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    Can't confirm that the first Vines was built in 1867, but it was demolished and replaced in 1907.
    Old postcards show the previous building.
    The postcard George provided shows that the building to the left (75) had the same sort of decorated windows.
    (Don't understand why that postcard is watermarked!)
    An alleyway seems unlikely on such a busy road.


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    I'mnot saying it was an allyway more of a courtyard to the back of two premeis? some buidings had extensions over shops and in victorian times these extensions were numbered ie lets say it was #75 the extenion above the premisess would therefore be # 75a if it belonged to #75 street level.

    I shall seek and I shall find. there was definatly wrought iron gates before the doors were there in the pic steve posted I'llwager a bet on it.

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    It was part of a pub called the Pavilion.
    It's shown on the 1890 map, and occupied all the site between the Scala and The Vines.

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    No such lluck on finding it from the 70's face on.

    Only this and its just out of range in the pic....

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    is this image courtesy of Liverpool Records Office George?

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    I would think it was...but there yer go deleted.

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    I suppose it might have been an idea to ask for some info' in the pub,itself,and maybe even get some pic's!? I'm more curious than ever now,and wonder if it is, anything to do with the pub',especially as Quentin said there was a light left on? Thanks to all!

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    Well whatever the mystery about the wall and the frontage you bet yer life it occured between the war years and when the new frontage got added because the last photo I posted and deleted showed extensive
    bomb damage right next door up to the picture house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Well whatever the mystery about the wall and the frontage you bet yer life it occured between the war years and when the new frontage got added because the last photo I posted and deleted showed extensive
    bomb damage right next door up to the picture house.
    Sorry George,it was gone before I saw it,pity!

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    Though not really the same situation as next door,there are some similarities with the old "Futurist" cinema which shows signs of "movement" of it's frontage,as evidenced by the hoarding that extends to the building on the left of the pic',so it looks like it incorporated a shop of some sort?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Though not really the same situation as next door,there are some similarities with the old "Futurist" cinema which shows signs of "movement" of it's frontage,as evidenced by the hoarding that extends to the building on the left of the pic',so it looks like it incorporated a shop of some sort?!
    Might not there have been shops either side of the entrance on street level, one of which incorporated the spce next door? The entrance being no more than a broad stairway leading to a foyer on the first floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Might not there have been shops either side of the entrance on street level, one of which incorporated the spce next door? The entrance being no more than a broad stairway leading to a foyer on the first floor?
    True,but the hoarding continues to the next building,on the left. Just an example of "movement" as it were!

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    The building on the right looks like it has over-indulged.

    [Zap, or someone posted a nice holloween pic of pumpkins in much the same state a while back]

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