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    Don't think the March was a Sex Festival, but if such a Festival does make it and it for Heteros, I will be first in the Que


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    I was always surprized at the religious rejection of people who are gay.

    Surely in the eyes of god all people are his creation, in his own image? A little bit of hypocracy there perhaps?

    I wonder whether the church provided a float for all those gay priests hiding out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid_Amigo View Post
    Don't think the March was a Sex Festival, but if such a Festival does make it and it for Heteros, I will be first in the Que
    Bring back the Roman Bacchus festival: wine, women, song...
    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."... ... ... Mark Twain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    I was always surprized at the religious rejection of people who are gay.

    Surely in the eyes of god all people are his creation, in his own image? A little bit of hypocracy there perhaps?

    I wonder whether the church provided a float for all those gay priests hiding out there?
    I do not have time for any sad narrow minded person who says its wrong to be Gay because 'The Bible says so'. The same people who will then have sex outside Marriage, Master Bate and eat shell fish. Plus showing no compassion to sinners, which Jesus said is a must (Cast the First Stone).

    I always say to these braindead cretins will burn in hell before any homosexual .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid_Amigo View Post
    The same people who will then have sex outside Marriage, Master Bate and eat shell fish.
    Nothing wrong with any of the above, except getting married. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
    Nothing wrong with any of the above, except getting married. .
    I remember when my Mother caught me doing one of the above i dived under the covers, cringed with embarrasment, i will never live it down.

    Being caught eating Shell Fish is such a downer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid_Amigo View Post
    Being caught eating Shell Fish is such a downer.
    Ha, I'd sooner she found my stash of gentleman's special interest literature.
    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."... ... ... Mark Twain.

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    I'm not getting into a discussion about Gay pride. I'm too tired after 2 days festivities for serious debate !

    - - just posting this Youtube I found of the motorised trolly grannies
    these were the same ones that were at the Gay Pride festival - seems they were at the Pier Head too as well as Dale st. They were very entertaining

    This is just a snippet of their act -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-1s6bJP0Mg

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    I can see the different arguments for,and against, specific groups celebrating things like their sexuality,but dont forget,they might also have different views!


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    The Gay people I know think like Mr Blackwood. Even a very camp gay man I work with, lovely fella despite being a pervy s0d, like the majority men, hetereos including myself , told me to behave when I asked him did he go to the Pride. His words where 'why would I go down there just to watch men in dresses'??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid_Amigo View Post
    The Gay people I know think like Mr Blackwood. Even a very camp gay man I work with, lovely fella despite being a pervy s0d, like the majority men, hetereos including myself , told me to behave when I asked him did he go to the Pride. His words where 'why would I go down there just to watch men in dresses'??
    That's what I mean,they're as different as anyone else! I always remember drinking in the "Bighouse"(in the early 70's) wondering why so many "Straight" guy's were in a pub, with such camp barmen.........then the penny dropped!

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    Ive no problem with homosexuals, Ive worked with a few gays, Ive also been in the company of people who have made no secret they are gay, i have found them very pleasant and ready for laugh and enjoyed there company . i would feel uncomfortable with anyone who dresses so blatantly camp. OK i realize its a carnival but if i was gay i would be concerned any more carnivals don't start getting over the top, if Liverpool's Gay pride started to look anything like San Francisco's parades i would feel very uncomfortable.

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    Well, it was just a great day.

    (I've read lots of positive comments on other web-sites since, and not read one negative comment from anyone who attended).

    It was a great day - great atmosphere, great entertainment - simple as that.

    To anyone saying 'why would I want to go and watch men in dresses' - - well why wouldn't you ?? why wouldn't you want to have a great time with everyone else regardless of who or what you are. Who wouldn't want see the singers, comedy acts and listen to good music ? Why wouldn't you want to see lots bright colours to cheer you up on a sunny afternoon, and have loads of good laughs with the banter and comedy characters.

    Stay at home and be miserable then I say !


    There was every age from young kids to pensioners. Everyone was having a lovely afternoon. I'm just sorry we couldn't have stayed until the end - we didn't want to miss anything!

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    If the aim of the carnival was for everyone just to have a nice fun day then i am sure it was a success,if the aim of the carnival was to help gays to be more open and for non gays to accept them without prejudice i am not so sure,i can only speak for myself,theres a difference between being gay and dressing up in drag and it will always make me feel uncomfortable,sorry IMO does more harm than good

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    I missed it - what a drag!

    Lindy, you seem to have taken rather a lot of photos of back passages.


    Joking aside - I'm in favour and support the parade.

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    ha,ha, here's some men in dresses -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgFESZrO5k

    I was just looking for Dickie Henderson for the other thread.

    Men have always dressed up as women - still do ! How many times do you see daft fellahs dressed up at stag do's - - it seems guys will don a dress at the drop of a hat !

