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    Quote Originally Posted by joge View Post
    Hi Phil,

    Impressive research!!!

    Maybe you can shed some light on this, though I'm not sure this is the right thread to broach it.



    When I was growing up in L,pool my family often referred to Carey St., in various ways, as a euphemism for extreme poverty. I assumed it was a widely held saying, but, Googling it, and down South here, no-one else seems to have heard it used that way. Is it a L,pool thing, or was it just confined to my family — a tradition founded in my Granny's early experiences having lived for some time in Carey St.?
    What they would have meant was that Carey Street was an area of "court dwellings". They're clearly shown on the large-scale map you've provided. In fact 'Court number 4' is named.
    Most were jerry-built and became slums and, eventually, they were all replaced.
    Carey Street, as you know, went quite early.
    Do a Google for "Court Dwellings", if the expression is new to you.

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    Hi Phil,

    As you seem to be the "Map Man", do you want a copy my map?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joge View Post
    Hi Phil,

    As you seem to be the "Map Man", do you want a copy my map?
    Yes please, Joge.
    Do you need my email address?
    pm me if so.

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    Hi Phil,

    Do you need my email address?
    pm me if so.


    ?? pm me ??

    Mail me on:— jogebgood@googlemail.com

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by joge View Post
    Hi Phil,

    Do you need my email address?
    pm me if so.


    ?? pm me ??
    Mail me on:— jogebgood@googlemail.com

    Cheers

    Private Message in this forum.
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    I'm mailing you separately, anyway.

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    Gotcha!

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    I have the same Burrows map too! How strange.

    As an estimate, it could well date from the 1930's as Speke is shown as under-construction as are a few other out-lying districts. To be honest, I havent looked at it for a while; would be great tracking down where Ainsough went if the index wasn't so difficult to understand!
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    When I was growing up in L,pool my family often referred to Carey St., in various ways, as a euphemism for extreme poverty. I assumed it was a widely held saying, but, Googling it, and down South here, no-one else seems to have heard it used that way. Is it a L,pool thing, or was it just confined to my family — a tradition founded in my Granny's early experiences having lived for some time in Carey St.?
    To answer my own query, after some more research,— "Carey Street" was a recognised euphemism for bankruptcy, and poverty, not often used these days seemingly. It derives from the establishment of the main Bankruptcy Court in Carey Street in London sometime in the mid 1800's. "Carey Street" also became known colloquially known as "***** Street" which was used in the same way.

    I guess it's just a coincidence that Carey Street happened to be in one of the poorest areas in Liverpool. Obviously my Granny and her family knew what they were talking about!

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    Default "***** Street"

    Why is "***** Street" reproduced with a set of asterisks? It's a perfectly acceptable use of the phrase and surely cannot be interpreted as offensive. Isn't this just a ***** example of PC sensibilities gone mad?
    Last edited by joge; 06-21-2007 at 12:42 PM.

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    As I can't see the 'banned' word, I'll guess you printed...q.u.e.e.r. street? Am I right.
    I've heard this phrase in relation to being in financial trouble, but I haven't heard of the phrase 'Carey street'

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    Yes! You're right Marky. Well interpreted.

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    Sorry ive been absent a while- Phredd kindly sent me the street atlas, and ive been meaning to scan it and post it on here- and i consistently forget!! I will try and get it done in the near future, it will be of interest to many.

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    I have a map of the dock estate and River Mersey dated 1946. It lists all the docks, including Garsten and all the depths in the river channels and anchorages. It is printed on very heavy linen type material and is bound in a black hard cover.
    Help find Madeleine

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    The derelict garage at the top-end of Kitchen Street has been demolished and the site is being cleared.

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    Default BARTHOLOMEWS POCKET ATLAS AND GUIDE 1928

    heres a page of the 1928 guide.

    Shows the railways and tram routes nicely

    I'll scan more if anyone interested

    Enjoy!

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