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    Exclamation Unadopted Roads

    It's with relief I read the news that the Sefton Park road will finally get a decent repair soon. My little car was damaged recently as it was nearly swallowed by a massive hole.

    But it got me thinking, why are some roads unadopted like the Sefton Park one?


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    Hello Kev

    One unadopted road that I can remember was off Ullet Road running down toward Sefton Park and I can recall going past on the top deck of the 80 bus and feeling sorry for it!

    I imagine that the number of unadopted roads around Sefton Park must have something to do with the way the park was laid out.

    Found this on a Sunderland site, where they say they have around 250 such unadopted roads and mention a figure of 40,000 unadopted roads nationally---

    What is an unadopted road?

    Unadopted roads, often referred to as private roads, are roads that do not reach the minimum adoptable standards set by the local authority. As such, unadopted roads do not receive any maintenance by councils. Unadopted roads usually consist of a dirt or rubble-track that in many cases do not have basic services such as drainage and street lighting. Although referred to as private, many unadopted roads are also a public thoroughfare and therefore cannot be fenced off or obstructed.

    How and why does the problem of unadopted roads exist?

    It would appear that unadopted roads are a ‘legacy of the past’ something that just ‘came about’ over a period of time and several generations, in the days before planning regulations and Tarmac roads. The problem of unadopted roads continues to exist today because of disagreements between residents and local authorities over the financing of improvements. Many unadopted roads are also plagued by uncertainties/disputes regarding land ownership.


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    Cheers Chris, there's one off Jericho Lane that looks sorry for itself.
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    If nobodys got any photies then I'll try and get some (If I think on!!) when I'm down that way Friday.
    In fact if the weathers all Right T'morrer who Knows..
    Any Photie Requests down Sefton Park way..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    If nobodys got any photies then I'll try and get some (If I think on!!) when I'm down that way Friday.
    In fact if the weathers all Right T'morrer who Knows..
    Any Photie Requests down Sefton Park way..
    Any Photie requests of Anywhere Central and not too far North/South Liverpool just let me know and I'll see what I can do f' yer..

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    As many as u can please gerard. I don't know the location of them, apart from Jericho lane and a few off Wavertree High Street.
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    Would Gays be able to adopt roads?

    Sorry I could n't help myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Would Gays be able to adopt roads?

    Sorry I could n't help myself

    , only if the swear allegiance to the council

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    LoL
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    Arnold Grove where George Harrison was born in Wavertree is unadopted so is Albert Grove

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Would Gays be able to adopt roads?

    Sorry I could n't help myself
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    My road (on a new estate in Childwall) is unadopted even though it is cared for by the council and is now 14 years old. The builders who finished the houses went bust and didn't register the road - having checked numerous times, the road is still unadopted! This basically means that if I wanted to, I could drive up and down the road uninsured and no copper could pull me up - mind you I've done that many times while shifting my old XR2's around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    As many as u can please gerard. I don't know the location of them, apart from Jericho lane and a few off Wavertree High Street.
    "The location of them"..whats them exactly Kev and I'll get "them" for yer !!..
    Are yer on about Potholes on Wavertree High St !!..Whereabout off the High St if you know mate.
    And what part of Sefton Park Rd..Anywhere with Potholes do yer Lad or just the Culprit that nearly wrecked yer car !!..Where is it !!

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    I seem to remember that Hadassah Grove off Lark Lane is unadapted, at one time it was in a very poor state. The residents insisted that the Housing association (CDS) built a large brick wall so that they could not look upon the ''social houses'' being built for the Hesketh Street co op.
    Could be one to photograph,if your down that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    "The location of them"..whats them exactly Kev and I'll get "them" for yer !!..
    Are yer on about Potholes on Wavertree High St !!..Whereabout off the High St if you know mate.
    And what part of Sefton Park Rd..Anywhere with Potholes do yer Lad or just the Culprit that nearly wrecked yer car !!..Where is it !!
    So many questions Gerard, blimey . The road that circulates Sevvy Park (unadopted) is full of pot holes, I dodge 'em every night, those are the ones.