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    Caw canny th' noo, ma Lanky pals
    tak care at what ye tilt
    mony the mon
    may ready don
    a dress just like the gals
    let no-one stray to make mention o' the ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Caw canny th' noo, ma Lanky pals
    tak care at what ye tilt
    mony the mon
    may ready don
    a dress just like the gals
    let no-one stray to make mention o' the ....
    Yer wha'!

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    Check this one out at 1.12min
    " If you know your history, then you would know where you coming from".


    "I could have been a footballer - but I had a paper round"..Yosser Hughes

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    Ha,ha, that's fantastic,John! Bet they'll think twice next time,the jerks!

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    Ha,ha, I'm made up they got what was coming to them !
    pity those drag guys didn't chase those morons to hell along the street - - they woulda' looked like right wuss's being chased off by someone in a skirt and stilettos !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Ha,ha, I'm made up they got was coming to them !
    pity those drag guys didn't chase those morons to hell along the street - - they woulda' looked like right wuss's being chased off by someone in a skirt and stilettos !
    Imagine what they were saying to the coppers......"We've just been decked by some men with dresses on"!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennylane View Post
    I don't expect that all gay men do camp it up and dress in women's clothing ! It's a celebration of Gayness , and freedom of expression for many .
    I suspect that more 'straight men' do that sort of thing in the confines of their bedroom .
    Spot on, Debra, with BOTH your posts... It shouldn't have been necessary for you to have to point this out, but it seems it was... and you did it so well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennylane View Post
    I don't expect that all gay men do camp it up and dress in women's clothing ! It's a celebration of Gayness , and freedom of expression for many .
    I suspect that more 'straight men' do that sort of thing in the confines of their bedroom .
    Sorry for late response, not realised this post before and not been on a few days but thought I had to reply to this.

    I am very aware probably more Straight men are into dressing up a women, Eddie Izzard being a prime example, but do they have a March to show they are proud to be Straight?

    Maybe a March could be arranged so they can be proud of their desires.

    As I already stated, I have no objections to a March, I have no objections to this March which features stereotypical gay performers and revellers, if thats what people want to see and the partakers happy to provide, then in terms of entertainment, it is a success. If they are proud to be Gay, then fair enough. I agree they should not be ashamed and be allowed to be themselves, but is it sending a positive message that Gay people are just like any other person? I can't say it does as it only concentrates on the Stereotypes. Not saying anything is wrong with being extremely Camp tranny, just what about gays like Ian McKellen or John Barrowman? People accept them as actors and performers and know very well they are Gay, its not important.

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    Ive no idea how many men dress up in womans clothes ,i know i don't like the implication that a lot of men who have felt the march was sending the wrong message are doing the same thing themselves behind closed doors.
    its up to the people who march in these parades,if they want a fun day out,fine,i have absolutely no problem with anyone being homosexual,Ive also no problem with any man dressing up in public as a woman for a laugh, i do have a problem with any man straight or homosexual walking the streets dressed as a woman for a thrill, that makes me uncomfortable and i would walk away from any person who joined my company who i knew dressed as a woman for kicks.
    i am sure a lot of the gays on the march were just having a laugh and not dressing up for kicks but it does send the wrong message,

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    I'm losing the thread now !


    I think people are looking too much into it


    Some of the things mentioned wouldn't have entered my head.

    It was just a great event. Hope it continues to be as good next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    I'm losing the thread now !


    I think people are looking too much into it


    Some of the things mentioned wouldn't have entered my head.

    It was just a great event. Hope it continues to be as good next time.
    I understand what you mean lindylou,i agree the day was all about having a good time, Ive still got no problem with that, but the parade drew a lot of publicity and was for a serious cause.Gay Pride. if the parades aim was also for the public to accept them for what they are,just decent normal people who just want to live life they way they want without prejudice then just consider what you wear on future parades and dont go to far.
    i hope they look at my views as feedback rather than objections to the parade.

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    I was part of the parade. I wasn't dressed as a woman and I'm not camp but I don't have a problem with women who dress as men or men who dress as women and no one else seemed to either apart from a handful of 'Christians' at the beginning. If people feel uncomfortable seeing other people in drag then maybe they might need to ask themselves what that's really about. Parades are always about dressing up so expect more of the same next year (and then some). If it's not for you or you have a problem with people being gay, trans, bi, etc, fair enough. Deal with it. One way of dealing with it is avoiding the parade. I don't think it's compulsory and the centre of Liverpool is more than big enough for everyone to enjoy themselves without seeking to spoil it for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big where it matters View Post
    I was part of the parade. I wasn't dressed as a woman and I'm not camp but I don't have a problem with women who dress as men or men who dress as women and no one else seemed to either apart from a handful of 'Christians' at the beginning. If people feel uncomfortable seeing other people in drag then maybe they might need to ask themselves what that's really about. Parades are always about dressing up so expect more of the same next year (and then some). If it's not for you or you have a problem with people being gay, trans, bi, etc, fair enough. Deal with it. One way of dealing with it is avoiding the parade. I don't think it's compulsory and the centre of Liverpool is more than big enough for everyone to enjoy themselves without seeking to spoil it for others.
    Well said. Wallet?

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