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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    Politeness Eh !!!...Its called something else down Old Scottie Rd and its definately not Politeness....How does Brown Nosin' and Suckin' up grab yer.
    Blimy Gerard, what's got you riled today? I've always found Miss i very polite on the forum. Probably 95% of us haven't ever met each other but we get along very well as everyone contributes some really interesting articles/pictures and the like. What may be dear to someone's heart may not interest someone else - being polite costs nothing in my book and there's not enough of it about if you ask me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    Politeness Eh !!!...Its called something else down Old Scottie Rd and its definately not Politeness....How does Brown Nosin' and Suckin' up grab yer.
    Gerard - The forum rules encourage politeness as number 1. Lets keep posts and contributions positive .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Gerard - The forum rules encourage politeness as number 1. Lets keep posts and contributions positive .

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    I couldnt agree more..Now boot me out for saying this but Missinformed's comments were out of order..There was no need for any Any Smarminess and it definately was not Polite.
    And Now I cant answer Missinformed's sarcy latest answer "Forgive me if my Politeness offends you"...Suppose thats not Sarcastic Eh..Am I sacked now for telling the Truth...
    Why no little Pop at Missinformed by the way Kev for that Sarcy Remark..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jona76 View Post
    Blimy Gerard, what's got you riled today? I've always found Miss i very polite on the forum. Probably 95% of us haven't ever met each other but we get along very well as everyone contributes some really interesting articles/pictures and the like. What may be dear to someone's heart may not interest someone else - being polite costs nothing in my book and there's not enough of it about if you ask me.
    I couldnt Agree more Jona...I for one was brought up knowing how to treat people with respect and being Polite mate,Yer just cant buy good manners can yer lad.

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    phew..chill Gez Lad

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    phew..chill Gez Lad
    Yer alright FKoE.Well Chilled mate.

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    It's guiness time again ha ha ha........

    So was it James Mackenzie or William as PhilipG said?

    and what was it he was holding in his hand again ha ha....no, no ignore that last comment.

    (no applauses)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    It's guiness time again ha ha ha........

    So was it James Mackenzie or William as PhilipG said?

    and what was it he was holding in his hand again ha ha....no, no ignore that last comment.

    (no applauses)
    ..Now now Ged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    It's guiness time again ha ha ha........

    So was it James Mackenzie or William as PhilipG said?

    and what was it he was holding in his hand again ha ha....no, no ignore that last comment.

    (no applauses)
    Joseph Sharples says William.
    Tom Slemen says James (& alternates between 2 different spellings of the surname).
    Somebody else says James William.
    So choose from that lot.

    I'd rather believe Joseph Sharples.

    BTW - Guinness.
    Last edited by PhilipG; 01-31-2007 at 03:56 PM.

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    In "Liverpool 800" (2006), edited by John Belchem (p354), it says:
    (St Andrews Church) "...has recently been rescued through compulsory purchase".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    In "Liverpool 800" (2006), edited by John Belchem (p354), it says:
    (St Andrews Church) "...has recently been rescued through compulsory purchase".
    sorry to sound dumb, but what does compulsory purchase mean philip?
    As in rescued? Wish I had the cash to rescue it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post


    sorry to sound dumb, but what does compulsory purchase mean philip?
    As in rescued? Wish I had the cash to rescue it!

    It basically means that the Council want the land and rather than offering you a good wedge for it, they offer you a pittance for it and act like bouncers - literally turfing you out of the property before it is demolished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post


    sorry to sound dumb, but what does compulsory purchase mean philip?
    As in rescued? Wish I had the cash to rescue it!
    Hopefully, in this case, it means that the Council consider the site (church & grounds) too important to continue without anything being done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jona76 View Post
    It basically means that the Council want the land and rather than offering you a good wedge for it, they offer you a pittance for it and act like bouncers - literally turfing you out of the property before it is demolished.
    does this mean it will be demolished?
    I seriously would do everything I could to stop that!