    I drive a pocket rocket, small and perfectly formed

    The unadopted Roads off Wavertree High Street, I don't know the names but I think they are cobbled and run next to the Picton Sports Centre.
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    Whitefield Road off Rice Lane, Walton is also unadopted but has been re-tarred recently. It's only a small cul de sac with no frontage but is signposed as being unadopted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    So many questions Gerard, blimey . The road that circulates Sevvy Park (unadopted) is full of pot holes, I dodge 'em every night, those are the ones.

    I drive a pocket rocket, small and perfectly formed

    The unadopted Roads off Wavertree High Street, I don't know the names but I think they are cobbled and run next to the Picton Sports Centre.
    Right..Im on the mission !!!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallasey View Post
    Whitefield Road off Rice Lane, Walton is also unadopted but has been re-tarred recently. It's only a small cul de sac with no frontage but is signposed as being unadopted
    I was going to say that.You'd think it would be adopted seeing as it leads to the rec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    I was going to say that.You'd think it would be adopted seeing as it leads to the rec.
    It's actually the only one I know of in Liverpool and is also the most memorable. Where I lived in Northumberland was a village called Whitfield (meaning white fields but had the "e" dropped for some reason") en-route to Wallasey, we alway's passed Whitefield Road which stuck in my mind over the years.

    Wallasey has an unadoped Road off Field Road which is unpaved but does have lighting.
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    Kev,heres yer pothole piccies.
    These few are of the Cobbled streets on the High St W/Tree.
    You can see a lot of Potholes have been filled in but the streets are in a terrible state and the Patchy/Crap tarmac refill effort just makes it worse.



















    These next few are at the Palm House end of Sefton park with the Palm house in the Distance.









    These are a Few Hundred yards further on after the Cave.






    Further on with Lark Lane in the distance.







    A few hundred yards past Lark lane looking back toward Lark Lane.



    The Exit leading to Aigburth Rd by Jericho Lane in the Distance.









    And this fella never had a clue what was going on !!
    Leave him ere Kev,,He's doin' no harm Lad.


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    The wonders of unadopted roads, thanks Gerard, the Sevvy Park pics show clearly the perils I face every day, the size of them holes!!!



    ^^Little buggers^^
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    By the looks of it, someones been round and painted lines around the pot-holes; this could mean that the road might get a few patches; having said that, they don't look fresh so I hope that I haven't gone and gotten your hopes up!
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    Those holes are big enough to swallow a Mini, get a Hummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    The wonders of unadopted roads, thanks Gerard, the Sevvy Park pics show clearly the perils I face every day, the size of them holes!!!



    ^^Little buggers^^

    Good to know we are getting good Value in Car Tax fees innit !!

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    ^^Just off Lark Lane^^




    ^^Off Jericho Lane^^
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    Otterspool Road leads down to the old (Otterspool) station that is inhabited by a taxi driver or repairer judging by the amount of black cabs dotted about the old station forecourt.

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    Great images Kev! Never knew Leda Grove existed; looks very nice indeed!

    Coincidentally, I was up by Whitfield Road yesterday and saw that it has lost it's "Unadopted" plate so I think that the council have brought it. Aplogies for not being able to post any images!
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    My gran used to live in Stockbridge Street L5 (off Breckfield Road North),and I'm sure I can remember a little street near there being unadopted. I remember feeling sorry for it whenever we walked passed it - I wondered why no-one wanted it (oh the naivety of youth!) Pretty sure it was Stockbridge Place but as I'm getting older the memories are fading!

    Can anyone confirm this - and prove I'm not going senile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScouseLad View Post
    but as I'm getting older the memories are fading!

    Can anyone confirm this - and prove I'm not going senile?

    Yes I can confirm this.
    Seems to prove we are though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    Yes I can confirm this.
    Seems to prove we are though.
    Hope you're not confiming that I'm going senile

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