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    My copy of the LMR Central Lines WTT Section E4 for September 1958 to June 1959 shows a fish train departing Preston N.U. at 1.0am (MX) arriving at Liverpool Exchange at 1.45am. If that train originated at Preston, where was the fish landed - the WTT (Section D25) confirms that it didn't start from Fleetwood. The WTT shows no return path for the stock so does anyone know how/when the empty stock would have worked back to its place of origin?


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    Any details of the stock making up this train would also be appreciated.

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    Ah!

    That piece of Cod that passes all understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Ah!

    That piece of Cod that passes all understanding.
    LMR= London Midland Region, WTT= Working Time Table MX= Monday Excepted (ie no train that day)
    I have 1960 WTT & it shows a train to Fleetwood at 5pm could the stock been attached to that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merseywail View Post
    LMR= London Midland Region, WTT= Working Time Table MX= Monday Excepted (ie no train that day)
    I have 1960 WTT & it shows a train to Fleetwood at 5pm could the stock been attached to that ?
    Thanks for that Mw. I did not wish to appear too acronymoneous.

    It struck me through the night that these trucks might have gone to Liverpool to pick-up fish and may have been assigned to different engines to distribute same?
    IMHO (in my honest opinion?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    Ah!

    That piece of Cod that passes all understanding.

    I wondered if it was a genuine question.
    Or a load of codswallop.

    Sorry.

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    Well thanks for the comments - I'd hoped for some relevant information but all I seem to have done is exercise the humour glands of one or two list members.

    I'd still appreciate any information that may be available via this list and its other well-informed members.

    TIA,

    David C

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    It just so happens that each comment, relevant or not, keeps your thread near the top of the list, sorry about that.

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    BTW
    For all train enthusiasts.

    I read in the paper today concerning Dunkirk that there is a book out about the involvement of the railways in taking returning servicemen to their destinations, 600 trains in all.
    The book is called, Return from Dunkirk. By Peter Tatlow.

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    In case anyone else is interested, I have just received the following information from a fellow enthusiast from Preston whom I met in Hightown last week. He's just emailed me as follows:

    I think I have worked it out from 1960 and 1962 timetables.

    The 7:45 pm Fish from Law Junc (suspect this is marshalled from other Scottish locations) arrived at Preston 12:16 am and departed at 12:36 am for Manchester Oldham Road, this gave sufficient time to split the train at Preston and form a Liverpool portion which departed 1:0 am as per your timetable.

    The 1962 A & D book for Preston shows the same working, the Law Junc arrived 3M13 on platform 7 at Preston, the Liverpool Exchange train 3K22 departed from platform 6, this movement possibly due to brake van and /or loco requirements. There was a scissor crossover on these platforms for this kind of movement.

    Now all I need to find out is what stock made up this train . . .

    ATB,

    David C

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