Manchester's Beetham Tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Nothing can look as bad as Manchester's Beetham Tower.
    Hahah, that is bad I agree. Beetham West craps on Manchester's one!
    Gididi Gididi Goo.

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    Big cities in Japan are full of skyscrapers but they manage to keep alot of cultural buildings mixed with them too and those wonderfull Cherry Blossoms along the rivers and parks too! In Osaka, they have a Castle and park right next to the Skycrapers!



    I am fan of this Osaka skycraper called "Umaeda Sky Building" because it's two joined together and theres an open escalator inbetween high up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    The city is building homes, or do you choose to ignore that? look along Kensington homes are springing up. other areas are starting the process.

    What family would want to live in a tower block in the city????

    They are not meant for children. They are for outsiders, and progressive locals, of which you are are not one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Why waste ground? We could build other things. .
    Like shed supermarkets? Fantastic .Just what we all need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Like shed supermarkets? Fantastic .Just what we all need.
    Only you said build Supermarkets, Nobody else.. Must be because you can not give a real arguement for a tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    They are not meant for children. They are for outsiders, and progressive locals, of which you are are not one.
    I am progressive. I dont need silly towers to progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    The city is short of homes, especially quality homes,
    So only Towers offer Quality homes?

    Homes-stirs the mind into families. Only you dont want them in the towers.

    You are sounding more stupid by the minute.

    Go live in a Tower in Watford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    So only Towers offer Quality homes?
    They maximize the investment and produce quality accommodation - with a view.

    Go live in a Tower in Watford.
    You have a thing about Watford. You need therapy.
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    The view from my desk in Chicago. Fantastically high. It was very animated at street level as the density was high. A real buzz! Great views.
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    No one answered my question YET..."What about the emergency factor???" Does happen you know... a fire, earth quake.., or even someone having a heart attack...(God forbid)....etc Well, like I said.. been in one with an emergency before.. Never again...Not to live anyway... Much rather have a yard and earth beneath my toes... But that is my opinion...


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    I suppose... Each to their own taste ,is the way this thread is going.. And, by right, I think that is what makes the World go round.. different opinions on where one would like to live.. or work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    They maximize the investment and produce quality accommodation - with a view.



    You have a thing about Watford. You need therapy.
    A view of another tower window for some sides. They still dont sort out the problem of homes for Liverpool families, you know those people you care nothing for. The people you think are scum.

    The towers are ugly as sin, get over it. Stick some photos on your wall of big towers and knock yourself out.

    You live in Watford, I know...Not Chicago.
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    Hi NL

    They can not answer it as it will always be a danger. It is hard enough getting out of a 4 story building never mind one 20 or 30 stories high.
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    I would hate to live at the top and realise I needed a pint of milk. It would seem such a mission to get the lift all the way down.
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    NL, the safety angle is of course an issue to worry about.

    When I say I like unusual shaped buildings - I wasn't necessarily thinking of dwellings. There could be a mixture of a few apartments, offices, retail establishments, a few restaurants, some doctors, dentists, beauty salons - and some cosmetic surgeons for the afluent yuppies, Ha! whatever. Mainly offices I suppose. I think we have enough apartments now.

    I don't think these type of apartments are aimed at average families with kids.



    What's the problem with Liverpool having a bit of glamour ?? why shouldn't we have it ?? The waterfront is looking fantastic.

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    Nowt wrong with Glamour LL.

    are strange shaped towers or high rise towers glamour though? Why not something else.

    God forbid we turn into Benidorm.
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    hee, hee, Benidorm looks horrible ! although I havn't been there - but it does look grotesgue from what I've seen of it.
    It's holiday place though.
    We wouldn't want anything as cluttered as that. I do agree with NL aswell about not actually being able to see the sky for skyscrapers. I would never want it to that extent !

    Just a few smart and lovely buildings is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    They still dont sort out the problem of homes for Liverpool families,
    Homes are homes - we need them, especially quality homes. The market decides the price.

    You live in Watford, I know...Not Chicago.
    I do? fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    They still dont sort out the problem of homes for Liverpool families,
    Homes are homes - we need them, especially quality homes. The market decides the price.

    You live in Watford, I know...Not Chicago.
    I do? fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naked lilac View Post
    No one answered my question YET..."What about the emergency factor???" Does happen you know... a fire, earth quake.., or even someone having a heart attack...(God forbid)....etc Well, like I said.. been in one with an emergency before.. Never again...Not to live anyway... Much rather have a yard and earth beneath my toes... But that is my opinion...

    ...Density factor is right! Ya can't even see sky looking up...from down below in that photo......Maybe, just a line of sky????? Oh my.... Too dense for me..

    I suppose... Each to their own taste ,is the way this thread is going.. And, by right, I think that is what makes the World go round.. different opinions on where one would like to live.. or work..
    The view was excellent. Sear Towers and all. Just look up and to the sides. The other windows had some of the 100 year old early skycrapers in view. They were building another building below which was nice to look at.

    Safety? They design that in now. Fireproof materials, no naked flames inside like gas burners, etc.
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