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    Don't worry - that building is going on my 'Liverpool Buildings at Risk' website when I've got a mo. Why aren't there enough hours in the day!

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    Default An apology to Missinformed

    I would like to apologise to Missinformed for the way I spoke to Her Yesterday,I Dont normally talk to women like that and I wouldn't like anyone Talking to my Wife like that.It was out of order and its been playing on my mind.
    Sorry Girl and Good luck..
    And No..I haven't been on the Guinness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    I would like to apologise to Missinformed for the way I spoke to Her Yesterday,I Dont normally talk to women like that and I wouldn't like anyone Talking to my Wife like that.It was out of order and its been playing on my mind.
    Sorry Girl and Good luck..
    And No..I haven't been on the Guinness...
    I accept your apology Gerard, just want us all to get on on here

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    The lastest I heard was that legal proceedings were suspended as the owner stated he had sold the property to his father...the funny thing is his father has the same name, so this has confused the Councils' legal team.
    I'm not sure if it was concerned with a C.P.O. or an Urgent Works Notice. This was only recently, so some information may still be on the internet...Echo site, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    The lastest I heard was that legal proceedings were suspended as the owner stated he had sold the property to his father...the funny thing is his father has the same name, so this has confused the Councils' legal team.
    I'm not sure if it was concerned with a C.P.O. or an Urgent Works Notice. This was only recently, so some information may still be on the internet...Echo site, maybe.
    ooohhh that is well worth investigating. cheers marky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    I accept your apology Gerard, just want us all to get on on here
    Thank You Missinformed,

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    Here's a link the Liverpool Echo site...the owner knows all the delaying tactics.
    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    Here's a link the Liverpool Echo site...the owner knows all the delaying tactics.
    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html
    Thanks for that, Marky.
    It's all very interesting, but rather depressing.
    All it seems to say about each building is: "Nothing is going to happen at the moment".
    The Florrie for instance - work will not start until December.
    Why can't they put a roof on it? They've got enough money!
    At least a new roof was put on the Scandinavian Hotel.

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    Guys, has it ever been suggested that mckenzie and co, including pryramid, should be moved and reenterred, in a more suitable resting place? as previously stated i dont feel these tombs, will figure in developers plans, if / when the ball rolls, ps ,from another location i think this should be done for williamson to., or am i talking rubbish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIMON HARRISON View Post
    Guys, has it ever been suggested that mckenzie and co, including pryramid, should be moved and reenterred, in a more suitable resting place? as previously stated i dont feel these tombs, will figure in developers plans, if / when the ball rolls, ps ,from another location i think this should be done for williamson to., or am i talking rubbish?
    no i think you have a good point!
    We should have a big plot of land appointed for the final resting place of all of these wonderful characters of Liverpool's past!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    no i think you have a good point!
    We should have a big plot of land appointed for the final resting place of all of these wonderful characters of Liverpool's past!
    Dam right missy, or turn st andrews into some kind of heritage centre and rememberance garden, with the pyramid intact, as a legacy to all that lie there
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIMON HARRISON View Post
    Dam right missy, or turn st andrews into some kind of heritage centre and rememberance garden, with the pyramid intact, as a legacy to all that lie there
    Hello Simon

    I am at this time writing a Bicentennial History of the St. Andrew's Society of Baltimore, founded in 1806, so I am knee deep in Scotsmen in kilts. I should think there should be some interest among such Scottish societies in seeing that the chapel, garden, and graveyard, are restored and properly maintained.

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    Hiya Chris, would be great to see the place restored, however on close inspection, it just looks to far gone, get yer kilt on when your over and we can protest to the powers that be,dressed as highlanders
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIMON HARRISON View Post
    Hiya Chris, would be great to see the place restored, however on close inspection, it just looks to far gone, get yer kilt on when your over and we can protest to the powers that be,dressed as highlanders
    Hi Simon

    That's sad to hear about the poor state of the place. Aye Highland dress and Claymores appear called for!

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