ooohhh count me in!
Its not too far gone yet.......
LJMU's plans were very good and left the graves where they were. The refurbished/restored building had been planned to be the main ceremonial entrance into the Uni's 'Quad' area behind, so the green area of the graveyard is not needed as public green space and can be left as is. If you look at the white 'library' behind, it is planned with this in mind and the glazed central part of the elevation would act as the link between the 2 buildings. As the inside of the building is empty, the brick walls behind the sandstone facade could be rebuilt easily as there is nothing else of note while the sunday school on the opposite side is in OK condition as far as refurbs go.
Apart from Tom Slemen and Frank Carlisle and the growth of an urban myth does anyone know of any pre-80's sources of this story. I was watching a tv programme a couple of years ago (I wish I had noted the details) but the church was a long way from liverpool, down south I think and the local church had exactly the same story...i.e. bloke in tomb seated at table with hand of cards
But I think the story of MacKenzies tomb is even earlier than that.
There's no reason to believe that the story about somebody being buried sitting up is untrue - if you had the money, I'm sure there would have been no problems.
Last edited by PhilipG; 02-21-2007 at 09:02 AM.
I heard he was playing his cards close to his chest though.
The tomb break in of the 1970's still sounds a bit of hearsay if you ask me, that shoudl at elast be traceable thorugh the echo I would have thought. The church wasnt derelict then for a start off, did he have a rod up his back to make him sit up,otherwise it would ahve been more of a slump?
how did his hand keep hold of the cards (they didnt have staple guns then), etc etc, the cards would have been card or linen so they would well have rotten,
I think it s a great story, yeah its a great "story" but I'd file it under urban myth, i.e. made up embroidered, and then printed in one of TS's books...... thats enough for now Scully...
I call a spade a spade but surely in your heart of hearts you must know that as the skin on his fingers rotted away, so the cards would have fell to the floor or am I the only one in the sceptic club (sorry couldn't think of where diamond could fit in there even though the others are bad enough)
You're a diamond geezer Gerard mate. I can feel a Max Bygraves song coming on.....
when they opened the tomb did he throw his hand in, fold or twist or stick, I think Tom might know the answer....... it couldn have been texsas hold em as he'd lost his grip on life.... who you gonna call "Mythbusters"
Here's a picture of the pyramid I took from inside St. Andrew's the morning after the fire that gutted it- was it 1982? (May be a year or two out on that). Whatever, I remember it was pretty hairy in there- big holes in the floor and everything still hot!
Chester: a Virtual Stroll Around the Walls-
The Liverpool Gallery-
The Chester Shop
Chester & Liverpool Guided Walks
It is actually an ancient moondial containing the corpses of several cats.
It was built by ancient scouse druids, beards ago.
I doubt it chris! Or why would you tell me?? You just want me to open it and come out stinking of dead cats dont'cha!
Personally, I hope it is never opened at all. For all the mystery about it, it's still someone's grave - you wouldn't like it if it was one of your family no matter what the interest was.
I remember when we found Joseph Williamson's Grave and we were classed as gravediggers - even though were were only after the stone, we didn't lift it at all!
What year did he die ?...
have asked before, any idea the year McKenzie died.