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    Here are three images taken in the late fifties of an early Avro Vulcan on a test flight from her Woodford base showing her over Speke Airport, over Crosby, where you can clearly see the Wirral to the right of the pic and Liverpool to the left and over the Mersey itself. They are copyright BAe Systems and were taken from the excellent Vulcans in Camera


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    Is your avatar of the Vulcan parked outside Squires gate (Blackpool) Airport lar ?

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    Yeah, thats the one! Since removed, sadly...
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    Yeah I heard about that.. Did'nt someone buy it aiming to restore it ?

    Great Photies X mate

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    She was bought in 1983 by the Manchester Vulcan Bomber Society and there were plans to keep her airborne. The Civil Aviation Authority soon put paid to any plans for that and made it clear that no retired Vulcans wouldn't be flying without full manufacturer support (BAe) which was not forthcoming. She was then left to rot by until she became dangerous and the council ordered her destruction after the cowboy who owned her had flogged her on ebay. He always refused to do anything to look after her (a shame as she was a standby aircraft for the Falklands Campaign) and anyone trying to buy her, or even help look after her, were told, unceremoniously, to f**k off...

    To see the progress on a Vulcan that IS going to fly this year, click the link at the bottom of my posts.
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    Lovely looking planes too ... I never knew the Blackpool one was on standby for the Malvinas Its a bloody shame what happened to it aye..

    http://www.tvoc.co.uk/ Nice one

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    Lovely looking planes too ... I never knew the Blackpool one was on standby for the Malvinas Its a bloody shame what happened to it aye...
    About halfway down this page are some pictures of what happened to her.... I managed to save one of her engine covers though, it's enormous!! Also, she was actually shredded at Nortons on the Dock Road!! They knocked the cockpit and engines back because of radioactivity...
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    I've seen the Blackpol one, its on my hd somewhere..
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    It's a shame that rare planes like that are lost. It's hard to believe that of all the thousands of WW2 Lancasters, Wellingtons and Halifax bombers only one or two of each type survives.

    Still, it's great that there'll be one flying again soon - they've worked hard and it's paid off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    I've seen the Blackpol one, its on my hd somewhere..
    See if you can dig it out Kev
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    Quote Originally Posted by snappel View Post
    Still, it's great that there'll be one flying again soon - they've worked hard and it's paid off.
    Not long now, hopefully she'll be seen at Southport Airshow next year... (Take some earplugs!!)
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    XL391, brilliant post, and thanks for the great photographs,and
    Vulcans in Camera,site. Thanks to FKoE for the www.tvoc.co.uk site, really
    interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy View Post
    Thanks to FKoE for the www.tvoc.co.uk site, really interesting.
    Ah its the link X provided Jimmy in his footer .. good stuff aye

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    Quote Originally Posted by XL391 View Post
    About halfway down this page are some pictures of what happened to her.... I managed to save one of her engine covers though, it's enormous!! Also, she was actually shredded at Nortons on the Dock Road!! They knocked the cockpit and engines back because of radioactivity...
    Cheers XL mate.

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    Nae bother laaaa!!
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    If anyone wants to watch the return of the worlds (soon to be) only flying Vulcan Bomber, watch here. It will be getting very, very busy over the next couple of months with her first test flights in late March/early April.
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    Im pleased to say I contributed to the Vulcan to the skies project, will be well worth it when its up in the air again. Was luckily living in close proximity to the last of the Victors in late 80s/ early 90s, another fantastic plane of that era. They made such "futuristic" designs in the 50s!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzacat View Post
    Im pleased to say I contributed to the Vulcan to the skies project, will be well worth it when its up in the air again. Was luckily living in close proximity to the last of the Victors in late 80s/ early 90s, another fantastic plane of that era. They made such "futuristic" designs in the 50s!
    Looks abit stealthy too!

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    I just downloaded the History channel documentary about the Vulcan being restored, I am looking forward to viewing it later.
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    Just watched it, great show, if it comes back on TV it is well worth watching.
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    Default VULCAN BOMBER FLIES AGAIN!!! 18-10-2007


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    An amazing day, really did bring a tear to my eye when she popped up over the trees. Managed to make the other end for the overshoot and landing, only 150 feet above my head!! Still can't quite believe what i've seen... Did get one or two pics but for most of it I was just watching her, absolutely awestruck!! :P

    Congratulations to ALL involved, let's get her back over the Mersey!!

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    I recall these over Liverpool as a kid. Vapour trails everywhere and small white/silver "v" at the head of the trail. They were always quite high up, but still in view.

    I saw them in London in the Falklands war fly past. They were very low with Harriers around them. They never looked that impressive as I was looking from the top of a tower block with a side view. Side view is not that good. When they fly directly over, the big V shape is very impressive indeed, then you know that this was mean plane.

    There was one in Gibraltar as a door stop.
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    It really is fantastic to see the Vulcan in flight again, saw it at airshows doing displays and it was always a showstopper.

    I heard that when one made the famous bomb run down Mount Pleasant airfield in the Falklands, one of the conscripts said "Mother of God, if thats the size of their 'planes, how big is their aircraft carrier!"

    A piece of classic engineering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post
    It really is fantastic to see the Vulcan in flight again, saw it at airshows doing displays and it was always a showstopper.

    I heard that when one made the famous bomb run down Mount Pleasant airfield in the Falklands, one of the conscripts said "Mother of God, if thats the size of their 'planes, how big is their aircraft carrier!"

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    I was under the impression, could be wrong, that the Vulcans dropped their bombs from very high up when bombing the Falklands.
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    Sorry, I don't know what height the raid was carried out at, Waterways, the comment may well be anecdotal, but it does make me smile.
    Imagine how you'd feel seeing one of these beasts actually doing it's job! The conscripts didn't expect anything like that big noisy bat, it must have caused a few nightmares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post
    Sorry, I don't know what height the raid was carried out at, Waterways, the comment may well be anecdotal, but it does make me smile.
    Imagine how you'd feel seeing one of these beasts actually doing it's job! The conscripts didn't expect anything like that big noisy bat, it must have caused a few nightmares.
    The Brazilians allowed the British Nimrod and Canberra reccie planes to re-fuel. They had no love for the Argentinians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I was under the impression, could be wrong, that the Vulcans dropped their bombs from very high up when bombing the Falklands.
    For this raid, the Vulcan and the Victor tankers supporting her (all 11 of them), were ordered to fly as high as possible to save on fuel (60,000ft). To tank, as the RAF call it, they had to meet at approx 40,000 feet to fill the Vulcan from the fleet of Victors. To bomb the island, the Vulcan had to drop to around 500ft 100 miles away from the target to avoid Argentine Anti Aircraft guns and radar before pulling a steep climb to around 20,000ft to drop the bombs to give them the necessary velocity to penetrate the runway.
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    in 1977 we were travelling from Leeds to the east coast and in Lincolnshire we went past an airfield just as a squadron of vulcans were lining up for a sortie, took some photos but dont have the negs now....very impressive sight though

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    Quote Originally Posted by XL391 View Post
    For this raid, the Vulcan and the Victor tankers supporting her (all 11 of them), were ordered to fly as high as possible to save on fuel (60,000ft). To tank, as the RAF call it, they had to meet at approx 40,000 feet to fill the Vulcan from the fleet of Victors. To bomb the island, the Vulcan had to drop to around 500ft 100 miles away from the target to avoid Argentine Anti Aircraft guns and radar before pulling a steep climb to around 20,000ft to drop the bombs to give them the necessary velocity to penetrate the runway.
    The raid was more physiological than anything else. The Argentinians were aware that even the mainland was within range of heavy bombers too.
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